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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,359
    edited January 2024
    DubaiCAFC said:
    NabySarr said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking. 

    I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.

    As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure! 

    As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over! 

    It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me! 
    Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity. 

    If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach 
    Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
    But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough. 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    edited January 2024
    ValleyBen said:
    Glad we are playing hardball with Dobson & CBT, would hate to be one of those silly clubs who actually negotiate to try to keep our best players.

    I agree - we should genuinely be moving heaven and earth to keep these two right now!   Unless we get 5 or 6 in beforehand and then we let them go.   It seems crazy that our best two players currently fit are being considered to be sold whilst we hovver 6 points above the relegation zone having only won 2 of our last 11......

    Charlton are too good to go down is what I can hear in the background.   Really?!   This side without May, Leaburn, Chuks, Dobson and CBT wouldn't win another game all season !!!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,602
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking. 

    I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.

    As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure! 

    As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over! 

    It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me! 
    You obviously get some useful info but so often it's given alongside you criticising Charlton fans for not liking this ownership and digging them out for wanting something different. I get that you're close to them in some way but it hasn't exactly been good so far has it? I'd love if we could have the rumours without the biased commentary alongside it.
    Don't think he's close to them, just useful for spreading their narrative.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,302
    Chunes said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    NabySarr said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking. 

    I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.

    As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure! 

    As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over! 

    It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me! 
    Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity. 

    If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach 
    Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
    But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough. 
    Scott and Appleton were very happy with it too until we started losing again so the party line changed as it couldn’t be their fault 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,339
    Without injuries it's a very decent squad, the problem is how many injury risks it contained in key positions 
  • I do love how people who have no idea of what conversations have gone on, and what has been offered, seem to have an understanding exactly what CBT and Dobson have been offered, what they are asking for and what they think they are worth.

    Maybe it’s just me, but I guess I’d like to know what sort of contact they have been offered and if they are even entertaining it before I jump to conclusions.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,269
    Chunes said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking. 

    I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.

    As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure! 

    As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over! 

    It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me! 
    Just win games. It's pretty simple. Currently failing.
    Told like it is Chunes, can't argue with that.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking. 

    I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.

    As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure! 

    As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over! 

    It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me! 
    You obviously get some useful info but so often it's given alongside you criticising Charlton fans for not liking this ownership and digging them out for wanting something different. I get that you're close to them in some way but it hasn't exactly been good so far has it? I'd love if we could have the rumours without the biased commentary alongside it.
    Fair enough, but we are writing things off before given a really opportunity. Yes, we have had it tough over the last 10 years or so.. but damage has been, and not allowing the owners the time isn’t going to help.. what’s the point of driving owners out with given them a really opportunity.

    Honestly, I understand the frustration, I am frustrated by our club, but what help is all the negativity, they haven’t actually done anything that bad right?? Some of the toxic I don’t think is that justified.

    I guess it is years upon years that is causing it, but fans need more patience 

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  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    If there's legs in the Coventry rumour then we'd have the following central midfield options, when all fit:

    - George Dobson
    - Panutche Camara
    - Scott Fraser
    - Terry Taylor
    - Conor McGrandles
    - Louie Watson
    - Karoy Anderson
    - Conor Coventry

    Eight is quite a lot! But, you'd potentially then say that 1) Watson is recalled; 2) Anderson isn't good enough; and maybe 3) Fraser goes. With Dobson and Camara not slated to be at the club beyond this season, we are left with Taylor, McGrandles, Coventry, and Anderson for 2024/25.

    My gut tells me this is not a position "of need" but then we need players all over the pitch to be remotely competitive. A slightly more convincing part of my gut, however, tells me that this - IF IT HAS LEGS - is a "replace Dobson before he goes" move. If that is the case... well, I wouldn't be surprised, but I would be a bit disappointed.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    Wrexham, Bolton or Charlton. I think we can move on from this one.
    Yup!   He's not joining us over those 2.   And therein lies our problem.
  • Slimeworth_McTavish
    edited January 2024
    Most of you (rightly) lambasted certain posters a few days ago for implying that being critical meant not being a proper fan. Now I don't share Dubai's views either but you can't have it both ways. They're one of the few that actually posts rumours and makes this thread interesting, and they're very entitled to their views on the ownership.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,182
    I hope we aren't putting all our eggs in one basket on this one. Feels like a transfer that could rumble on towards the end of the window before it gets resolved and it's not guaranteed he'll come to us. Meanwhile, we need a line leading striker pronto. And ideally we will have players in place that mean, by the time he is fit, there will be no pressure to have Aneke starting games otherwise we can anticipate he'll be out again after a handful of appearances.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    Dobson and Blackett- Taylor will get moved on this month and noises from the club will be, well we did offer them a good deal and they said no.

