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Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)
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I don’t think he’s coming back and nor do i think he’s the same player he was when playing for us. No need to make excuses for him either, he made a decision that worked for him, he’s not a Charlton fan (doubt it would matter anyway).A predominantly journeyman footballer didn’t take any risks when offered the chance to be made for life…If he were to come back, it would be for the same reason that any of our current players find themselves at this club, because it’s the best opportunity on the table at the time.2
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bollox - he's not coming back and thats thatKips said:Do some of you actually think we've got any say in whether he comes back or not. Just like with Bonne last season if Holden thinks he's the man for us then he'll take him and we will just have to suck it up. I don't like what Vile Traitor did one bit but if he ever pulled on the shirt again he'd have my support like the rest of the boys in red & white.
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You're right there Doucher. He said on 5 live he still feels he is a championship level striker. Intriguing to see whether he is fixed up by the end of the month. He'll surely have to set his sights lower if not.0 -
Every time he speaks on his exit he adds a little bit more to his truth. Frankly I struggle to believe a single word that comes out of his mouth.3
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70 odd games in the last 3 years since leaving us with a 12-goal return. He's no longer prolific and whilst I can forgive people I can't forget and feel that if the club brought him back in it would send the wrong message to our current group.7
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I believe he was a victim in Charlton's madcap revolving door at the time. He quickly realised his own limitations and had the honesty and integrity to admit it - two words I don't associate with Lyle Taylor. I do hope Polish Pete made a few quid out of it.ForeverAddickted said:
Polish Pete?North Lower Neil said:
If only we could uncover a Polish version of Yann.Wheresmeticket? said:
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?grumpyaddick said:My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.“Remember the Polish striker?” Powell asks the audience. “Polish Pete we used to call him, we couldn’t say his surname. He literally turned up, I was having a staff meeting. And [club secretary] Chris Parkes came upstairs and said Pete’s downstairs and I said ‘Who? Who are you talking about?’ He said ‘Oh it’s a striker, he’s turned up and is here for training.’ And I said ‘Parksey…I don’t know who he is.’
“It’s not the lad’s fault, but I went down and I had to act as if I knew him! I said, ‘Peter! I couldn’t wait till you turned up, your kit’s here, go and get your kit.’ And I didn’t know him. And I think he cost 800,000 euros. I was compelled to put him on the bench. And I think I brought him on for 10 or 15 minutes, I don’t think he ever played again.
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Can I just say Parker to the highlighted point. Still despise him and happy every time he gets sacked.StanTheMan said:What would happen if our team gave him a 12 month contract, hypothetically thinking would we forgive him if he got us 20 goals and promotion, would the fans suddenly stop going?
What he did was morally wrong, footballers or those from any other profession which [pays more than I can dream of earning will always put them and their families first!
I was gutted and upset, but if he came back and made it up to the fans, I think we genuinely forgive people and move on with our lives, I have been supporting this club since the 70's, but I rarely find the time to get to games nowadays, but would have no objection!
As mentioned he is 33 so it won't happen, and was Bowyer at Brum and took him back?1 -
I heard him talk about the value of the qualification prize if Monserrat had got through rounds for the ?World Cup, as its a small (poor) island it was equivalent to £1k per head of population, so he was highly motivated to play formendonca said:
Playing for Monserrat, on an awful pitch, lacking medical facilities and staff, getting injured for months, returning via a train to Ebbsfleet......seems a bit more than an indirect influence on his decision, which came about as an outcome of the above.cafcfan1990 said:I don’t blame him for playing international football. Imagine if England players turned down call ups because it’s the club games that pay their salary. I know that’s truth and the English comparison isn’t like for like, but an injury can happen at any point. Not defending what he did, but playing for Montserrat didn’t directly influence his decision.
his country. In this respect he was not selfish.
wrt his own contract with CAFC, with a short career and a family he made the right choices.
