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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

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  • I reckon he's had chats with player recruitment extraordinaire Scott and he's not liked what he has heard so has decided to voice his opinions to the press.
    I cannot blame him as if he can see a poor January window and the possibility of poor results that would put pressure on his job.

    I cashed out my top 6 bets yesterday, so I must agree.
  • Drinks on you next time then mate :)
  • NabySarr said:
    I don’t think Hector has been good this season, recently he’s been better but overall it’s not been great. But what I’m saying is if we replace Hector with a defender that isn’t comfortable on the ball, the team will be worse off, even if they are better defensively 


    Sorry to get a bit stat nerdy, but compare Jones and Hectors stats for progressive passes and passes into the final third. Jones is below the league 1 CB average in these areas, Hector is much better. That’s the difference and what we’d be hugely lacking without replacing Hectors ability on the ball. We’d really struggle to progress the ball up the pitch, especially now we don’t have a presence up front to go long too

    All the top league 1 teams have centre backs who are good on the ball. Stevenage are the exception but we’d have to rip everything up and start over to build a team like they have. We should be looking to emulate Bolton, Portsmouth, Oxford etc not Stevenage. If they can all find centre backs that are good on the ball and can defend then why can’t we? 
    Na don't apologise, I like seeing individual stats, cheers for sharing. Where did you get these from?

    Watching in person it looks to me like Jones is a lot more composed but of course, stats are stats. 

    I think you've answered your own question though tbf there fella, cause we are Charlton Athletic. We should in theory be able to, as we are bigger clubs than the likes of Oxford and Peterborough, unfortunately they have proper owners and ours are completely unproven.

    I'd love to see us have centre backs who can pass well and defend well who look ready to step up, unfortunately, hoping is all I've been able to do with this club for well over a decade now. 
  • sam3110 said:
    Probably thought he couldn't do worse than whatever the fuck AMB thought he was doing in the first half. I have to disagree with you here though, Hector was great on Saturday and when he's on form (as he has been the past couple of games) is good enough for a starting berth.


    If/when we sell CBT, the first 2 changes we need are a left footed centre back to play in a back 3 with Jones and Hector, and a big bruiser up top alongside May.

    However to seriously challenge in the second half of the season we need 4 new starters IMO, better than Thomas, Fraser, Tedic and a replacement for Camara. We also need another striker who can come on from the bench and try to influence games, especially with Aneke and Leaburn out

    AMB
    Hector Jones CB
    Watson Dobson CM Edun
    AM
    May ST

    Isted, Thomas, Asiimwe, Watson, Fraser, Kanu, ST

    Blackett-Taylor, Camara, Campbell, Abankwah, Walker and hopefully Kirk all out to pay for a lot of it and free up wages
    True on AMB, his decision making is bonkers at times, what was that all about in the first half where he tried to shield the ball and failed miserably? He can't give our defenders much confidence with some of his decision making.

    I will give them the benefit of the doubt at the time that a top keeper inspires the players infront of them and gives them more confidence. We don't have that sort of keeper right now unfortunately 
  • Na don't apologise, I like seeing individual stats, cheers for sharing. Where did you get these from?

    Watching in person it looks to me like Jones is a lot more composed but of course, stats are stats. 

    I think you've answered your own question though tbf there fella, cause we are Charlton Athletic. We should in theory be able to, as we are bigger clubs than the likes of Oxford and Peterborough, unfortunately they have proper owners and ours are completely unproven.

    I'd love to see us have centre backs who can pass well and defend well who look ready to step up, unfortunately, hoping is all I've been able to do with this club for well over a decade now. 
    Those stats are from a Twitter page @AnalyticsWba the link is on his pinned tweet. Really cool and free data on any player in the top 4 leagues and has a few seasons worth. Unfortunately the link is very temperamental and not working for me now when it was earlier today 
  • Watching that first half is a sobering experience, two teams full of energy with a clear style of play, we’re nowhere near
  • lolwray said:
    Can someone direct me to the rumours thread please? 
    Rumour has it Pompey and at least 10 other teams in this division make us look like Cray Valley Waah... Oh fuck yeh!



  • edited December 2023
    Southbank said:
    I fear it is Appleton knowing that he will not get the necessary players and getting his retailiation in first. 'It weren't me guv, it was the owners.'
    He’s been in the job ten minutes. Why would he risk putting his job in jeopardy by speaking out of turn ? The fans will know that if it’s a shitty transfer window it’s not down to Appleton. They’ll blame the money men. The only people Appleton would piss off by his outburst are his employers. I doubt he wants the sack just yet.
  • He’s been in the job ten minutes. Why would he risk putting his job in jeopardy by speaking out of turn ? The fans will know that if it’s a shitty transfer window it’s not down to Appleton. They’ll blame the money men. The only people Appleton would piss off by his outburst are his employers. I doubt he wants the sack just yet.
    If he's gonna get the sack for underachieving he may as well make his feelings known for the next prospective employer!

