POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic Vs Oxford Utd : Monday 1st January 2024 : KO 15:00

PragueAddick said:

Callumcafc said:

Brown and Curbs saying they feel sympathy for Appleton - nothing going his way.

Yes but look what they said about not using Louie Watson. Strongest response so far to that question from people who need to be careful what they say on air. 

I can’t remember the last time a player was cold-shouldered in this way when both the vast majority of fans and the pro commentators were all baffled by it.

Today it was obvious that Anderson was tiring, and keeping him on will not have helped his development. It was completely irrational. 

I missed this, what did Brownie and Curbs say on it?

We can all forgive some players who at least try.. Take Alfie, no wonder he's done his back in it's because he's been carrying most of the squad.

Overall my take on today and the season so far.... Tennai had his best game  alongside Jones too.

Hector was better but there's always a cock up in him like the goal with being on the wrong side but I didn't think Edun did enough to close down the winger, in fact Edun for me is the weak link, he gives way too much space to the opposing player and couldn't close a shop door in my opinion.

CBT is a complete enigma, first half threatening, second half didn't come out.

Dobbo looks knackered and completely fed up and needs help in midfield but he may leave anyway. 

Kanu, Anderson and Tyreece need to go to League 2 like Aaron Henry.

Tedic needs to go back to City, LWatson is probably going back anyway and Chem probably should go back. 

So by my rough count we need at least 6 or 7 players in the hope that Alfie will be back soon along with McAmbles and Camera at the end of the month. I'm excluding Chucks as who knows when he's back and more importantly for how long. 

Apples has used all the excuses up and should be on the next bus along with Scotty as I wouldn't trust either of them with a pen let alone a cheque book. 

Give Pearce the baton for the remainder and let's see what happens. 

However, this is Charlton so it will be just three signings and all the buddies get to keep there jobs.

Not a brilliant time to be a fan.

AndyG said:

Appleton seems to have a very low bar in terms of expectations. Imo he played for a draw 20 mins from full time. We all knew how that was going to end ! 

For me the reason why I have lost any belief that Appleton can deliver promotion. 

Cupping his ears to the Boo Boys?

Bugger off Mickey, enjoy the pay off and hopefully the only time we see you again is when your .jpeg looms up on here in "fond" remembrance.

Shows how far we have fallen as I was, in a strange way, enjoying the game until the 70th minute.
It then dawned on me that I was enjoying it because I thought we were going to get soundly beaten by the mighty Oxford Utd but, here we were, holding our own against them.
How low have my expectations fallen?

Unfortunately, after 70 minutes it became obvious that Oxford had put in Duracell batteries compared to our Tesco unbranded ones.

LargeAddick said:

My only complaints were the non sensical subs. Thomas was an effort to protect a point and it immediately backfired and we are then chasing the game with a left footed centre half at right back with a right back on the bench. Then taking off CBT to bring on Casey, I mean WTF? Not a game to bring Casey on. Keep CBT up front and give that a go. Kanu didn't look as shattered as Anderson or Campbell so why not keep Kanu on and stick someone up top alongside him? And what has Watson done wrong? Shagged Apples missus? I don't care if he's going back tomorrow he should at least have come off the bench today, he is forward thinking and can pick out a pass. I thought the subs were all wrong. Apples got it wrong. He's got to go. I've zero faith in him getting us out of this league, ever.

Other than that I've no real complaints. Every one of them put in the required committment, busted every gut, tried their best but some are not good enough whilst others not experienced enough. The players were not to blame today.

There was a moment in second half when Tyreece Campbell ran chasing a ball with the grit and determination of an olympic 100m final sprinter which underlined that along with players like Watson and Jones smashing into tackles and throwing themselves in front of shots.

Can't fault the players today generally although Fraser's corner was abysmal when you're paid to play football.

Could tell with about 20 mins to go we weren't up for winning it whereas Oxford were.  A lack of confidence compounded by a lack of ability throughout the team.

Need a solid couple of windows to change things and make us competitive in this league.

Sad to say but I put a bet on us to lose 2-1 at 1 all - easiest money I've ever made 

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

LargeAddick said:

My only complaints were the non sensical subs. Thomas was an effort to protect a point and it immediately backfired and we are then chasing the game with a left footed centre half at right back with a right back on the bench. Then taking off CBT to bring on Casey, I mean WTF? Not a game to bring Casey on. Keep CBT up front and give that a go. Kanu didn't look as shattered as Anderson or Campbell so why not keep Kanu on and stick someone up top alongside him? And what has Watson done wrong? Shagged Apples missus? I don't care if he's going back tomorrow he should at least have come off the bench today, he is forward thinking and can pick out a pass. I thought the subs were all wrong. Apples got it wrong. He's got to go. I've zero faith in him getting us out of this league, ever.