Nottingham Forest were rumoured to pay him 3 -4 time what we did.
The days of playing on with injuries/risk of injuries is gone.
As fans we have an emotional relationship with the club, but for the players its more variable, for some its a job with their health/body as their asset to manage.
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Because he was askedThe Red Robin said:If Taylor believes he made the right decision then why is he still trying to justify it several years later.2 -
Agree there are big question marks about 1) fitness 2) is he as sharp? 3) motivation. However at this level we signed Bogle remember? So offer Lyle a contract based on appearances and goals. It's always a gamble even though he's a free transfer, but after he scores 3-4 the majority of fans will cheer him. Or if he doesn't he will get released and score for someone else.North Lower Neil said:
Nah, f**k him.Lurker said:Expect to be in a minority but I’d love to see him back. I don’t think he’d have a negative affect on the dressing room, quite the opposite.Hated him at the time… now I half respect his honesty.
Not only is it like going back to a cheating ex when you should move on and find someone who is less of a twat, he's also 33 and hasn't played in a year, no guarantees we'd be getting the same quality of player we had last time.1 -
And that’s what he’ll be always be remembered for!!KingKinsella said:
Because he was askedThe Red Robin said:If Taylor believes he made the right decision then why is he still trying to justify it several years later.0 - Sponsored links:
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And then don't pick him.KingKinsella said:
Agree there are big question marks about 1) fitness 2) is he as sharp? 3) motivation. However at this level we signed Bogle remember? So offer Lyle a contract based on appearances and goals. It's always a gamble even though he's a free transfer, but after he scores 3-4 the majority of fans will cheer him. Or if he doesn't he will get released and score for someone else.North Lower Neil said:
Nah, f**k him.Lurker said:Expect to be in a minority but I’d love to see him back. I don’t think he’d have a negative affect on the dressing room, quite the opposite.Hated him at the time… now I half respect his honesty.
Not only is it like going back to a cheating ex when you should move on and find someone who is less of a twat, he's also 33 and hasn't played in a year, no guarantees we'd be getting the same quality of player we had last time.9 -
The duality of Lee Bowyer...Callumcafc said:
Jump out of a tackle for fear of injury... You're getting subbed off, dropped and screamed at.
Refuse to play 9 games for fear of injury... No worries mate, I totally understand.27 -
He should just put a poll up on here @bertpalmer and find out for surebertpalmer said:
to gauge the feelings of Charlton supporters before he decides whether to sign or notThe Red Robin said:If Taylor believes he made the right decision then why is he still trying to justify it several years later.4 -
Not for me - he burned a few boats and besides that he hasn't played for the last season so I doubt he'd be match fit or anywhere close. There are other players who I'd rather invest in rather than a player in uncertain fitness who's looking for one last payday. There'd be an irony though in him not playing for us in June/July 2020 because he wasn't fit and then signing on to play a long season when he isn't fit.Lurker said:Expect to be in a minority but I’d love to see him back. I don’t think he’d have a negative affect on the dressing room, quite the opposite.Hated him at the time… now I half respect his honesty.
As for his honesty, I dispute his version of events, he refused to re-join the squad after lockdown claiming that it was too dangerous an environment.
I'm pretty sure if he'd had a conversation with Bow along the lines of I can't play a full 90 minutes twice a week and since I'm out of contract I'd be grateful if I could be stood down the moment Charlton are mathematically safe from relegation then something could have been arranged.
He did what he felt was right for himself and screw everyone else, that's the bottom line here.
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But which way up does he eat his biscuits?4
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The Red Robin said:If Taylor believes he made the right decision then why is he still trying to justify it several years later.
He was asked the question by the presenter on BBC Five live so he answered it.
It's the first time I had heard him talk about why he didn't play and Lyle said it was because he made a selfish decision. With Bowyer and Taylor in the studio together it would have been an ignorant Presenter not to raise the matter.
