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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)
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I'm very pleased he's our Manager and I hope he's still here for next Season at least.clive said:6 -
You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......4
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You see, I read fans claiming Sandgaard is "pocketing" money and wonder just what planet they're on.
If you mean trying to reduce losses then yes, but if you think hes taking cash out of the heavily loss making football club we support then, with the greatest respect, you're fucking mad!29 -
If TS is pocketing money then he's not very good at it.supaclive said:You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......
How much has he lent Charlton so far?
£10 million+ isn't it?
He may be a clown, but that's not the same.8 -
I just said he's in his rights to. But he's also the one who has squandered millions on shit signings, analysed by his son and sacking managers!Which is why we want him out before there's nothing left to sell.We KNOW he's lost millions. We've done this hundreds of times ffs!6
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Covered End said:
If TS is pocketing money then he's not very good at it.supaclive said:You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......
How much has he lent Charlton so far?
£10 million+ isn't it?
He may be a clown, but that's not the same.
Agreed. It's why I cringe every time someone calls him skintgaard.8 -
So why suggest hes "pocketing" money then, if you know that isnt the case?supaclive said:I just said he's in his rights to. But he's also the one who has squandered millions on shit signings, analysed by his son and sacking managers!Which is why we want him out before there's nothing left to sell.We KNOW he's lost millions. We've done this hundreds of times ffs!11 -
I am not sure where the idea that any income is "the clubs" and any expenditure is "the owners" responsibility comes from but it absolutely does my nut in. Glad I am not the only one.Covered End said:
If TS is pocketing money then he's not very good at it.supaclive said:You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......
How much has he lent Charlton so far?
£10 million+ isn't it?
He may be a clown, but that's not the same.13 -
Are you ok?supaclive said:I just said he's in his rights to. But he's also the one who has squandered millions on shit signings, analysed by his son and sacking managers!Which is why we want him out before there's nothing left to sell.We KNOW he's lost millions. We've done this hundreds of times ffs!
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1) The sentence "As he's entitled to" I thought gave it away.But instead of re investing the transfer fees into improving a squad he's micro managed to shit levels he HAS pocketed the money!Despite being entitled to. It won't actually help his potential return on his terrible investment if this takeover doesn't go through.If he's so good we should have a whip round. Help him out. On the basis he keeps losing money on CAFC.......7
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BUT HE IS NOT "POCKETING" ANY MONEY!supaclive said:1) The sentence "As he's entitled to" I thought gave it away.But instead of re investing the transfer fees into improving a squad he's micro managed to shit levels he HAS pocketed the money!Despite being entitled to. It won't actually help his potential return on his terrible investment if this takeover doesn't go through.If he's so good we should have a whip round. Help him out. On the basis he keeps losing money on CAFC.......
I'm really not sure how else to say that.12 -
You've lost the plot.supaclive said:1) The sentence "As he's entitled to" I thought gave it away.But instead of re investing the transfer fees into improving a squad he's micro managed to shit levels he HAS pocketed the money!Despite being entitled to. It won't actually help his potential return on his terrible investment if this takeover doesn't go through.If he's so good we should have a whip round. Help him out. On the basis he keeps losing money on CAFC.......
Someone who spent millions on us is not pocketing money end of.8 -
If your very short on your house hold budget and get a £1000 gas bill and at the same time Grandpa Superclive bungs you £500 for Xmas, is paying half the gas bill pocketing the money?supaclive said:1) The sentence "As he's entitled to" I thought gave it away.But instead of re investing the transfer fees into improving a squad he's micro managed to shit levels he HAS pocketed the money!Despite being entitled to. It won't actually help his potential return on his terrible investment if this takeover doesn't go through.If he's so good we should have a whip round. Help him out. On the basis he keeps losing money on CAFC.......
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I hear you all. He is within his right to use windfalls and transfer fees to recoup his significant investment but if he continues to do that there is only one way this club is going.His total mismanagement of the club is on him though. The losses are exaggerated by his actions are they not.
