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MATCH THREAD (+POST p23): Charlton Athl v Cray Valley PM: FA Cup š1st Rd: Sun 5 Nov 2023 | KO 17:30
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Spot on line up in my opinion. Players with something to prove and all are head and shoulders above what's at Cray Valley's disposal. That's not to disrespect the opposition but they are part time non-leaguers so shouldn't be an issue as long as we turn in a professional performance.Ā
Wouldn't have had Leaburn or May anywhere near this squad. Hopefully they will not be needed.5 -
What happens if one of our better players gets injured, and we don't have match fitness amongst the backup players? - We'll be carrying them even more than usual, because we'll be waiting for them to get up to speed.valleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā5 -
Okvalleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā
So we play Alfie May in a game v CVPM
He gets injured and is out for 3 months
Appleton then has the fanbase saying why is he playing our best players for a game against a team like CVPM when we could have beat them with our squad playersĀ10 -
The timestamp is 4.39pm. A full 51 minutes before we've even had a chance to kick off, the shit McGrandles nicknames are back. Rejoice!Fumbluff said:McStandstill in the same starting line-up as Kirk in a flat out race for the record lowest scoring stat bank average, youāll all be glued to your seatsā¦
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Should add that the timing is completely fucked up.
Got to watch both the Brazilian GP, and Charlton at the same time today!! - If only we'd been selected at midday instead of Pompey, am sure they wouldn't have minded the late journey home @ 7pm0 -
Going to be interested to see McGrandles, given his form under Appleton @ Lincoln - He did make me laugh the other day though, when the players got asked (as part of a Social Media thing) what Superpower they'd have.Garrymanilow said:
The timestamp is 4.39pm. A full 51 minutes before we've even had a chance to kick off, the shit McGrandles nicknames are back. Rejoice!Fumbluff said:McStandstill in the same starting line-up as Kirk in a flat out race for the record lowest scoring stat bank average, youāll all be glued to your seatsā¦
Many decided on the ability to teleport - Conor said he'd have super strength as he has none of it on the pitch, or something to that extent...6 -
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Same risk every game. Same risk in training.ĀForeverAddickted said:
What happens if one of our better players gets injured, and we don't have match fitness amongst the backup players? - We'll be carrying them even more than usual, because we'll be waiting for them to get up to speed.valleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā2 -
Hence why you can... You give your backup players minutes where possiblevalleynick66 said:
Same risk every game. Same risk in training.ĀForeverAddickted said:
What happens if one of our better players gets injured, and we don't have match fitness amongst the backup players? - We'll be carrying them even more than usual, because we'll be waiting for them to get up to speed.valleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā4 -
Nah lightning can't strike twice ...........................ĀEveshamAddick said:
Just remembering this:paulie8290 said:
And how good are the Cray Valley PM team compared to the Wigan teamEveshamAddick said:How close is that starting 11 to the 11 who tried to throw away a 3 goal lead up at Wigan?
I mean I get we have to show respect to the oppositionĀ
But come on there is no one who can honestly say the team we have put out is not good enough to be beating a team like CVPMĀ
We haven't out out an under 18s team, we have put out a team of senior pros who have played league 1 football this seasonĀ
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/8340994.stm
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On that logic / risk why have him on the bench then?paulie8290 said:
Okvalleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā
So we play Alfie May in a game v CVPM
He gets injured and is out for 3 months
Appleton then has the fanbase saying why is he playing our best players for a game against a team like CVPM when we could have beat them with our squad playersĀ3 -
Absolutely. If we stop picking players just because theyĀ mightĀ get injured, we might as well pack up now .Āvalleynick66 said:
Same risk every game. Same risk in training.ĀForeverAddickted said:
What happens if one of our better players gets injured, and we don't have match fitness amongst the backup players? - We'll be carrying them even more than usual, because we'll be waiting for them to get up to speed.valleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā6 -
Or we play our best team and still lose - like Portsmouth did today.paulie8290 said:
Okvalleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā
So we play Alfie May in a game v CVPM
He gets injured and is out for 3 months
Appleton then has the fanbase saying why is he playing our best players for a game against a team like CVPM when we could have beat them with our squad playersĀ
Let those players from the Wigan victory ride the confidence boost that came from that.5 -
We'll learn absolutely nothing from turning over this lot with our best players. Do you really think we'll devise new strategies because Alfie May, 11 league goals in already, bangs a few in against a team in the 7th division? If we'd played Tyreece Campbell in the 10 role and he'd torn them apart does that tell us that he's going to be able to smash Pompey when we play them despite them having far better players to put up against him? This is exactly when you use your squad players; you give them a chance to show they can perform when called upon, you keep their match fitness up and you can tell them that if they put in the work and the performance is there they'll be in contention in the league. That's worth far more than the 'confidence' we'd get from hammering the team who are currently 6th in the Isthmian League South East Division.valleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā
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Believe it or not. This is the team (apart from Abankwah) that I thought, I was going to put it on the preview thread but could not be bothered with all the moans about my selection. If it is good enough for MA and me, it must be OK š„“3
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That team had better deliver. Cray will be a solid unit whatever their limitations as players, we might look like a team of strangers.3
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Almost like some people aren't happy unless they have something to moan about š¤£š¤£4
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Not to mention if McGrandles plays really well today, he puts himself in contention for the match day squad - In turn forces the starting eleven to perform better, knowing their place isnt secure.Callumcafc said:
Or we play our best team and still lose - like Portsmouth did today.paulie8290 said:
Okvalleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā
So we play Alfie May in a game v CVPM
He gets injured and is out for 3 months
Appleton then has the fanbase saying why is he playing our best players for a game against a team like CVPM when we could have beat them with our squad playersĀ
Let those players from the Wigan victory ride the confidence boost that came from that.