For a guy who said he doesn't like football he is going to great lengths to stay in the pro game for a couple more seasons.
If Matthew "my door is always open" Southall was my boss I would want to move on unless I knew he was going very soon.
Being a Cafc fan I was gutted and instead of leaving on decent terms with the fans he is now persona non Grata.
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i heard he just licks 'em and then puts them back in the pack.RickAddick said:But which way up does he eat his biscuits?
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Wouldn't pass the no dickheads policySidewaysInOz said:70 odd games in the last 3 years since leaving us with a 12-goal return. He's no longer prolific and whilst I can forgive people I can't forget and feel that if the club brought him back in it would send the wrong message to our current group.1 - Sponsored links:
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I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.5 -
I've been agreeing with you about this for as long as this conversation has been going, however, while I get that he had no loyalty to Charlton and needed to make sure he didn't damage his move to Forest with a potential injury, he also stopped playing when he was under contract. He was paid for a lot of that season by Charlton while injured, so his refusal to turn out while he was under contract for me should have seen some sort of repercussions.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.
Having said that, I also understand why Bowyer wanted him. He had shown he knew where the net was, and Bowyer as amanager needed to win games so he pragmatically bought in Taylor knowing the good and bad sides of the player he signed.3 -
If Taylor had seen out his contact and gone on a free to Forest with a huge hike in wages then no problem. However he didn’t fulfil his contract obligations. He chose to down tools and refuse to play the last 9 games. That’s the reason why the majority of supporters are “uptight” with this.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.And yes I get the bollocks about he might get injured in the last 9 games costing him a life changing contract bah bah bah but if that was the case you would cross the bloody road or do anything in life.7 -
I wouldn't disagree, for some footballers, it is 100% just a job.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.
Like for some owners, clubs are 100% just commercial businesses, and we're just their customers.
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I do not disagree with your opening paragraph.Amos on the wing said:
If Taylor had seen out his contact and gone on a free to Forest with a huge hike in wages then no problem. However he didn’t fulfil his contract obligations. He chose to down tools and refuse to play the last 9 games. That’s the reason why the majority of supporters are “uptight” with this.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.And yes I get the bollocks about he might get injured in the last 9 games costing him a life changing contract bah bah bah but if that was the case you would cross the bloody road or do anything in life.
As far as I am concerned if he did it to another club, let's say palice, we'd be laughing our tits off.
He was a naughty boy and broke his contract but I will never change my stance. A life changing move so b******* to the employers.0 -
Reading between the lines, it seems that Bowyer did not disagree too much with Taylor.ken_shabby said:
I've been agreeing with you about this for as long as this conversation has been going, however, while I get that he had no loyalty to Charlton and needed to make sure he didn't damage his move to Forest with a potential injury, he also stopped playing when he was under contract. He was paid for a lot of that season by Charlton while injured, so his refusal to turn out while he was under contract for me should have seen some sort of repercussions.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.
Having said that, I also understand why Bowyer wanted him. He had shown he knew where the net was, and Bowyer as amanager needed to win games so he pragmatically bought in Taylor knowing the good and bad sides of the player he signed.0 -
I could not give 2 shits if he did it to palace or any other club. He chose to refuse to fulfil his contract obligations to OUR club knowing he could have played a huge part in keeping us up.ElfsborgAddick said:
I do not disagree with your opening paragraph.Amos on the wing said:
If Taylor had seen out his contact and gone on a free to Forest with a huge hike in wages then no problem. However he didn’t fulfil his contract obligations. He chose to down tools and refuse to play the last 9 games. That’s the reason why the majority of supporters are “uptight” with this.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.And yes I get the bollocks about he might get injured in the last 9 games costing him a life changing contract bah bah bah but if that was the case you would cross the bloody road or do anything in life.
As far as I am concerned if he did it to another club, let's say palice, we'd be laughing our tits off.
He was a naughty boy and broke his contract but I will never change my stance. A life changing move so b******* to the employers.
