Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)

soapboxsam said:

Taylor is out of work as he got expelled from big school. Interesting that he is training in a facility in Crewe with two other players who are out of contract as well.

He is talking the talk as he has always done.
I Find it hard to believe that a League 1 club wouldn't offer him a one year contract at 33.
Not Charlton as that bridge has been burnt.

I really don’t find it hard to believe. He’s barely kicked a ball for two years, is bound to be out of shape and everyone in the industry knows he’s a Cnut. 

cafcfan1990 said:

I don’t blame him for playing international football. Imagine if England players turned down call ups because it’s the club games that pay their salary. I know that’s truth and the English comparison isn’t like for like, but an injury can happen at any point. Not defending what he did, but playing for Montserrat didn’t directly influence his decision. 

Playing for Monserrat, on an awful pitch, lacking medical facilities and staff, getting injured for months, returning via a train to Ebbsfleet......seems a bit more than an indirect influence on his decision, which came about as an outcome of the above.

cafcfan1990 said:

mendonca said:

cafcfan1990 said:

I don’t blame him for playing international football. Imagine if England players turned down call ups because it’s the club games that pay their salary. I know that’s truth and the English comparison isn’t like for like, but an injury can happen at any point. Not defending what he did, but playing for Montserrat didn’t directly influence his decision. 

Playing for Monserrat, on an awful pitch, lacking medical facilities and staff, getting injured for months, returning via a train to Ebbsfleet......seems a bit more than an indirect influence on his decision, which came about as an outcome of the above.

I disagree, the injury had no impact. Taylor would still have refused to play because he wanted to leave. 

But he stated that the main driver was being unsure about his fitness, due to the injury.

Callumcafc said:

https://twitter.com/5livesport/status/1688982354579103745?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g

Bowyer
"We fell a little bit short and that's cos Lyle's chosent to be a prick, but ended up doing well financially out of it"

soapboxsam said:

"I was selfish"  

Lyle said ACL ? He wasn't out long enough to be an ACL knee injury 🤷🏻‍♂️

LCL, the lateral cruciate ligament. It was a strain not a clean snap so he's just trying to make it sound worse. 

mendonca said:

- His face shows that he is lying when talking about the pain he was in "being rolled on and off"...look at how much of an exaggerated face he pulls.

- "Deconditioned through not training or playing". Isn't this normal while injured? You were fulfilling your international dreams playing with people of a non league standard.

- Such a shame Bowyer couldn't give Taylor the Dyer/J Williams treatment.

definitely; he's tried to convince himself but knows it isn't true

cafcfan1990 said:

mendonca said:

cafcfan1990 said:

mendonca said:

cafcfan1990 said:

I don’t blame him for playing international football. Imagine if England players turned down call ups because it’s the club games that pay their salary. I know that’s truth and the English comparison isn’t like for like, but an injury can happen at any point. Not defending what he did, but playing for Montserrat didn’t directly influence his decision. 

Playing for Monserrat, on an awful pitch, lacking medical facilities and staff, getting injured for months, returning via a train to Ebbsfleet......seems a bit more than an indirect influence on his decision, which came about as an outcome of the above.

I disagree, the injury had no impact. Taylor would still have refused to play because he wanted to leave. 

But he stated that the main driver was being unsure about his fitness, due to the injury.

I know he did, and I'm 99% sure that's rubbish, he just doesn't want to admit he was greedy. Regardless, the injury was several months before. In fact, IMO it makes it worse because he has admitted he was barely training. So in fact that reduces the risk of injury. Even 5 games is what around 8 hours of football? 

He said in that interview "another transfer was blocked in January". The bloke wanted out and didn't want to get injured playing for a club he was going to leave so he let the club and his teammates down.

EDIT - less than hour and ago you stated he was lying and exaggerating about the injury? Now you're saying the injury was the reason?

I don't disagree with much that you've posted. Regarding the final point, I was summarising my views in the post with bullet points, but referenced Taylor's statement in the latter post. 

mendonca said:

cafcfan1990 said:

mendonca said:

cafcfan1990 said:

mendonca said:

cafcfan1990 said:

I don’t blame him for playing international football. Imagine if England players turned down call ups because it’s the club games that pay their salary. I know that’s truth and the English comparison isn’t like for like, but an injury can happen at any point. Not defending what he did, but playing for Montserrat didn’t directly influence his decision. 

