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Dean Holden - Jan 2025: joined the coaching staff at Adana Demispor in Turkey (p47)
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no approach from Oxford for holden -reeks of a desperate agent, knows Holdens stock is plummeting as each week goes by so is desperate to drum up some interest5
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If I was him I think I would be on my toes. Basket case of an owner, as it stands at the moment he can't make any plans for next season to bring in players, no contract talks for the last two weeks giving him and his family no security, if and when there is a take over he will no doubt get the boot as he wouldn't be their choice.2
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If he's got that from Sandgaard then we probably have.MarcusH26 said:9 -
Same, Adkins, Jackson, Garner, Holden... doesn't matter who the manager is, they're not properly backed and so won't do that well. Same with the next guy, and the next....DDOUBLEE said:It's got to the stage where I just don't care whether he stays or goes2 -
No manager is ever going to succeed under this ownership so I really can't blame DH for looking for long term security for him and his family.9
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Methven has some kind of an entree to Oxford, and he was an influence on Holden coming to Charlton.
The degrees of separation are not huge.2 -
More bollocks and poor journalism
The Addicks were in talks with the ex-Bristol City boss regarding fresh terms after Queens Park Rangers made an approach for him last monthfollowing Neil Critchley’s sacking, though the Championship outfit eventually opted to appoint Gareth Ainsworth.QPR never made an approach for Holden …4 -
Piles more pressure on Sandgaard so I'm all for it. Good luck Dean4
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What pressure?carly burn said:Piles more pressure on Sandgaard so I'm all for it. Good luck Dean
Like Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Garner and now Holden. Without backing they will perform for 5 games and then be ground down by our poor squad.
Who our manager is doesn't matter right now. I could set us up to lose every game without a shot on target.2 -
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His stock isn’t high enough to get better than us, I’m sure he’s applying for other jobs but I can’t see him leaving of his own accord. Based on his career and record, mid-table league 1 is his level at the moment. New owners will want their own man so I can only see Holden staying if a takeover doesn’t happen but even managing a low-budget charlton in league 1 is probably the best job he’s going to be able to getWhenIwasLittleBoy said:If I was him I think I would be on my toes. Basket case of an owner, as it stands at the moment he can't make any plans for next season to bring in players, no contract talks for the last two weeks giving him and his family no security, if and when there is a take over he will no doubt get the boot as he wouldn't be their choice.0 -
If Holden should decide to leave (which I hope he doesn’t) for the life of me I cannot see managerial candidates queuing up Charlton Church Lane to put their CV’s inNabySarr said:
His stock isn’t high enough to get better than us, I’m sure he’s applying for other jobs but I can’t see him leaving of his own accord. Based on his career and record, mid-table league 1 is his level at the moment. New owners will want their own man so I can only see Holden staying if a takeover doesn’t happen but even managing a low-budget charlton in league 1 is probably the best job he’s going to be able to getWhenIwasLittleBoy said:If I was him I think I would be on my toes. Basket case of an owner, as it stands at the moment he can't make any plans for next season to bring in players, no contract talks for the last two weeks giving him and his family no security, if and when there is a take over he will no doubt get the boot as he wouldn't be their choice.0 -
They'll always be a lot of people after any managerial job I'm League football.
Whether the quality of them would be any good, however....0 -
There's alot of ex managers unemployed. Daily Fail reported that Oxford had 130 applications.
Sol Campbell backing himself.0 -
Has he really got piles…….if so that would put pressure on anyone.🤭carly burn said:Piles more pressure on Sandgaard so I'm all for it. Good luck Dean2 -
How many managers have we had over TS' reign? This is laughing stock material. I think we get relegated next season to League Two if we don't change ownership soon.
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Exactly right and I was told by somebody last week that he applied for a league 2 managers job - that job is now filled - don’t blame him at all in the circumstancesWhenIwasLittleBoy said:If I was him I think I would be on my toes. Basket case of an owner, as it stands at the moment he can't make any plans for next season to bring in players, no contract talks for the last two weeks giving him and his family no security, if and when there is a take over he will no doubt get the boot as he wouldn't be their choice.0 -
Not including Caretaker Managers... Five, from Bowyer 2021 to Holden 2023NapaAddick said:How many managers have we had over TS' reign? This is laughing stock material. I think we get relegated next season to League Two if we don't change ownership soon.
We had nine Managers under Roland from Chris Powell in 2014, to Bowyer in September 2018.0 -
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Not including Caretaker Managers... Five, from Bowyer 2021 to Holden 2023NapaAddick said:How many managers have we had over TS' reign? This is laughing stock material. I think we get relegated next season to League Two if we don't change ownership soon.
We had nine Managers under Roland from Chris Powell in 2014, to Bowyer in September 2018.It's truly crazy how different everything is now to the start. When TS came in he behaved relatively rationally. You could argue he allowed Bowyer to stay beyond the point where he'd become a bit toxic and a lot of chairmen would have sacked him well before even that point. Even then Bowyer left for a job a division higher rather than getting sacked. He then held onto Adkins for longer than most would have and you felt he didn't really want to be the kind of chairman who just chucked people; he hired the kindest (well, externally facing anyway) manager going to offset the Bowyer effect. Then he kept on Jackson despite not really wanting him because of fan support and good results. All went downhill from there really. Jackson and senior players not renewed - though I also wasn't convinced by Jacko as manager as much as I love him - in odd ways, Garner unsupported and then sacked for pointing out that fact, key non-footballing personnel like Olly removed in horrible ways and now the current fiasco.I do look back on that first stupid wage cap transfer window and wonder if things could have been different if we'd been able to actually put together more of a squad. Decentish leftover players from the Championship who hadn't given up yet with some new additions of better quality and we might have been alright with the momentum we had, and then there's a chance TS doesn't lose interest so suddenly and spectacularly bin it all. I mean, he ultimately would have, but it might have happened in a higher division and we might have been a more attractive prospect to new investment.7 -
I was told by somebody last week he represented a Nigerian prince, don't make it true.DOUCHER said:
Exactly right and I was told by somebody last week that he applied for a league 2 managers job - that job is now filled - don’t blame him at all in the circumstancesWhenIwasLittleBoy said:If I was him I think I would be on my toes. Basket case of an owner, as it stands at the moment he can't make any plans for next season to bring in players, no contract talks for the last two weeks giving him and his family no security, if and when there is a take over he will no doubt get the boot as he wouldn't be their choice.
