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MATCH THREAD (+POST p23): Charlton Athl v Cray Valley PM: FA Cup š1st Rd: Sun 5 Nov 2023 | KO 17:30
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This forum is dour at the best of times, but I really just donāt get it today.ĀPelling1993 said:11 changes, winning, no injuries. Cheer up everyoneĀWe are in no danger of losing, the only chance we have is if Ness and Thomas decide to keep passing it to the opposition, or Kirk again shows as much strength as my 4 year old son.As Cray Valley tire and we potentially bring on some of our subs we will score again. I was going 5-0 as thought we would be 2 up by the end of this half. But still think we will win by more than 3.Ā6 -
Thomas, Kirk and Tedic have been woeful. McGrandles and Anderson only marginally better. Nbankwah will go back in January if Appleton won't give him a chance in his proper position in a game like this l, there is no point him being here. Fraser has strolled around looking largely uninterested and I forgot Edun was playing. Chem Campbell has tried to make things happen but is pretty ineffective.Quick passing and movement is the way to beat these sort of teams and we have done neither.The way Appleton was marching up and down and muttering to himself I suspect they are getting both barrells at the moment.0
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That can best be described as a half of football.Ā
Not great watching. We don't look like we're trying overly hard and we're winning. They are content to sit off until about 40 yards from goal where they look very aggressive and organized.
I am very much of the belief that there is nothing to be gained from games like this except a win and some match fitness for players coming back from injury. If we win, I'll be content.Ā0 -
Paul Konchesky adds absolutely nothing as a pundit. Can barely string a sentence together and his over exaggerated East London accent is annoying. Nothing even half intelligent comes out his mouthĀ3
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First team starters not much to worry about from their understudies on that showing, only a couple worthy of challenging for a place but I think we already knew that š¤.
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That was awful. Ā Need to pay Kirk off as no chance weāll sell him. Ā At least free up a slot to sign someone who actually has a tiny amount of enthusiasmĀ1
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Kirk is absolute pants, please take that waste of space off.Ā Ā1
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Hm. We're winning but there's very few players out there who look genuinely too good for Cray. Campbell, Anderson and McGrandles are the only ones who really look it. Campbell is obviously miles ahead but isn't influencing the game enough. Anderson is too strong for them but his passing has been a bit erratic. McGrandles mercifully has actually looked really good. He's won his challenges, his positioning has been good and he's been very tidy with the ball. He's playing the deeper role Garner wanted to use him in and he's been very good at it. Can't read too much into a good performance into an 8th tier team, but then as we've seen players can definitely look bad against them so may as well enjoy a decent enough showing.ĀAt the back Edun looks like he really enjoys giving the ball away and is absolutely determined to do something regardless of if that something is on or not. It's very annoying. Ness has been so loose in possession. Thomas has been good at blocking but not much else. Abankwah started shakily but he's realised he's quicker and stronger than these Cray players and he's settled down a bit. Fraser needs to do a bit more as he's been pretty languid and Tedic has had nothing to work with.And Kirk. Fucking hell. I hate digging out our players but he's actually terrible and I have nothing positive to say about him except that I found it genuinely funny when he stayed down after giving the ball away from our corner and starting an opposition counter. Wish he'd not got back up.0
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This is what you get when you completely change the team. No cohesion as the players haven't played together & cant read runs etc.Ā
I always go back to the old days. When teams played cup completion after cup competition....replay after replay withĀ virtually the same side.Ā
Some players in Forests European Cup win players 70 games that season.Ā Winning is a habit.Ā4 -
It's not been the most exciting of games, but hey we've scored and we have a clean sheet. Unless they have come for the proverbial day out, the pressure is on them now. They've done well so far but I reckon they'll get tired and crack before long. Keep the faith. This match is there for the taking.1
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Maybe it's coming across different on TV but it has all the intensity and atmosphere of a pre season game atmĀkillerandflash said:
Disagree. The last thing they wanted was Charlton to be 4-0 up, and game over at HT.Croydon said:BBC must regret picking this gameĀ0 -
Please put CBT on for Charlie Kirk, and Dobson and Louie watson for whoever as I don't want Charlton to look so bloody average on the BBC. It's embarrassing enough for me to have Palace and Chelsea fans as neighbours as we continue to establish ourselves as a League 1 side.