Other than that I've no real complaints. Every one of them put in the required committment, busted every gut, tried their best but some are not good enough whilst others not experienced enough. The players were not to blame today.

There was a moment in second half when Tyreece Campbell ran chasing a ball with the grit and determination of an olympic 100m final sprinter which underlined that along with players like Watson and Jones smashing into tackles and throwing themselves in front of shots.

Can't fault the players today generally although Fraser's corner was abysmal when you're paid to play football.

Could tell with about 20 mins to go we weren't up for winning it whereas Oxford were.  A lack of confidence compounded by a lack of ability throughout the team.

Need a solid couple of windows to change things and make us competitive in this league.

Unfortunately this typified TC, great run, did loads of hard work and then ran it out for a goal kick. We have to be patient with him but his decision making at times is really naive 

LargeAddick said:

My only complaints were the non sensical subs. Thomas was an effort to protect a point and it immediately backfired and we are then chasing the game with a left footed centre half at right back with a right back on the bench. Then taking off CBT to bring on Casey, I mean WTF? Not a game to bring Casey on. Keep CBT up front and give that a go. Kanu didn't look as shattered as Anderson or Campbell so why not keep Kanu on and stick someone up top alongside him? And what has Watson done wrong? Shagged Apples missus? I don't care if he's going back tomorrow he should at least have come off the bench today, he is forward thinking and can pick out a pass. I thought the subs were all wrong. Apples got it wrong. He's got to go. I've zero faith in him getting us out of this league, ever.

Other than that I've no real complaints. Every one of them put in the required committment, busted every gut, tried their best but some are not good enough whilst others not experienced enough. The players were not to blame today.

SPOT ON 100 % this

I am now a fully paid up member of the Appleton Out Club. I have resisted for a long time because I feel that the constant churn of managers is problematic in itself and that we desperately need some stability. However we've got to have someone at least half decent in place before we stick, but it looks like we're nowhere near that, so I reckon it's time to twist again. I feel today that the starting XI probably did enough to earn a point, if not win the game. In fact, I think several of them put in their best performances for a month or more. Appleton then conspired to mess everything up with his ridiculous substitutions. Anderson and Tyreece Campbell were clearly knackered yet he kept them on until the end, bringing off players who were doing considerably better. That Louis Watson can't get a game ahead of either Anderson or Fraser absolutely beggars belief. And does he never learn that us going defensive is a sure signal for us to concede. I can't dispute that he's been unlucky with injuries, but like David Brent in the office, I don't want us working with unlucky people anymore: Time to bin him. 

The Prince-e-Paul said:

The owners, NOT Scott, need to decide whether they think Appleton is the man that can turn around the clubs fortunes. With that plan, significant more sums of money are required, such is the dire situation. Regardless of budget in this league, or reteric, the reality is that a wholesale squad and management change is needed, top down, if this slide is to be stopped. Whether the funds are available will become clearer very soon.

If we were a car, we've broken down on the M1 and all the other cars are passing us, whilst we wait for a tow truck. Even when it arrives major repairs will be needed, just to get moving again. Catching up with the rest is not possible. 

Completely disagree, why is Scott there ? I actually feel sorry for Appleton. All im going to say is look at Chris Powell, rejected Charlton out of hand and took a job with Sheffield Wednesday with a lunatic from Thailand at the helm. If that doesn't sum it up for you not sure what does.

simonmatthews said:

We're poor at set pieces, and try to "play" too much IMO. Would be easier, at this level, and with our players, to keep the ball in the other half as much as possible...IE stop trying to "play it out" from the goal-keeper and reduce the amount of intricate passing we seem prone to. I'm not so sure we need a different set of players, or a new manager, rather than a simpler, slightly less accident prone approach with what we have.

well said .. Man Citteee we ain't, our players are NOT even close to being good enough and we can't (or shouldn't) expect them to be .. Arsenal try the Pep approach and even a team as expensively assembled as them can't match the way the real experts play out successfully from the back

The 2 wasted corners in the dying minutes at 2-1 down, just about sums this team up. 

I honestly feel like he has wilfully cost us points by his bizarre treatment of Watson. There is no way Anderson should have played two full games in a row when he's clearly out of his depth. Fraser has become completely ineffective but kept playing him. He's obviously not a world beater, but I'm as good as certain that we'd have more points on the board had Watson started more games.
Added to the shit substitutions, playing players out of position, unwillingness to change formation and charisma of an amoeba, I want him gone. 

Croydon said:

https://twitter.com/BigBadBraz/status/1741873178450759978?t=C5BFvVzasTLs0OIsdFrhUw&s=19

How much time do we want to give their man??

Would need to see a different angle of it, but could AMB have done better with their goal? He looks to take an age to get over. 

Fraser actively moves out of the way to let him past. 

Fineable that.