Holden seems like a decent bloke and he was making a better fist of this crappy squad than Garner before him but Charlton's success beyond tonight's game ain't a priority for him is it?
Cawley's soundbite "... no approach from Oxford" is true I'm sure. My money's on that should read "...no approach from Oxford - YET"
Oxford or anyotherclub won't "approach" Skintgaard, or whichever bloated leach is working for him, to sort out compo until they're sure Holden's accepting the job.
In flagrant breach of the supposed rules, players and managers alike are routinely tapped up for transfers and job offers. Football has this childish nonsense about contracts and employees being prohibited from sorting out their own working future, when everybody knows they're all at it and rightly so, their jobs are no different from we mortals.
Holden will go with full respect and best wishes for putting in a shift. His hands are hopelessly tied in this thankless job and he owes it to himself to get the next job available.
Can't bring myself to imagine what skill and experience his successor will have, presuming that skintgaard and storrie will be recruiting them.1 -
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He was until mid January which was how long ago now?Billy_Mix said:
I was told by somebody last week he represented a Nigerian prince, don't make it true.DOUCHER said:
Exactly right and I was told by somebody last week that he applied for a league 2 managers job - that job is now filled - don’t blame him at all in the circumstancesWhenIwasLittleBoy said:If I was him I think I would be on my toes. Basket case of an owner, as it stands at the moment he can't make any plans for next season to bring in players, no contract talks for the last two weeks giving him and his family no security, if and when there is a take over he will no doubt get the boot as he wouldn't be their choice.
Holden seems like a decent bloke and he was making a better fist of this crappy squad than Garner before him but Charlton's success beyond tonight's game ain't a priority for him is it?
Cawley's soundbite "... no approach from Oxford" is true I'm sure. My money's on that should read "...no approach from Oxford - YET"
Oxford or anyotherclub won't "approach" Skintgaard, or whichever bloated leach is working for him, to sort out compo until they're sure Holden's accepting the job.
In flagrant breach of the supposed rules, players and managers alike are routinely tapped up for transfers and job offers. Football has this childish nonsense about contracts and employees being prohibited from sorting out their own working future, when everybody knows they're all at it and rightly so, their jobs are no different from we mortals.
Holden will go with full respect and best wishes for putting in a shift. His hands are hopelessly tied in this thankless job and he owes it to himself to get the next job available.
Can't bring myself to imagine what skill and experience his successor will have, presuming that skintgaard and storrie will be recruiting them.
It's clear his agent is going around sticking Holden's name against any vacant club in the hope one of them get desperate and actually interview him for the role. The QPR 'leak' that they were going for Holden literally hours before they hired Ainsworth should have made this obvious by now.0 -
Under Wilder, Middlesbrough took 10 points from 11 games this season and in danger of relegation. Under Carrick, they've taken 43 points from 19 games, are 3rd and in with a chance, on current form, of automatic promotion. Carrick has certainly turned things around with the main success being that of getting the most out of Akpom with 18 of the 48 goals scored by Middlesbrough in that period.eaststandmike said:
Carrick has hardly transformed the team, not yet anyway. Wilder got off to a great start at Boro so Carrick has a way to gokillerandflash said:If we got a new and decent owner, then Chris Wilder wouldn't be an unrealistic target, as his stock has fallen since a poor spell at Boro, where Michael Carrick has transformed the team since taking over0 -
100%, I said that a while ago however the run they are on is superb. They are my tip to go up via the playoffsAddick Addict said:
Under Wilder, Middlesbrough took 10 points from 11 games this season and in danger of relegation. Under Carrick, they've taken 43 points from 19 games, are 3rd and in with a chance, on current form, of automatic promotion. Carrick has certainly turned things around with the main success being that of getting the most out of Akpom with 18 of the 48 goals scored by Middlesbrough in that period.eaststandmike said:
Carrick has hardly transformed the team, not yet anyway. Wilder got off to a great start at Boro so Carrick has a way to gokillerandflash said:If we got a new and decent owner, then Chris Wilder wouldn't be an unrealistic target, as his stock has fallen since a poor spell at Boro, where Michael Carrick has transformed the team since taking over0 -
It's to early to tell how he will do he needs time & money to build a team to get us up
It's not going to be cheap as to get us up we need at least 6 Championship quality player's
Which means a huge clear out will he get the backing & the money not so sure myself0 -
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Here’s the link if anyone wants the whole thing londonnewsonline.co.uk/dean-holden-set-to-sign-contract-extension-at-charlton-athletic/shirty5 said:2 -
Holden seems to have something about him, although it will be very interesting to see what results he gets out of the players now our season has finished. This will be a true test of the guy's abilities.shirty5 said:8 -
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Great news. He gets us.0
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Meh.
I'll give him another year but can't say what I've seen on the pitch has been good.
The constant 'he gets us' while we lose to Accrington, Cambridge and Morecambe will be tiresome.17