This is a 8th level team that play the likes of Sevenoaks who I watch occasionally and Freddie Parker played for them last season and wasn't great.
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Just his log. š©ĀHappy Valley said:Perhaps Kirk would show more enterprise if he were made captain
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Why 'lack of respect'? This is our first team squad, not the youth team. If our squad players can't beat a league 8 team then we are in trouble.Bedsaddick said:Shit first half . This isnāt over . Total lack of respect from Appleton and heās gone down in my estimation for it .ĀKirk is as bad against non league players as he is in the league . He looks uninterested.ĀGive it ten minutes and bring the big guns on .ĀIām just glad I didnāt travel to see this .Ā6 -
Please, please MA get Kirk off and get rid in January, it will have to be a free as no one will pay money for him. If he knew how to tackle it might be a start. I like Abankwah, one of the better players tonight and C Campbell having a good game1
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Not for Charlton.golfaddick said:Ā Winning is a habit.Ā0 -
I think our players are playing with that attitude too. Iām in the ground and you sense the longer it stays like this the more vulnerable we are. They wonāt tire if we continue playing at the same intensity and 80% stroking across the back line like a shit England v San Marino.FishCostaFortune said:
This forum is dour at the best of times, but I really just donāt get it today.ĀPelling1993 said:11 changes, winning, no injuries. Cheer up everyoneĀWe are in no danger of losing, .Ā
2nd goal absolutely vital here with this 112 -
Awful first half, dire.Ā0
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Tell him there's Clingons on the starboard bow... He might shift his arse, or not!guinnessaddick said:
Just his log. š©ĀHappy Valley said:Perhaps Kirk would show more enterprise if he were made captain
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His log would play betterguinnessaddick said:
Just his log. š©ĀHappy Valley said:Perhaps Kirk would show more enterprise if he were made captain0 - Sponsored links:
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Not sure how anyone can be happy with what weāve seen so far.Ā2
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Oh good, Kirkās come back out.2
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Maybe my expectations have been wrecked by years of piss poor cup selections, but I was pleasantly surprised when I saw today's team.Southbank said:
Why 'lack of respect'? This is our first team squad, not the youth team. If our squad players can't beat a league 8 team then we are in trouble.Bedsaddick said:Shit first half . This isnāt over . Total lack of respect from Appleton and heās gone down in my estimation for it .ĀKirk is as bad against non league players as he is in the league . He looks uninterested.ĀGive it ten minutes and bring the big guns on .ĀIām just glad I didnāt travel to see this .Ā1 -
But this is a great chance for him to put himself in the shop window and prove he deserves a decent contract and he's not come anywhere close to that.Bailey said:I think Kirk wants to be here as much we want him to be here. It's a sad situation for both player and club, he knows he will not get that wage anywhere else and unless he takes a huge cut he will still be here.Ā
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Kirk just a waste of space. Does not seem at all interested. Lucky he didnāt gift Cray a goal.Ā0
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I wasnāt asking you šeastterrace6168 said:
Wasn't worried anyway...ššMillwallFan said:
Donāt worry. Found it.ĀMillwallFan said:What side is it on? Says BBC 2 on Sofascore but canāt find it anywhere on the bbc app1 -
Sunday TV on the BBC really is poor isnāt it š0
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Does Walker have inflatable gloves on?ĀAre they allowed?0
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The only real decision is when Appleton decides to make the changes. You would assume Mcgrandles/Edun will be off shortly as this is their first game back.
Probably wonāt be comfortable until Leaburn/May are brought on.
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Can we swap Kirk for Lisbie Jr?
Far too often our players are standing, waiting for the ball to be passed to them.
I'm really not sure that the live video is more or less concerning than just following updates.2
