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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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I think some of us are hoping for too much too soon. I would guess to sign good players takes time, first we have to agree a fee with his club, other clubs might have a similar agreement then we have to agree a contract with the player who might also be negotiating with other clubs. We all want new good players in asap but it just rarely happens that way, it is different if we are bringing in a player from a lower level but that is not what we or the club want, so patience please.2
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Two days ago you said Gillesphey, Coventry and JCH would be a good start. We've since also been linked to Docherty.Valley11 said:Anyone else feel totally non plussed by this window?Maybe it’s the last decade and particularly the last three years but I can’t get excited by the prospect of more jobbing footballers passing through SE7. JCH might be vaguely exciting.Perhaps it’s just that generally incremental sapping of enthusiasm for Charlton.What's changed in the last couple of days?1 -
Apologies I got my seasons wrong He played the season after for Shrewsbury and was their POTY.Sambcafc said:
Interesting and very impressive from him considering he didn’t play in either leg of the playoffs 😂😂😂Richard J said:The calibre of target seems good.
Imho Docherty was one of the main reasons Shrewsbury edged us out in the playoffs a few years ago.
I guess he will be tempted if we offered a decent contract for next season.
Likewise Conor Coventry may want regular football to get his career going.
Would like both of them if possible.
some people do make up some rubbish
I remember being impressed by him and hoping that we would sign him when Bowyer tried to a year or so later.1 -
We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....5
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It would be good in terms of bodies in. Are they better than what we have? I’ve no idea.Callumcafc said:
Two days ago you said Gillesphey, Coventry and JCH would be a good start. We've since also been linked to Docherty.Valley11 said:Anyone else feel totally non plussed by this window?Maybe it’s the last decade and particularly the last three years but I can’t get excited by the prospect of more jobbing footballers passing through SE7. JCH might be vaguely exciting.Perhaps it’s just that generally incremental sapping of enthusiasm for Charlton.What's changed in the last couple of days?What’s changed? Nothing, purely some reflection on the merry go round of middle of the road footballers who have passed through The Valley in the last ten years.0 -
True..Garrymanilow said:
I agree with you, though what I would say is that I haven't seen Jones quite hit the heights that Inniss did at the very start of his time with us. When he arrived, right before his first injury Inniss looked like a Championship defender in waiting if he could just stay fit. There was that 5 game run where we didn't concede and it felt a little bit like we never would again. It was only when the Inniss/Famewo partnership was broken up and we didn't have another centre back to pair him with that we started to look capable of letting one in. Of the 13 games he played that season we only lost 1 and 7 of them were clean sheets. He was pretty poor the next season though along with Famewo when he came back, I think if we'd had the initial pre-injury versions of both those players for the whole 20/21 season we would have got promoted without too much trouble.NabySarr said:
Jones is absolutely miles better than Inniss. Inniss is better in the air but other than that Jones is better at pretty much everything elseValleyBen said:I am also not convinced Jones is a significant improvement on Innis currently.
Although like May, Jones even if you do rate him is not a signing by Scott if he gets a free pass for last January.0 -
AmpshireAddick said:
To be fair to Edun, he is left completely exposed by CBT infront of him who 9 times out of 10 refuses to track back or apply any pressure or tackle/mark anyone coming down that side.. not saying you’re wrong necessarily but there’s certainly been flashes of decent play from Edun, enough to make me believe there is a player in there somewhere.J BLOCK said:
He essentially plays as a wingback for us.KingKinsella said:
Edun said he was a midfielder persuaded to play at LB by MA at another club (the promo video that the club put out). I think he is a skilful player without the defensive instincts, with more than a hand in our current defensive errors in losing run starting at Gills. Quick-ish but small and slightly lightweight. Maybe better as a wingback at this level .Scoham said:
I wouldn’t write off Watson or Edun improving yet. Getting them proper competition would be a good start. With Asiimwe and Thomas backing them up they know they’ll start the majority of the time. We also need to strengthen the spine of the team so they can spend more time on the ball and going forward and take some pressure off them defensively.Covered_End_Lad said:I think Jones is more than capable of playing in a promotion winning league one side. The problem is the rest of the defenders around him.I’ve seen nothing from him to suggest he is good going forward, let’s not even start on his defensive qualities which seem non existent.Obviously CBT is probably too important to drop with the assists and goals he provides but maybe with a more balanced winger or one that will defend a little more we may see a better version of Edun.