Pointless going over the same old thing as you see it that way and the majority of others don’t. Fair enough it’s all about opinions.3 -
Agreed.Amos on the wing said:
I could not give 2 shits if he did it to palace or any other club. He chose to refuse to fulfil his contract obligations to OUR club knowing he could have played a huge part in keeping us up.ElfsborgAddick said:
I do not disagree with your opening paragraph.Amos on the wing said:
If Taylor had seen out his contact and gone on a free to Forest with a huge hike in wages then no problem. However he didn’t fulfil his contract obligations. He chose to down tools and refuse to play the last 9 games. That’s the reason why the majority of supporters are “uptight” with this.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.And yes I get the bollocks about he might get injured in the last 9 games costing him a life changing contract bah bah bah but if that was the case you would cross the bloody road or do anything in life.
As far as I am concerned if he did it to another club, let's say palice, we'd be laughing our tits off.
He was a naughty boy and broke his contract but I will never change my stance. A life changing move so b******* to the employers.
Pointless going over the same old thing as you see it that way and the majority of others don’t. Fair enough it’s all about opinions.
Take care.1 -
i'd like to have a stab at answering this if I may - and I don't want to talk for others.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.
For them it is purely a job, and that's fair enough, but for fans it is a whole life choice to follow their team. I agree that they don't need to show any love for us, but they (and this goes for all footballers) do need to understand that without us (as in fans in general) this sport would barely exist. What he did was the definition of unprofessional and a slap in the face for any football fan let alone us as Charlton fans.
i'm up tight about him because he didn't fulfill his obligations. He can look at it as just a job and half arse it for the games he is contracted for if he likes, but downing tools completely is beyond the pale and I don't care what explanations or excuses he has or had. I feel the same about Parker - he could have got his move without downing tools the way he did as well. I don't hold the same dislike for Defoe for example - as I don't think he ever refused to play or owt like that - even though it was frustrating the way he left.
There ain't many players I dislike but Taylor and Parker are top of the list and probably always will be.
Look at someone like Darren Bent, arguably twice the player of both - he stayed with us to the bitter end, did his best to keep us up, and left with our thanks. i'm sure he had options in January of that relegation season. Those two are not half the professional DB was and guess what, he still got his big money move at the end of it and I don't know a single Charlton fan that begrudged him it.
It's a damn shame because Parker and Taylor in particular could have been given the kind of heros welcome Benty, Johnnie Jackson or Chrissy Powell will always get when they visit the valley which would have been richly deserved had they not chosen the path they did.
As it is they chose what they chose and as far as i'm concerned I don't want to see their faces at the Valley ever again.4 -
You too mateElfsborgAddick said:
Agreed.Amos on the wing said:
I could not give 2 shits if he did it to palace or any other club. He chose to refuse to fulfil his contract obligations to OUR club knowing he could have played a huge part in keeping us up.ElfsborgAddick said:
I do not disagree with your opening paragraph.Amos on the wing said:
If Taylor had seen out his contact and gone on a free to Forest with a huge hike in wages then no problem. However he didn’t fulfil his contract obligations. He chose to down tools and refuse to play the last 9 games. That’s the reason why the majority of supporters are “uptight” with this.ElfsborgAddick said:I really do not know why people get so uptight with players, for them it is purely a job and getting what can from a very short career.
Taylor hit the jackpot with Forest after a journeyman career. A life changing move.And yes I get the bollocks about he might get injured in the last 9 games costing him a life changing contract bah bah bah but if that was the case you would cross the bloody road or do anything in life.
As far as I am concerned if he did it to another club, let's say palice, we'd be laughing our tits off.
He was a naughty boy and broke his contract but I will never change my stance. A life changing move so b******* to the employers.
Pointless going over the same old thing as you see it that way and the majority of others don’t. Fair enough it’s all about opinions.
Take care.1