You all would like a new owner with the ambition and resources to try and get us out of this shit league?
Nobody can make money on Charlton in this division.
I can't see why you're all going mental about my statement.
We need him out and replaced by somebody better and soon.2 -
Few would disagree with this statement.supaclive said:I hear you all. He is within his right to use windfalls and transfer fees to recoup his significant investment but if he continues to do that there is only one way this club is going.His total mismanagement of the club is on him though. The losses are exaggerated by his actions are they not.
You all would like a new owner with the ambition and resources to try and get us out of this shit league?
Nobody can make money on Charlton in this division.
I can't see why you're all going mental about my statement.
We need him out and replaced by somebody better and soon.2 -
But this is a Sandgaard window. If I was buying the club there’s no way I’d be shelling out on players unless the deal was done, particularly if there was practically zero chance of promotion.supaclive said:You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......Not saying there’s billionaire action behind the scenes btw. At least whoever it is has maintained radio silence, which I take as a good sign. But it could still easily be yet another disastrous change of ownership.6 -
All the chaos on deadline day I missed this one.19
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Cut the squad by 3 ….. 5 in 8 outsupaclive said:You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......2 -
Why would anyone buy players when selling?supaclive said:You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......You can only pocket a profit not a loss
If he was going to make money in the window why did he not sell Leaburn, CBT, Dobbo or Ness?We have heard that our manager wanted a smaller squad - or are they all lying? If so, why?
How do you know he does not have any money to spend - he is rich. He may not choose to spend it but that is different.
Why make a statement making it sound like you know something as fact when it is just your take on things?2 -
As I've said if you sell Leaburn for say £2m you can't claim to potential buyers that his actual balance sheet and cash value to CAFC is £5m.....Which is why CAFC is worth £7m + for 80% (or is ot 90%)Leaburn, Ness and Dobson's highest value is in the sales and marketing information - not what their real transfer fee is. Pretty sure of that having looked at many information memorandums in my time.1
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So would you say that over the window he has made the Club more attractive to a buyer?supaclive said:As I've said if you sell Leaburn for say £2m you can't claim to potential buyers that his actual balance sheet and cash value to CAFC is £5m.....Which is why CAFC is worth £7m + for 80% (or is ot 90%)Leaburn, Ness and Dobson's highest value is in the sales and marketing information - not what their real transfer fee is. Pretty sure of that having looked at many information memorandums in my time.
Have you considered that maybe that has been his intention all along?
Let’s see how he goes with signing up the three youngsters that were mentioned. I bet he gets at least two to sign. That should be a plus on the spreadsheet as well.0 -
To be fair, I don't see anyone at all 'going mental' about your statement. Just pointing out that your accusation of 'Pocketing'supaclive said:I hear you all. He is within his right to use windfalls and transfer fees to recoup his significant investment but if he continues to do that there is only one way this club is going.His total mismanagement of the club is on him though. The losses are exaggerated by his actions are they not.
You all would like a new owner with the ambition and resources to try and get us out of this shit league?
Nobody can make money on Charlton in this division.
I can't see why you're all going mental about my statement.
We need him out and replaced by somebody better and soon.
seems way off the mark, under the circumstances.
Obviously the wish to replace him with somebody better equipped to run our football club is a given.1 -
Precisely that.Major said:
To be fair, I don't see anyone at all 'going mental' about your statement. Just pointing out that your accusation of 'Pocketing'supaclive said:I hear you all. He is within his right to use windfalls and transfer fees to recoup his significant investment but if he continues to do that there is only one way this club is going.His total mismanagement of the club is on him though. The losses are exaggerated by his actions are they not.
You all would like a new owner with the ambition and resources to try and get us out of this shit league?
Nobody can make money on Charlton in this division.
I can't see why you're all going mental about my statement.
We need him out and replaced by somebody better and soon.
seems way off the mark, under the circumstances.
Obviously the wish to replace him with somebody better equipped to run our football club is a given.