We've seen how badly Charlton can play, when individuals know that their place in the team is safe4 -
We wont learn anything at all from this game.Garrymanilow said:
We'll learn absolutely nothing from turning over this lot with our best players. Do you really think we'll devise new strategies because Alfie May, 11 league goals in already, bangs a few in against a team in the 7th division? If we'd played Tyreece Campbell in the 10 role and he'd torn them apart does that tell us that he's going to be able to smash Pompey when we play them despite them having far better players to put up against him? This is exactly when you use your squad players; you give them a chance to show they can perform when called upon, you keep their match fitness up and you can tell them that if they put in the work and the performance is there they'll be in contention in the league. That's worth far more than the 'confidence' we'd get from hammering the team who are currently 6th in the Isthmian League South East Division.valleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā
We're on a hiding to nothing... We either slaughter Cray Valley as expected... Great, we know Kirk etc. can perform against that standard.
If we barely beat them, then the reputation of Kirk etc. will sink even lower.1 -
And itās also a contributing reason why hardly anyone will be there too because itās not a certainty you are paying to watch theā1st teamā.Ā0
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If weāll learn nothing from playing our best players and winning, then surely we also learn nothing from playing the squad players. If Kirk gets a hat trick today, do we start him instead of May against Pompey?Garrymanilow said:
We'll learn absolutely nothing from turning over this lot with our best players. Do you really think we'll devise new strategies because Alfie May, 11 league goals in already, bangs a few in against a team in the 7th division? If we'd played Tyreece Campbell in the 10 role and he'd torn them apart does that tell us that he's going to be able to smash Pompey when we play them despite them having far better players to put up against him? This is exactly when you use your squad players; you give them a chance to show they can perform when called upon, you keep their match fitness up and you can tell them that if they put in the work and the performance is there they'll be in contention in the league. That's worth far more than the 'confidence' we'd get from hammering the team who are currently 6th in the Isthmian League South East Division.valleynick66 said:
Not the whole point.ĀCallumcafc said:To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.
There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isnāt good enough to win this comfortably.We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we arenāt yet) and get the confidence from a big win.ĀJust progressing is not the only opportunity.Ā2 -
Would have rather started with 10 than have Kirk in the team. Should be binned off to the U18's to train until we can get rid.
Looking forward to see Anderson, Edun, Chem and McGrandles, none of whom I remember seeing for us before.0 -
Charlton Fans: We are cursed, our sports science team is rubbish, we have such a poor injury record.
Also Charlton Fans: Why we not playing our strongest XI against a team on the 7th/8th level of the football pyramid.
Also itās not just that. Thereās a squad of 22 players, and however you might disagree, itās about trying to keep that squad not only fit (whether by giving minutes or resting) but also reasonably happy and motivated - because that helps drive up standards across the whole team.ĀImagine playing for a team where you basically know youāve got very very limited chances of ever getting a game. And imagine how that might rub off across the whole squad and team spirit.Ā4 -
Anyway... this is the team we're having to watch
Do we only support the better players or the team as a whole?4 -
I really hope Tedic takes his chance of playing as a No 9, his actual best position, and gives the manager food for thought. Ditto I want Chem Campbell to show Appleton that he should be featuring more.2
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More importantly, have you finished your Sunday lunch?ForeverAddickted said:Should add that the timing is completely fucked up.
Got to watch both the Brazilian GP, and Charlton at the same time today!! - If only we'd been selected at midday instead of Pompey, am sure they wouldn't have minded the late journey home @ 7pm2 -
Eating it now actually... Got BBQ Ribs, Onion Rings and Ricekillerandflash said:
More importantly, have you finished your Sunday lunch?ForeverAddickted said:Should add that the timing is completely fucked up.
Got to watch both the Brazilian GP, and Charlton at the same time today!! - If only we'd been selected at midday instead of Pompey, am sure they wouldn't have minded the late journey home @ 7pm
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What side is it on? Says BBC 2 on Sofascore but canāt find it anywhere on the bbc app0
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I'm only here for Golfie's early Rate My Plate entry.2
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Just watch the first and last 5 minutes of the Grand Prix, only important bits, then concentrate on the match...šForeverAddickted said:Should add that the timing is completely fucked up.
Got to watch both the Brazilian GP, and Charlton at the same time today!! - If only we'd been selected at midday instead of Pompey, am sure they wouldn't have minded the late journey home @ 7pm2