Fair pointAmpshireAddick said:
To be fair to Edun, he is left completely exposed by CBT infront of him who 9 times out of 10 refuses to track back or apply any pressure or tackle/mark anyone coming down that side.. not saying you’re wrong necessarily but there’s certainly been flashes of decent play from Edun, enough to make me believe there is a player in there somewhere.J BLOCK said:
He essentially plays as a wingback for us.KingKinsella said:
Edun said he was a midfielder persuaded to play at LB by MA at another club (the promo video that the club put out). I think he is a skilful player without the defensive instincts, with more than a hand in our current defensive errors in losing run starting at Gills. Quick-ish but small and slightly lightweight. Maybe better as a wingback at this level .Scoham said:
I wouldn’t write off Watson or Edun improving yet. Getting them proper competition would be a good start. With Asiimwe and Thomas backing them up they know they’ll start the majority of the time. We also need to strengthen the spine of the team so they can spend more time on the ball and going forward and take some pressure off them defensively.Covered_End_Lad said:I think Jones is more than capable of playing in a promotion winning league one side. The problem is the rest of the defenders around him.I’ve seen nothing from him to suggest he is good going forward, let’s not even start on his defensive qualities which seem non existent.Obviously CBT is probably too important to drop with the assists and goals he provides but maybe with a more balanced winger or one that will defend a little more we may see a better version of Edun.1 -
Did Dizzy sign a medical?1
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Just had a message from someone who reckons he's itk @ West Ham , that we are in for Coventry, make of that what you will , didn't mention Alfie May though.6
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Fair enough - didn’t mean to be antagonistic.Valley11 said:
It would be good in terms of bodies in. Are they better than what we have? I’ve no idea.Callumcafc said:
Two days ago you said Gillesphey, Coventry and JCH would be a good start. We've since also been linked to Docherty.Valley11 said:Anyone else feel totally non plussed by this window?Maybe it’s the last decade and particularly the last three years but I can’t get excited by the prospect of more jobbing footballers passing through SE7. JCH might be vaguely exciting.Perhaps it’s just that generally incremental sapping of enthusiasm for Charlton.What's changed in the last couple of days?What’s changed? Nothing, purely some reflection on the merry go round of middle of the road footballers who have passed through The Valley in the last ten years.
Agree that we don’t really know if anyone we’re linked with (JCH aside, mainly because of injuries right now) would be a guaranteed upgrade on what we currently have.
That said, I definitely think the likes of Gillesphey, Coventry and Docherty are definitely the right type of names for a club like ours. I have hopes that Coventry and Docherty for instance would both be good enough to keep Dobson out of the team, let alone our other midfielders.That’s not a guarantee that they will be, I hoped the same for Fraser and McGrandles and Taylor and Camara and each has so far struggled for different reasons.5 -
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How many signed today then?2
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On the flip side of the four I mentioned, I also hoped the same for Alfie May and Lloyd Jones this past window and they’ve worked out quite well so far.Callumcafc said:
Fair enough - didn’t mean to be antagonistic.Valley11 said:
It would be good in terms of bodies in. Are they better than what we have? I’ve no idea.Callumcafc said:
Two days ago you said Gillesphey, Coventry and JCH would be a good start. We've since also been linked to Docherty.Valley11 said:Anyone else feel totally non plussed by this window?Maybe it’s the last decade and particularly the last three years but I can’t get excited by the prospect of more jobbing footballers passing through SE7. JCH might be vaguely exciting.Perhaps it’s just that generally incremental sapping of enthusiasm for Charlton.What's changed in the last couple of days?What’s changed? Nothing, purely some reflection on the merry go round of middle of the road footballers who have passed through The Valley in the last ten years.