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The term skintgaard is a tongue in cheek way of emphasising he is not wealthy enough to fund the yearly losses Charlton Athletic runs up.Athletico Charlton said:Covered End said:
If TS is pocketing money then he's not very good at it.supaclive said:You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......
How much has he lent Charlton so far?
£10 million+ isn't it?
He may be a clown, but that's not the same.
Agreed. It's why I cringe every time someone calls him skintgaard.
The question that raises is why did he ever think he had that kind of wealth.
He must have known it would take 6 to 8 million pounds a year from his own pocket to runthe club.0 -
statements in here that ts will pocket the transfer fees received. How likely is it that these fees will be in instalments? If so, how much will ts 'pocket'
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Why indeed. But I think we have to take into account the collapse of the Zynex share price, which reduced his estimated wealth drastically (was it 60%?} about 18 months ago. I think he went into panic mode at that time.msomerton said:
The term skintgaard is a tongue in cheek way of emphasising he is not wealthy enough to fund the yearly losses Charlton Athletic runs up.Athletico Charlton said:Covered End said:
If TS is pocketing money then he's not very good at it.supaclive said:You can't be seriously asking that?We didn't spend a penny on transfer feesAnd cut the squad by 5 or 6 players netAnd the £600k pocketed on Stockley and O'Connell plus the Man U gate receipts will be pocketed by Sandgaard.Albeit he is within his right to.But definitely there is no money available to be spent by our current owner.He (allegedly) hasn't even paid the rent......
How much has he lent Charlton so far?
£10 million+ isn't it?
He may be a clown, but that's not the same.
Agreed. It's why I cringe every time someone calls him skintgaard.
The question that raises is why did he ever think he had that kind of wealth.
He must have known it would take 6 to 8 million pounds a year from his own pocket to runthe club.1 -
Hard not to like Holden after that interview. Not sure he's telling the absolute truth about the January window, but i really hope he & Andy Scott are still here for the summer rebuild.clive said:3 -
Club is full of liars and chancers, I just hope one day we get an owner that runs the club properly and doesn't see us as a way to make a quick couple of quid or for some vanity project.
How has anyone deemed that window anything but negative. I keep seeing 'we got all the dead wood out' we haven't! They'll be straight back next year and we are back where we are now.. had we got them off the wages and recruited improvements and went for a promotion push, then fair enough, but no, we have loaned out a ton of players we paid fees for and haven't replaced them adequately.
McG was good business, so was Stockley. EoC, shocking. Hands down our best centre back and sold for a measly 350k. The only senior centre back who looked like he could improve. Selling him to Wrexham is genuinely embarrassing and should be raising alarms, our vice captain has willingly dropped to non league instead of staying with us. Jesus Christ.
Abysmal being a Charlton fan atm, yes men everywhere just getting an easy salary from us, a load of crap players. One of the worst run clubs in league 1, have to be
Steve Gallen is one of the biggest frauds going, terrible track record for signings10 -
Any window that has made us a better side is a good one. This looks like it has been.Braziliance said:Club is full of liars and chancers, I just hope one day we get an owner that runs the club properly and doesn't see us as a way to make a quick couple of quid or for some vanity project.
How has anyone deemed that window anything but negative. I keep seeing 'we got all the dead wood out' we haven't! They'll be straight back next year and we are back where we are now.. had we got them off the wages and recruited improvements and went for a promotion push, then fair enough, but no, we have loaned out a ton of players we paid fees for and haven't replaced them adequately.
McG was good business, so was Stockley. EoC, shocking. Hands down our best centre back and sold for a measly 350k. The only senior centre back who looked like he could improve. Selling him to Wrexham is genuinely embarrassing and should be raising alarms, our vice captain has willingly dropped to non league instead of staying with us. Jesus Christ.
Abysmal being a Charlton fan atm, yes men everywhere just getting an easy salary from us, a load of crap players. One of the worst run clubs in league 1, have to be
Steve Gallen is one of the biggest frauds going, terrible track record for signings0 -
Gutting we missed out on this fella, could have brought a lot of joy and happiness to the dressing room.
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