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POST-MATCH THREAD: Ipswich Town vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 15th April 2023 | KO 3.00PM

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  • charltonman2016
    charltonman2016 Posts: 1,118
    How people rate/defend Inniss is embarrassing. He is a woeful player
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,150
    How many times does a team score 10 goals against you in the two games you meet in a season.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    cafc_4life said:
    DDOUBLEE said:
    cafc_4life said:
    Watching Charlton players smile and laugh with Ipswich players at the end. God I hate everything about this club 
    Haha surely not? Who?
    Camera zoomed in on Fraser laughing with an Ipswich player 
    They were team mates together last season, remember.


  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    Leuth said:
    Chunes said:
    Leuth said:
    TellyTubby said:
    Tbf I didn't watch or even listen, but can I say 'fuck off innis'?
    It sounds like Hector was responsible for about 4 goals but Inniss has somehow stolen the fanbase's anger. He's cursed 
    Hector was rubbish today.

    Innis has the worst disciplinary record in the top four leagues of English football.* Double anyone else.

    Red Cards

    Innis - 4
    Casemiro - 2
    Kamara - 2
    Osho - 2
    Platt - 2
    Khan - 2

    * Presume it is much worse than that, but can't find individual stats for National League and below. But note that no team in the National League has above four cards as an entire squad, while Innis has four to himself.
    Of which one was rescinded! And c'mon, it's part of the charm. Vieira and Keane! 

    Ahhh ehhh whatever. Bet Holden puts him straight back in the side when he's available 
    I wouldn’t mind if Innis had a fingernail of the talent Keane and Viera had.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    Inniss getting better at being sent off...
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited April 2023
    ct_addick said:
    Can see why we lost…if I were Holden I would be seething but he’s blasé about the game…worrying
    We don’t know what was said in the dressing room after the match or whether he’ll sleep on it and rip into them when they turn up for training. We know from the Oxford game that he can lose his sh1t when he needs to. His demeanour for the post match interview was just for the camera I reckon preferring not to call out players in public 😉.
  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,565
    msomerton said:
     Now the owners know the kind of money they have to spend to get a good side.
    They didn't get the idea after the 4-0 last year
  • MikeBaileysFanClub
    MikeBaileysFanClub Posts: 309
    For Pete's sake - 3-0 down - not a hope in hell of getting back into it -PARK THE BLOODY BUS !!!!
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,406
    A wake-up call after a few good results which shows how far off being serious promotion contenders this side is

  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,280
    The no dickheads rule means Innis will be gone in the summer.
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    Athletico Charlton said:
    The no dickheads rule means Innis will be gone in the summer.
    Why would Holden instruct the armband to be passed to someone he considered a dickhead every time Dobson went off? 
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    Innis got away with one senseless forearm smash at Oxford away if I recall too. 
  • Bods64
    Bods64 Posts: 473
    I like the way Inniss does the arm out “pointy” thing, directing the game from a distance like he reads the game so perfectly! Please take a permanent leave of absence. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Leuth said:
    Athletico Charlton said:
    The no dickheads rule means Innis will be gone in the summer.
    Why would Holden instruct the armband to be passed to someone he considered a dickhead every time Dobson went off? 
    You mean in the matches when Innis is still on the pitch at that point?
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    edited April 2023
    He does seem to get sent off when the chips are down I've noticed. Can't mentally apply himself against lads running rings and probably provided a few verbals is my guess why!?
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,153
    45 lifers predicted us to lose today. The squad simply isn't good enough. We were never going to run a team close that's top of the league, at home, and needs the points. It was depressing, but we know no more now than we did before... there are too many sub-standard players in the squad, not enough who will stand up and be counted. I'm not blaming Holden for today as it's hard to see what else he could do with that lot. But unless we have a major squad overhaul we'll have another season of this. Incredible that we're not challenging the top teams since we improved our squad so much after last year's debacle by spending... err... nothing. 

    As for the 2 lifers who predicted us not to lose... full marks for optimism...
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    Bods64 said:
    I like the way Inniss does the arm out “pointy” thing, directing the game from a distance like he reads the game so perfectly! Please take a permanent leave of absence. 
    He’s not directing the game. He is pointing out his next victims.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    At least I had a bit of fun jogging back to the station through Ipswich fans wearing Charlton hoodie crying "Let me out of here. I wanna go home". 

    Sat at far end of train to Norwich and kept out of the way. 

    Kin ell. 10 goals against in 2 visits. 