Agree that we don’t really know if anyone we’re linked with (JCH aside, mainly because of injuries right now) would be a guaranteed upgrade on what we currently have.
That said, I definitely think the likes of Gillesphey, Coventry and Docherty are definitely the right type of names for a club like ours. I have hopes that Coventry and Docherty for instance would both be good enough to keep Dobson out of the team, let alone our other midfielders.That’s not a guarantee that they will be, I hoped the same for Fraser and McGrandles and Taylor and Camara and each has so far struggled for different reasons.As a Charlton fan all you can do is hope for the best and anticipate the worst. :-)2 -
There's a striker at Dundee united who scored a hat trick on his 30th birthday, last week and at long last has got his shit together.
One of the better poster on CL🤔 used to call him Tony magic feet Watt.
Unfortunately the younger Watt was as mad as a box of frogs but this mature version is a clean living dedicated professional.
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Jed Steer has joined Peterborough0
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Were we not told that we were going to hit the ground running and get people in early. Appleton said there were a couple good to go did he not. And you don’t have to wait till the window opens to make offers to clubs, agree fees, have discussions with agents etc.lancashire lad said:I think some of us are hoping for too much too soon. I would guess to sign good players takes time, first we have to agree a fee with his club, other clubs might have a similar agreement then we have to agree a contract with the player who might also be negotiating with other clubs. We all want new good players in asap but it just rarely happens that way, it is different if we are bringing in a player from a lower level but that is not what we or the club want, so patience please.6 -
He's played five games since 2018-19.Richard J said:Jed Steer has joined Peterborough
You watch he'll go on to keep the most clean sheets in the Division for the rest of the season now
Had we signed him, he'd have been on the treatment table for the rest of the season!!3 -
I really haven't bothered much with this thread this week as I didn't think much would happen for the first few days.ct_addick said:We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....
I believe the window shuts 4 weeks today, 11pm on Thursday 1st Feb, so there is still plenty of time to bring in recruits.
However, we currently have no fit senior strikers & if Alfie May doesnt recover in time for Saturday we could see ourselves going into another match with just Kanu as a lone striker (with Casey on the bench). It may be the case that we are all resigned to the fact that the play-offs are out of reach but the bottom 4 places aren't. The more games we play with little or no striking options the more games we wont win.
Signing a striker is really one of the first pieces of transfer business we should be doing. If the club think we can muddle through until Aneke is back then they are seriously deluded.10 -
Using this again. Nothing has changed my opinion, PLEASE change my opinion.
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Where as I agree and want a striker in as soon as possible, you always over simplify the process.golfaddick said:
I really haven't bothered much with this thread this week as I didn't think much would happen for the first few days.ct_addick said:We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....
I believe the window shuts 4 weeks today, 11pm on Thursday 1st Feb, so there is still plenty of time to bring in recruits.
However, we currently have no fit senior strikers & if Alfie May doesnt recover in time for Saturday we could see ourselves going into another match with just Kanu as a lone striker (with Casey on the bench). It may be the case that we are all resigned to the fact that the play-offs are out of reach but the bottom 4 places aren't. The more games we play with little or no striking options the more games we wont win.
Signing a striker is really one of the first pieces of transfer business we should be doing. If the club think we can muddle through until Aneke is back then they are seriously deluded.
We have a budget, and it is not going to be bottomless. We also know there are plenty of areas of squad that need improvement.
With that budget we know we after JCH who I think in my own personal opinion is elite at this level.I am sure currently Darren MacAnthony is wanting people to pay over the odds for him.
Are you risking missing out on JCH for a striker who is not as proven at this level, or paying over the odds for JCH and having less budget to buy your first choice defensive options, and area where we are weaker.
Or do you think ‘they should just spend more money’ - which for me is just always a poor argument - especially if they are spending any - which seems like they will be.0 -
Anyway, Terry Taylor will be like a new signing when he comes back.22
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Depends on how much extra you think we need to pay to get JCH over the line now. From what I've read (and I always take these things with a pinch of salt) we are offering c£400k and Peterborough want more (but less than the £800k they paid for him).FishCostaFortune said:
Where as I agree and want a striker in as soon as possible, you always over simplify the process.golfaddick said:
I really haven't bothered much with this thread this week as I didn't think much would happen for the first few days.ct_addick said:We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....