    Lose 2 of your best 3 players at the club, and then bring in replacements with that money who will take a while to get up to speed whilst we head into a tough February on paper and then possibly looking over our shoulders at the bottom 4 
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,172
    Can a mod please put an 's' on the end of the the thread title please,,,?  I think there is more than 1 rumour!
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Chunes said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    NabySarr said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking. 

    I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.

    As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure! 

    As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over! 

    It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me! 
    Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity. 

    If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach 
    Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
    But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough. 
    Yes, I was, along with 90% of the charlton fans, a lot were good signings on paper. But then, we have had a lot of injuries.

    And we signed the best goal scorer in the division, why wouldn’t you be happy with that? 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    edited January 2024
    It would be great if we retained Dobson and CBT but it’s pretty obvious that they both want out. No idea what’s  been offered to them but I doubt it’s not competitive. They are after all important players for us but if they can get better offers beyond ours and want out then now’s the time to usher them out the door when we can hopefully get a small fee for both. That’s the reality of football. We’ll no doubt be taking advantage of the same opportunities. If there’s truth in Coventry and JCH there’s two straight away. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,269
    Leuth said:
    Without injuries it's a very decent squad, the problem is how many injury risks it contained in key positions 
    I think that's the key points of failure to recruit properly in the summer. I think everyone one on this forum was reasonably happy with the recruitment of Taylor, Camara, Watson and Edun but its taken Watson and Edun nearly half a season to get fit and as for Taylor and Camara, there must have been question marks due to the length of time they had been out. But the real failing is not bringing in another forward with Alfie May. Was all this due to the takeover being delayed ? I'm not sure if that really stands up to scrutiny. 

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  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    The permanent downgrading of our club by a minority of fans is so frustrating, I am not saying it is easy, what deal is but the idea that it is ludicrous to even consider we can compete financially with another team in our division & a team in the league below.

    We should be seriously in the mix for JCH especially now we don't have that despicable Holden demanding we don't spend money anymore. 
  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,541
    Looking at the follower numbers and account activity I think we can put this tweet in the heavily unreliable source section. 
  • Are we signing the whole of Coventry?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,359
    edited January 2024
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Chunes said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    NabySarr said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking. 

    I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.

    As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure! 

    As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over! 

    It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me! 
    Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity. 

    If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach 
    Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
    But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough. 
    Yes, I was, along with 90% of the charlton fans, a lot were good signings on paper. But then, we have had a lot of injuries.

    And we signed the best goal scorer in the division, why wouldn’t you be happy with that? 
    To my memory, 90% of fans didn't think the squad was good enough, because I can remember the few that did. 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,522
    edited January 2024
    Get Coventry in and add him to our other top 6/ lower championship midfielders and go with a diamond:

                 Dobson
    McGrandles Coventry
                  Fraser 

    All four added together must equal one top 10 premier league midfielder, right....right?

  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    Feels like we are not many posts away from Dobson & CBT getting the Yann treatment. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,649
    ValleyBen said:
    Glad we are playing hardball with Dobson & CBT, would hate to be one of those silly clubs who actually negotiate to try to keep our best players.
    This.

    Dobson was our best player yesterday and Corey is second to Alfie in the scoring charts. Lose them both this month and we will be battling to stay IN this League this season, as I very much doubt their replacements will be better.
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Bailey said:
    Leuth said:
    Without injuries it's a very decent squad, the problem is how many injury risks it contained in key positions 
    I think that's the key points of failure to recruit properly in the summer. I think everyone one on this forum was reasonably happy with the recruitment of Taylor, Camara, Watson and Edun but its taken Watson and Edun nearly half a season to get fit and as for Taylor and Camara, there must have been question marks due to the length of time they had been out. But the real failing is not bringing in another forward with Alfie May. Was all this due to the takeover being delayed ? I'm not sure if that really stands up to scrutiny. 

    We did. Unfortunately that striker was Tedic.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    ValleyBen said:
    Glad we are playing hardball with Dobson & CBT, would hate to be one of those silly clubs who actually negotiate to try to keep our best players.
    This.

    Dobson was our best player yesterday and Corey is second to Alfie in the scoring charts. Lose them both this month and we will be battling to stay IN this League this season, as I very much doubt their replacements will be better.
    We're already saying Coventry is better than Dobson, without Coventry on the pitch, playing next to Anderson and Fraser !!!

    Give him THAT sack of shit to protect and maybe we'll find out just how good George Dobson is......
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    Chunes said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Chunes said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    NabySarr said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking. 

    I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.

    As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure! 

    As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over! 

    It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me! 
    Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity. 

    If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach 
    Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
    But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough. 
    Yes, I was, along with 90% of the charlton fans, a lot were good signings on paper. But then, we have had a lot of injuries.

    And we signed the best goal scorer in the division, why wouldn’t you be happy with that? 
    To my memory, 90% of fans didn't think the squad was good enough, because I can remember the few that did. 
    Many of us said the squad wasn't good enough and we get pelters for it every year.    But no way did 90% of posters say they were happy with the squad we ended up with !