  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    1StevieG said:
    Bods64 said:
    I like the way Inniss does the arm out “pointy” thing, directing the game from a distance like he reads the game so perfectly! Please take a permanent leave of absence. 
    He’s not directing the game. He is pointing out his next victims.
    Everyone likes to call him a psycho or whatever but none of his reds this season have been for violent conduct or serious foul play 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,602
    Athletico Charlton said:
    The no dickheads rule means Innis will be gone in the summer.
    Hope that rule doesn’t include fans or I’ll be looking for a new club. Although thinking about it, that might not be a bad thing.
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  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,409
    msomerton said:
     Now the owners know the kind of money they have to spend to get a good side.
    If only it would be that easy.

    We have to wake up really quickly or things will only get worse. 

    Sandgaard and who ever is discussing taking over this is not the time to think money.
    You will not have enough to put our club back together again.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    Nice to have an easy target sponge for the fans' ire though. That's what you get for not hiding. Unlike, it seems, quite a few of the others 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    Leuth said:
    Nice to have an easy target sponge for the fans' ire though. That's what you get for not hiding. Unlike, it seems, quite a few of the others 
    Hiding for the next game or two by getting sent off is worse no? 
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    Special mention for Hector. For years I had rated Miguel Llera away at Colchester in a 3-0 defeat the worst performance I had ever seen from a CAFC central defender. Hector has trumped him. He looked like he was on smack for most of today.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,137
    There was a humiliating gulf in class between the teams, both in and out of possession. We were wobbly and panic-stricken at the back and the lack of pace, athleticism and game management of Fraser and Morgan in midfield were brutally exposed by Morsy and his colleagues.

    Ipswich were a couple of yards faster and much, much sharper than us. We afforded them acres of space in midfield, barely won a 50/50 all afternoon and let them cut through us like a hot knife through butter. To compound matters, we repeatedly conceded possession unnecessarily and could barely string two passes together all afternoon. Apart from Bonne’s header and Fraser’s shot in the first half, we didn’t threaten their goal all afternoon, failing to muster a single attempt in the second half.

    Curbs and Brownie were, quite rightly, scathing in their analysis. It was a pretty disgraceful and spineless performance and I feel for the supporters who spent good money to traipse up to Ipswich to watch that rubbish. I’d be quite happy never to see a number of those players in a Charlton shirt again.
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,448


    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-boss-dean-holden-admits-that-6-0-humiliation-at-portman-road-shows-how-large-gulf-is-to-top-league-one-sides/
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    out played, out thought, out skilled, worst of all out fought which is not acceptable i m o
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Ipswich started the game with more intensity, positivity and quality. We did get more into it and to be fair at 2-nil that was a definite penalty which may have changed things. Defence were awful, especially Hector unusually. 2nd ball useless as always. Is it overall fitness levels? Something is wrong in relation to this aspect of our game. Even against poor teams.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Blucher said:
    There was a humiliating gulf in class between the teams, both in and out of possession. We were wobbly and panic-stricken at the back and the lack of pace, athleticism and game management of Fraser and Morgan in midfield were brutally exposed by Morsy and his colleagues.

    Ipswich were a couple of yards faster and much, much sharper than us. We afforded them acres of space in midfield, barely won a 50/50 all afternoon and let them cut through us like a hot knife through butter. To compound matters, we repeatedly conceded possession unnecessarily and could barely string two passes together all afternoon. Apart from Bonne’s header and Fraser’s shot in the first half, we didn’t threaten their goal all afternoon, failing to muster a single attempt in the second half.

    Curbs and Brownie were, quite rightly, scathing in their analysis. It was a pretty disgraceful and spineless performance and I feel for the supporters who spent good money to traipse up to Ipswich to watch that rubbish. I’d be quite happy never to see a number of those players in a Charlton shirt again.
    What’s your views on Dobson’s pace and athleticism? Seems that sometimes he is beyond criticism from Charlton fans when for me today he was just as culpable - especially as those aspects you mentioned are the weakest part of his game. 

    To be honest I think it’s pretty obvious Morsy and Luongo have far to much quality for this league - but as two players playing as CDM’s look at their ability to drive forwards with and without the ball - we just don’t have that. 
  • BartramBlitz
    BartramBlitz Posts: 675
    edited April 2023
    Clem that was just what I thought. I gave Hector a 1 on the players marks. Innis was crap but Hector never even reached crap. He was just like a Sunday League player who got smashed on a Saturday night and woke up at half time in the middle of the match. I wonder if he has a new club lined up so can't be arsed anymore.

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