I believe the window shuts 4 weeks today, 11pm on Thursday 1st Feb, so there is still plenty of time to bring in recruits.
However, we currently have no fit senior strikers & if Alfie May doesnt recover in time for Saturday we could see ourselves going into another match with just Kanu as a lone striker (with Casey on the bench). It may be the case that we are all resigned to the fact that the play-offs are out of reach but the bottom 4 places aren't. The more games we play with little or no striking options the more games we wont win.
Signing a striker is really one of the first pieces of transfer business we should be doing. If the club think we can muddle through until Aneke is back then they are seriously deluded.
We have a budget, and it is not going to be bottomless. We also know there are plenty of areas of squad that need improvement.
With that budget we know we after JCH who I think in my own personal opinion is elite at this level.I am sure currently Darren MacAnthony is wanting people to pay over the odds for him.
Are you risking missing out on JCH for a striker who is not as proven at this level, or paying over the odds for JCH and having less budget to buy your first choice defensive options, and area where we are weaker.
Or do you think ‘they should just spend more money’ - which for me is just always a poor argument - especially if they are spending any - which seems like they will be.
So......settle on £600k & be done with it.
The £200k might be the difference between League 1 football next season or League 2.
FWIW.....I see Carlisle (bottom of the table) have signed 2 players today - 1 a striker. No idea if the striker is any good (but coming from Ireland I'll very much doubt he is better than JCH) but I also doubt they have the money or clout we do - although just been taken over they might have a few pounds to spend. My point being......they dont want to go down so are doing what they see as their best way of staying up. We have to do the same.6 -
Don't worry our premier league loan Tedic will be back on Saturday going to ground and rolling around on the floor at every opportunity.golfaddick said:
I really haven't bothered much with this thread this week as I didn't think much would happen for the first few days.ct_addick said:We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....
I believe the window shuts 4 weeks today, 11pm on Thursday 1st Feb, so there is still plenty of time to bring in recruits.
However, we currently have no fit senior strikers & if Alfie May doesnt recover in time for Saturday we could see ourselves going into another match with just Kanu as a lone striker (with Casey on the bench). It may be the case that we are all resigned to the fact that the play-offs are out of reach but the bottom 4 places aren't. The more games we play with little or no striking options the more games we wont win.
Signing a striker is really one of the first pieces of transfer business we should be doing. If the club think we can muddle through until Aneke is back then they are seriously deluded.
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Every year people get over-dramatic and have a meltdown that we are going down, we never get close. Even if we drop further down then a change in manager usually does the trickgolfaddick said:
Depends on how much extra you think we need to pay to get JCH over the line now. From what I've read (and I always take these things with a pinch of salt) we are offering c£400k and Peterborough want more (but less than the £800k they paid for him).FishCostaFortune said:
Where as I agree and want a striker in as soon as possible, you always over simplify the process.golfaddick said:
I really haven't bothered much with this thread this week as I didn't think much would happen for the first few days.ct_addick said:We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....
I believe the window shuts 4 weeks today, 11pm on Thursday 1st Feb, so there is still plenty of time to bring in recruits.
However, we currently have no fit senior strikers & if Alfie May doesnt recover in time for Saturday we could see ourselves going into another match with just Kanu as a lone striker (with Casey on the bench). It may be the case that we are all resigned to the fact that the play-offs are out of reach but the bottom 4 places aren't. The more games we play with little or no striking options the more games we wont win.
Signing a striker is really one of the first pieces of transfer business we should be doing. If the club think we can muddle through until Aneke is back then they are seriously deluded.
We have a budget, and it is not going to be bottomless. We also know there are plenty of areas of squad that need improvement.
With that budget we know we after JCH who I think in my own personal opinion is elite at this level.I am sure currently Darren MacAnthony is wanting people to pay over the odds for him.
Are you risking missing out on JCH for a striker who is not as proven at this level, or paying over the odds for JCH and having less budget to buy your first choice defensive options, and area where we are weaker.