    Pay off either way!
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  • edited December 2023
    Perhaps he knows that we have some great targets lined up and wants the crowd on board until Jan. Until the end of the window we don't know. It might be a good one this time.... maybe
  • Exactly my thought process mate, I would simply build the team around May though purely due to how potent he is and being our player in the 'long' term. 

    CBT could be off and we are stuffed again. May needs a strike partner to build an understanding with.
    What if May leaves or gets injured this season? Kind of put all your eggs in one basket and messed it up with your thinking.
  • supaclive said:
    If he's gonna get the sack for underachieving he may as well make his feelings known for the next prospective employer!

    Pay off either way!
    I think he's put down a marker. If the squad doesn't materially improve, he knows he'll be toast sooner or later. By now he will have a good feel for whether the SMT are going to try for the material change or not and he's using that knowledge to chart his course. 

    If it's a 'not', he can swerve the lack of achievement and subsequent sacking by pointing to what he inherited and the lack of SMT 'support'.

    Personally I think it more likely he knows there is intent to upgrade the squad in the next 2 windows, he likes the recruitment conversations so far and is on board.

    Unlike him, we won't know whether that intent exists for another month or so.
  • shirty5 said:
    No surprise there. Could be a good player there in future, but he didn’t look better than our own young defenders to justify giving him a run of games. I think he needs regular game time at a club with lower expectations, whether that’s at this level or dropping down a division.
  • Hopefully will make us go after a CB too
  • I think he was talked up a lot when he joined and then failed to live up to that hype. Did that come from people that coached him before, scouts that watched him, or his agent? Whichever way it was, he was no better than playing Chin or Elerewe (both sent to non-League on loan) so on that basis it makes sense not to play him
  • edited December 2023
    Isaac Oloafe is a name that was mentioned to me, previously of Millwall and currently of Stockport. Very quick is about all I know. Would be a fee if it happens as he has 18 months left on his contract.
    Done very well this season, but Stockport are well backed and top of the league so I think the fee would be a pretty big one (especially if it’s in a January window) 

    Also plays in a front 2 or out wide so not sure he’d solve our current striker problem
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  • He's 24, 6' tall, from Loosham (bruv) and only signed for Stockport in Jan so has a year and a half left on his contract.

    Has a 1 in 2 record in the league this season, I can't see Stockport letting him go for peanuts seeing as they're top of the league right now 
  • Olafe I can't see Stockport even entertaining offers for unless it was in the millions. Key part of their promotion push so they won't want to lose him in January. 
  • edited December 2023
    NabySarr said:
    Done very well this season, but Stockport are well backed and top of the league so I think the fee would be a pretty big one (especially if it’s in a January window) 

    Also plays in a front 2 or out wide so not sure he’d solve our current striker problem
    12 goals in 21 is decent
  • lolwray said:
    Can someone direct me to the rumours thread please? 
    Top of the stairs, first on the right...🙄
  • NabySarr said:
    Looked like he was signed to play in a back 3, which we then stopped playing. A sign of the lack of joined up thinking from Scott so far and another poor signing for his record 
    Not sure how it's Scott's fault. He would have consulted with the manager first. It's not Scott's fault that the manager at the time lost it and got sacked, resulting in a new manager being appointed and a new formation being played
  • Yesterday I watched the Portsmouth v Bolton game. 
    Last season Portsmouth and Charlton had similar seasons. Finishing in similar positions.

    I am not sure what Portsmouth done in the summer, but they have certainly transformed themselves this season.

    Last night they were fantastic. Everyone played well.The midfield and the forwards were awesome.

    They had round pegs in round holes and a good mix of youth and experience.

    It shows that with a good manager, and a few good signings, a team can transform itself.

    Sadly I cannot see Charlton transforming.

    Everything seems wrong at Charlton. 

    Square pegs in round holes.
    Not enough experienced Pro’s, combined with far to many inexperienced youngsters. 

    Unless we copy teams like Portsmouth and Bolton, I fear that we are stuck in this god forsaken League for many years to come.
  • I thought the idea these days was you sign players to play a certain system and get a manager to play that system. Hence when a manager fails you just get another to play the same system and so there is no constant change of players. Therefore it’s Scott’s fault for getting in the wrong manager.
    Wasn't the manager appointed by sandgaard before Scott arrived?

    I can't remember the dates now and can't be bothered to look them up
  • Wasn't the manager appointed by sandgaard before Scott arrived?

    I can't remember the dates now and can't be bothered to look them up
    SE7 appointed Holden initially but Sandgaard kept him on. Holden started this season with Scott sourcing the players to play his system. SE7 sacked Holden but brought in Appleton, now playing a different system to Holden.
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