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Fraser and Camera injuries

willieduff
willieduff Posts: 986
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What is the current status regarding their injuries?
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,439
    There were recent images of them both on Social Media (not via. Charlton)

    Fraser appears back out on the Grass, Camara is using an Anti-Grav machine.

    Going by the details on the latter; Sage (one of the few on here with very good knowledge on Injuries to Footballers) seemed to think that Camara isn't far away from returning to running either.

    So hopefully wont be much longer, seeing Leaburn quickly returned to the First Team when we got told about that.
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,685
    ForeverAddickted said:
    There were recent images of them both on Social Media (not via. Charlton)

    Fraser appears back out on the Grass, Camara is using an Anti-Grav machine.

    Going by the details on the latter; Sage (one of the few on here with very good knowledge on Injuries to Footballers) seemed to think that Camara isn't far away from returning to running either.

    So hopefully wont be much longer, seeing Leaburn quickly returned to the First Team when we got told about that.
    Researched this on the net but fail to see how this helps?


  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    ForeverAddickted said:
    There were recent images of them both on Social Media (not via. Charlton)

    Fraser appears back out on the Grass, Camara is using an Anti-Grav machine.

    Going by the details on the latter; Sage (one of the few on here with very good knowledge on Injuries to Footballers) seemed to think that Camara isn't far away from returning to running either.

    So hopefully wont be much longer, seeing Leaburn quickly returned to the First Team when we got told about that.
    Was impressed how sharp Miles looked on his return. Augurs well. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,628
    We really need those two back very quickly. Anyone with an update on Chuks ?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Quick plug for this thread, which I think is a great resource from @Dazzler21 (and whoever else is able to continue updating it) 

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/96662/23-24-injuries-thread/p1 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,626
    JamesSeed said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    There were recent images of them both on Social Media (not via. Charlton)

    Fraser appears back out on the Grass, Camara is using an Anti-Grav machine.

    Going by the details on the latter; Sage (one of the few on here with very good knowledge on Injuries to Footballers) seemed to think that Camara isn't far away from returning to running either.

    So hopefully wont be much longer, seeing Leaburn quickly returned to the First Team when we got told about that.
    Was impressed how sharp Miles looked on his return. Augurs well. 
    Not quite in the Rufus category when he set the all time bar for comebacks from injury but I was impressed with Leaburn’s movement and thought he looked sharper than before he was injured 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    JamesSeed said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    There were recent images of them both on Social Media (not via. Charlton)

    Fraser appears back out on the Grass, Camara is using an Anti-Grav machine.

    Going by the details on the latter; Sage (one of the few on here with very good knowledge on Injuries to Footballers) seemed to think that Camara isn't far away from returning to running either.

    So hopefully wont be much longer, seeing Leaburn quickly returned to the First Team when we got told about that.
    Was impressed how sharp Miles looked on his return. Augurs well. 
    Not quite in the Rufus category when he set the all time bar for comebacks from injury but I was impressed with Leaburn’s movement and thought he looked sharper than before he was injured 
    Yes, he had a spell where he looked a bit off the pace, but you get that with young players I guess. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    I believe they're both being assessed. Now stop poking your nose into club affairs, meddling prole
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    JamesSeed said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    There were recent images of them both on Social Media (not via. Charlton)

    Fraser appears back out on the Grass, Camara is using an Anti-Grav machine.

    Going by the details on the latter; Sage (one of the few on here with very good knowledge on Injuries to Footballers) seemed to think that Camara isn't far away from returning to running either.

    So hopefully wont be much longer, seeing Leaburn quickly returned to the First Team when we got told about that.
    Was impressed how sharp Miles looked on his return. Augurs well. 
    Amazing wasn't it.
    He looked about the fittest player on the pitch.

    It made me wonder whether he could have featured earlier and was kept out to avoid Premier clubs bidding for him. 

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,284
    Chuks looking bubbly apparently, his latest disability living allowance payment must have come in
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    We really need those two back very quickly. Anyone with an update on Chuks ?
    His next injury is September 20th.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,629
    at least Chuks is "in a good place" obviously not on a football pitch
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Poor old Chuks. Can’t get a break. 

    ………
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    lancashire lad said:
    at least Chuks is "in a good place" obviously not on a football pitch
    He could still get injured, though.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    lancashire lad said:
    at least Chuks is "in a good place" obviously not on a football pitch
    On another beach most likely.
  • Sir Chrissy
    Sir Chrissy Posts: 609
    A 'minor' foot injury for Camera ...  I got a few negative responses when I mentioned it was 6-8 weeks for his return. 
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    JohnnyH2 said:

    Appleton damning both with faint praise "good players At This Level" doesn't read like either is really very close to a return Even if they are who are they likely to replace?
    Neither provides the industry or diligence of Karoy Anderson and with our piss poor back line MA can't afford to have less solidity in the middle of the park.  One or other might be called upon as a more attacking option when we're behind with 10 minutes to go
    Also reads like he ain't even met A&Eke in person, that comes across as they've chatted remotely.  No drama there tho cos Chuks's time is up innit?
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,785

    Chuks Aneke is also yet to play for Charlton this season and missed the whole of their friendly programme due to a calf problem.