Playing for Monserrat, on an awful pitch, lacking medical facilities and staff, getting injured for months, returning via a train to Ebbsfleet......seems a bit more than an indirect influence on his decision, which came about as an outcome of the above.

I disagree, the injury had no impact. Taylor would still have refused to play because he wanted to leave. 

But he stated that the main driver was being unsure about his fitness, due to the injury.

I know he did, and I'm 99% sure that's rubbish, he just doesn't want to admit he was greedy. Regardless, the injury was several months before. In fact, IMO it makes it worse because he has admitted he was barely training. So in fact that reduces the risk of injury. Even 5 games is what around 8 hours of football? 

He said in that interview "another transfer was blocked in January". The bloke wanted out and didn't want to get injured playing for a club he was going to leave so he let the club and his teammates down.

EDIT - less than hour and ago you stated he was lying and exaggerating about the injury? Now you're saying the injury was the reason?

I don't disagree with much that you've posted. Regarding the final point, I was summarising my views in the post with bullet points, but referenced Taylor's statement in the latter post. 

Fair enough and it might have made an impact, I guess we'll never know for sure. I just think he would have made the same selfish decision regardless so don't really feel the injury made a big difference (albeit it did during the season itself as he missed a chunk of games). 

paulsturgess said:

mendonca said:

- His face shows that he is lying when talking about the pain he was in "being rolled on and off"...look at how much of an exaggerated face he pulls.

- "Deconditioned through not training or playing". Isn't this normal while injured? You were fulfilling your international dreams playing with people of a non league standard.

- Such a shame Bowyer couldn't give Taylor the Dyer/J Williams treatment.

I think the deconditioned comment was with regard to the covid Off period , then coming back at higher risk of injury because of that “deconditioning period” than he would have been if they’d been played out in March and April as planned at which point he was “conditioned” (albeit apparently struggling with injury)

Funny how 99% of players managed to come back & play in June.

@golfaddick he played 16 times between returning from injury and the end of his contract out of a possible 21 games. 

I believe we rushed him back, but certainly not excessively. 

Making_all_the_noise said:

Blah blah blah, still trying to justify himself to everyone three years later.

it doesn’t matter what you say Lyle, we all remember what happened, you can’t rewrite history. You behaved like a selfish c*nt when your club needed you and you can never reverse that.

You now have a lot of money in your bank account 👏 but the price you will forever pay for that, is that we all know you’re a c*nt. He’ll say he doesn’t care what we think but he definitely does, that’s why he’s still trying to lie to us about it. We know what you are Lyle, just don’t show your face round our ends again. 

I bet he is gutted what some Charlton fans think of him, he's made his money and no doubt does not have to work again.

Rare to have two c*nts on the radio at the same time.

Making_all_the_noise said:

Blah blah blah, still trying to justify himself to everyone three years later.

it doesn’t matter what you say Lyle, we all remember what happened, you can’t rewrite history. You behaved like a selfish c*nt when your club needed you and you can never reverse that.

You now have a lot of money in your bank account 👏 but the price you will forever pay for that, is that we all know you’re a c*nt. He’ll say he doesn’t care what we think but he definitely does, that’s why he’s still trying to lie to us about it. We know what you are Lyle, just don’t show your face round our ends again. 

I doubt he's that desperate to make amends.

The biggest problem for a leaguen1 club will be the potential detriment someone of his character will have on a carefully budgeted and assembled squad. Managers will be thinking "when the going gets tough, I won't be able to trust him" and players will think the same. He has played no competitive football for ages which is shocking considering he hasn't been out through injury, just for not being good enough in a managers eyes. 

Also, dropping other players names, he is trying to deflect, they are hardly going to try and talk him out of it as he'd made his mind up and was fishing for validation. I bet there were loads who said, 'come on muchnwe need slither 3 points and we are safe 

I like to think if we had more competent leadership at the club at the time we could have pursued him for breach of contract.