Or do you think ‘they should just spend more money’ - which for me is just always a poor argument - especially if they are spending any - which seems like they will be.
So......settle on £600k & be done with it.
The £200k might be the difference between League 1 football next season or League 2.
FWIW.....I see Carlisle (bottom of the table) have signed 2 players today - 1 a striker. No idea if the striker is any good (but coming from Ireland I'll very much doubt he is better than JCH) but I also doubt they have the money or clout we do - although just been taken over they might have a few pounds to spend. My point being......they dont want to go down so are doing what they see as their best way of staying up. We have to do the same.We aren’t going down, signings should be with next season in mind. If Peterborough are taking the piss on JCH (they probably are, at least until after we play them) then wait and get him cheaper later this month6 -
Lose to Port Vale & lose to Peterborough I doubt if JCH will want to sign for us. Might not be in a relegation scrap but playing the next 4 months just to finish above mid table is not a good prospect for lots of players.NabySarr said:
Every year people get over-dramatic and have a meltdown that we are going down, we never get close. Even if we drop further down then a change in manager usually does the trickgolfaddick said:
Depends on how much extra you think we need to pay to get JCH over the line now. From what I've read (and I always take these things with a pinch of salt) we are offering c£400k and Peterborough want more (but less than the £800k they paid for him).FishCostaFortune said:
Where as I agree and want a striker in as soon as possible, you always over simplify the process.golfaddick said:
I really haven't bothered much with this thread this week as I didn't think much would happen for the first few days.ct_addick said:We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....
I believe the window shuts 4 weeks today, 11pm on Thursday 1st Feb, so there is still plenty of time to bring in recruits.
However, we currently have no fit senior strikers & if Alfie May doesnt recover in time for Saturday we could see ourselves going into another match with just Kanu as a lone striker (with Casey on the bench). It may be the case that we are all resigned to the fact that the play-offs are out of reach but the bottom 4 places aren't. The more games we play with little or no striking options the more games we wont win.
Signing a striker is really one of the first pieces of transfer business we should be doing. If the club think we can muddle through until Aneke is back then they are seriously deluded.
We have a budget, and it is not going to be bottomless. We also know there are plenty of areas of squad that need improvement.
With that budget we know we after JCH who I think in my own personal opinion is elite at this level.I am sure currently Darren MacAnthony is wanting people to pay over the odds for him.
Are you risking missing out on JCH for a striker who is not as proven at this level, or paying over the odds for JCH and having less budget to buy your first choice defensive options, and area where we are weaker.
Or do you think ‘they should just spend more money’ - which for me is just always a poor argument - especially if they are spending any - which seems like they will be.
So......settle on £600k & be done with it.
The £200k might be the difference between League 1 football next season or League 2.
FWIW.....I see Carlisle (bottom of the table) have signed 2 players today - 1 a striker. No idea if the striker is any good (but coming from Ireland I'll very much doubt he is better than JCH) but I also doubt they have the money or clout we do - although just been taken over they might have a few pounds to spend. My point being......they dont want to go down so are doing what they see as their best way of staying up. We have to do the same.We aren’t going down, signings should be with next season in mind. If Peterborough are taking the piss on JCH (they probably are, at least until after we play them) then wait and get him cheaper later this month
Might also be a reason why we've not had many strong rumours of other players joining. Would YOU want to join Charlton atm ? Maybe in the summer when you can see where the club finished......but now ?3 -
I have just remembered that at the end of the summer window I said "we might lack quality but we do have depth in most positions" turns out I know nothing about football. No quality and no depth.6
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I think players will follow £s and whatever vision is shared with them. If JCH was offered better wages and an outline of X,Y,Z players coming through the door this window and next, suspect that would be enough. I think things are different at Premier League or top division football across the globe, but we are now in journeymen territory, other than one or two youngsters who may develop into stars in due course.golfaddick said:
Lose to Port Vale & lose to Peterborough I doubt if JCH will want to sign for us. Might not be in a relegation scrap but playing the next 4 months just to finish above mid table is not a good prospect for lots of players.NabySarr said:
Every year people get over-dramatic and have a meltdown that we are going down, we never get close. Even if we drop further down then a change in manager usually does the trickgolfaddick said:
Depends on how much extra you think we need to pay to get JCH over the line now. From what I've read (and I always take these things with a pinch of salt) we are offering c£400k and Peterborough want more (but less than the £800k they paid for him).FishCostaFortune said:
Where as I agree and want a striker in as soon as possible, you always over simplify the process.golfaddick said:
I really haven't bothered much with this thread this week as I didn't think much would happen for the first few days.ct_addick said:We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....