    “One thing is for sure, he seems in a good place – which is helpful,” said Appleton.


    I'd be in a good place if I was getting his wages for doing fuck all

  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,281
    A very oddly un-commital response. I know that over promising on injury returns isn't a good thing but I wonder if other clubs and manages (not just Appleton, seems like all our recent ones) are so evasive on injury updates.

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Billy_Mix said:
    JohnnyH2 said:

    Appleton damning both with faint praise "good players At This Level" doesn't read like either is really very close to a return Even if they are who are they likely to replace?
    Neither provides the industry or diligence of Karoy Anderson and with our piss poor back line MA can't afford to have less solidity in the middle of the park.  One or other might be called upon as a more attacking option when we're behind with 10 minutes to go
    Also reads like he ain't even met A&Eke in person, that comes across as they've chatted remotely.  No drama there tho cos Chuks's time is up innit?
    I feel like that's just, what you say. Like it's an expression. I know I'm an American explaining this to a (presumably) British person but I feel like that's a phrasing that gets used on here a lot and not meant with faint praise. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    Athletico Charlton said:
    A very oddly un-commital response. I know that over promising on injury returns isn't a good thing but I wonder if other clubs and manages (not just Appleton, seems like all our recent ones) are so evasive on injury updates.
    In this particular case, it could be that having only recently come into the job Appleton has only really been looking at the players that are available right now, and the ones that aren't. He's got to try and get the team competitive by Saturday so if Fraser, Camara etc aren't going to factor in then they are not really part of his thinking yet.

    Once they are able to train with the rest of the squad and compete for places he can look in more detail.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    JamesSeed said:
    Poor old Chuks. Can’t get a break. 

    ………
    The last thing he wants is a broken leg 🙄
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,281
    thenewbie said:
    Athletico Charlton said:
    A very oddly un-commital response. I know that over promising on injury returns isn't a good thing but I wonder if other clubs and manages (not just Appleton, seems like all our recent ones) are so evasive on injury updates.
    In this particular case, it could be that having only recently come into the job Appleton has only really been looking at the players that are available right now, and the ones that aren't. He's got to try and get the team competitive by Saturday so if Fraser, Camara etc aren't going to factor in then they are not really part of his thinking yet.

    Once they are able to train with the rest of the squad and compete for places he can look in more detail.

    Maybe but these are 2 key players in Fraser and Camara and 2 potentially key players in Aneke (if ever fit) and McG (an Appleton fav) so I reckon any half decent new manager (which I think he is) would have asked questions on them all very early.  At the training ground a 30min chat with a physio should be enough so I don't buy that he is not aware personally.  If the injured were more peripheral then a different matter.
    It doesn't really matter, they will be back when they are back it just seems strange how obfuscated injuries have become in recent years at Charlton.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Sir Chrissy said:
    A 'minor' foot injury for Camera ...  I got a few negative responses when I mentioned it was 6-8 weeks for his return. 
    I remember when you posted that, and then Holden saying "minor" and I was like "thank God that bloke was wrong."

    I apologize.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Athletico Charlton said:
    A very oddly un-commital response. I know that over promising on injury returns isn't a good thing but I wonder if other clubs and manages (not just Appleton, seems like all our recent ones) are so evasive on injury updates.
    It's not an exact science though, is it.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    limeygent said:
    Athletico Charlton said:
    A very oddly un-commital response. I know that over promising on injury returns isn't a good thing but I wonder if other clubs and manages (not just Appleton, seems like all our recent ones) are so evasive on injury updates.
    It's not an exact science though, is it.
    Yeah I just read the article and I didn't think anything of it. He was kind of evasive, but I feel like that's pretty standard. For Fraser, coming back from a soft tissue injury there are a lot of variables around ramping back up. I don't know exactly what the injury to Camara is. I don't know, I thought it was a pretty standard answer for where they seem to be in their recovery process.
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    It seems like club policy now is to not put out bulletins about injured players and for managers to be vague in their responses when directly asked about return dates. I first noticed it when Jacko was at wheel.

    In this day and age there really is no excuse not to communicate broad timelines at least, unless our medical dept. is so incompetent they don't know. 

    We used to get more news on injury returns on Club Call back in the day, ffs.  The club need taking to task on this at the next fans forum.




  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,029
    "One thing is for sure, he seems in a good place – which is helpful,” said Appleton. “The better place you are mentally then you are going to recover and be ready to be involved."

    I know it's often been commented on that the issues with Chuks are perhaps more mental than physical, but does this comment confirm that? Am i reading too much into it or is he implying Chuks is in a good place mentally rather than with his actual injury?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,179
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    "One thing is for sure, he seems in a good place – which is helpful,” said Appleton. “The better place you are mentally then you are going to recover and be ready to be involved."

    I know it's often been commented on that the issues with Chuks are perhaps more mental than physical, but does this comment confirm that? Am i reading too much into it or is he implying Chuks is in a good place mentally rather than with his actual injury?
    think it was a general comment, it’s generally accepted that although a more positive outlook won’t solve any problems it can remove a barrier in all sorts of health issues 

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