I believe the window shuts 4 weeks today, 11pm on Thursday 1st Feb, so there is still plenty of time to bring in recruits.
However, we currently have no fit senior strikers & if Alfie May doesnt recover in time for Saturday we could see ourselves going into another match with just Kanu as a lone striker (with Casey on the bench). It may be the case that we are all resigned to the fact that the play-offs are out of reach but the bottom 4 places aren't. The more games we play with little or no striking options the more games we wont win.
Signing a striker is really one of the first pieces of transfer business we should be doing. If the club think we can muddle through until Aneke is back then they are seriously deluded.
We have a budget, and it is not going to be bottomless. We also know there are plenty of areas of squad that need improvement.
With that budget we know we after JCH who I think in my own personal opinion is elite at this level.I am sure currently Darren MacAnthony is wanting people to pay over the odds for him.
Are you risking missing out on JCH for a striker who is not as proven at this level, or paying over the odds for JCH and having less budget to buy your first choice defensive options, and area where we are weaker.
Or do you think ‘they should just spend more money’ - which for me is just always a poor argument - especially if they are spending any - which seems like they will be.
So......settle on £600k & be done with it.
The £200k might be the difference between League 1 football next season or League 2.
FWIW.....I see Carlisle (bottom of the table) have signed 2 players today - 1 a striker. No idea if the striker is any good (but coming from Ireland I'll very much doubt he is better than JCH) but I also doubt they have the money or clout we do - although just been taken over they might have a few pounds to spend. My point being......they dont want to go down so are doing what they see as their best way of staying up. We have to do the same.We aren’t going down, signings should be with next season in mind. If Peterborough are taking the piss on JCH (they probably are, at least until after we play them) then wait and get him cheaper later this month
Might also be a reason why we've not had many strong rumours of other players joining. Would YOU want to join Charlton atm ? Maybe in the summer when you can see where the club finished......but now ?
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If we new anything about football we wouldn't be supporting Charlton, Canters!cantersaddick said:I have just remembered that at the end of the summer window I said "we might lack quality but we do have depth in most positions" turns out I know nothing about football. No quality and no depth.6 -
None of the links so far have impressed me bar JCH who I suspect we won't shell out for and Docherty could be a coup but again I don't see it. JCH could be formidable with May and Docherty is your very box-to-box type. Would make a great partner with Dobbo assuming the captain stays.
Coventry I really am not sure about, don't know enough/haven't watched him enough. I've seen a lot of people mention his MK Dons performance, but we are pants and I've seen loads of players do well against us and not light the pitch up in other games. Especially towards the end of Jackos tenure where we genuinely looked useless.
One signing I definitely don't like the sound of is Gillesphey which is probably the one who is a goer out of the lot. We have made the mistake too many times of taking other clubs bit part players who are struggling with injuries in particular. This screams of that. I've seen Plymouth fans annoyed when he allegedly failed the medical and saying 'more bad luck' and seen some pretty in-depth reports on him.
Basically sounds like he has no pace (which we struggle with as is) isn't particularly strong or an aerial threat but his main strength is he can ping a ball and in a back 3 he is dependable. We don't play a back 3 and as much as I give him grief, we already have Hector who can ping a ball to all of our non-physical forwards.
Just sounds like an on the cheap window again, especially if we can't get JCH who is proven and does what he says on the tin and we now know is realistic.
There are quality players in this league and below, why are we going for the ones who are out of favour at their current clubs or coming back from injuries? Same old Charlton for me5
