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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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Scoham said:Braziliance said:None of the links so far have impressed me bar JCH who I suspect we won't shell out for and Docherty could be a coup but again I don't see it. JCH could be formidable with May and Docherty is your very box-to-box type. Would make a great partner with Dobbo assuming the captain stays.
Coventry I really am not sure about, don't know enough/haven't watched him enough. I've seen a lot of people mention his MK Dons performance, but we are pants and I've seen loads of players do well against us and not light the pitch up in other games. Especially towards the end of Jackos tenure where we genuinely looked useless.
One signing I definitely don't like the sound of is Gillesphey which is probably the one who is a goer out of the lot. We have made the mistake too many times of taking other clubs bit part players who are struggling with injuries in particular. This screams of that. I've seen Plymouth fans annoyed when he allegedly failed the medical and saying 'more bad luck' and seen some pretty in-depth reports on him.
Basically sounds like he has no pace (which we struggle with as is) isn't particularly strong or an aerial threat but his main strength is he can ping a ball and in a back 3 he is dependable. We don't play a back 3 and as much as I give him grief, we already have Hector who can ping a ball to all of our non-physical forwards.
Just sounds like an on the cheap window again, especially if we can't get JCH who is proven and does what he says on the tin and we now know is realistic.
There are quality players in this league and below, why are we going for the ones who are out of favour at their current clubs or coming back from injuries? Same old Charlton for me
All four would cost a fee rather than being free agents and loanees. Too early to say if it’s same old, nothing has happened yet but they’d be more promising than Bonne on a free, Penney and Kane on loan etc that we saw last year.
Brad Halliday at right back from Bradford, way better than what we have, out of contract in the summer, tough player where we are lacking in the types.
Ben Garrity from Port Vale, 12 goals and assists combined this season, high aerial threat which we lack in midfield, big unit. (Lose count how many aerial fights we lose in the middle of the park)
Jack Currie left back at Wimbledon, more promise than Tayo.
Fraser Horsfall of Stockport County, good passer of the ball and a good defender to go along with it
Davis Keillor-Dunn and Dan Crowley of Mansfield and Notts County are putting up fantastic numbers where we lack creativity in the middle
Jonson Clarke-Harris is a superb signing for any club at this level and gets into most sides.
Stephen Humphrys of Wigan is a cracking player than can play across the forward line. Aaron Collins of Bristol Rovers could offer the same just not as physical.
Charlie Hughes at Wigan is a decent centre back and only 20. Probably out of our range.
Way more, there's so many good players in this league and the league below. I can look at any team in this league pretty much and spot out players who make it into our bench or straight into our starting XI. Most teams in this league would only want a handful at most from our squad and we are in danger of losing 2 out of the 4 I actually rate.
Everyone I've said costs money which again is the biggest factor, we only really go for the players no one else seems to want typically speaking.
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NabySarr said:Loans are pointless at this stage. Unless there’s a permanent deal option included which there could be on this
Would prefer Coventry or Docherty to Bakinson though1 -
Braziliance said:Well, proof will be in the pudding then chaps.Signed, an old Boomer.9
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Loaning someone with 6 months left on their contract could be long term thinking though0
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Braziliance said:Scoham said:Braziliance said:None of the links so far have impressed me bar JCH who I suspect we won't shell out for and Docherty could be a coup but again I don't see it. JCH could be formidable with May and Docherty is your very box-to-box type. Would make a great partner with Dobbo assuming the captain stays.
Coventry I really am not sure about, don't know enough/haven't watched him enough. I've seen a lot of people mention his MK Dons performance, but we are pants and I've seen loads of players do well against us and not light the pitch up in other games. Especially towards the end of Jackos tenure where we genuinely looked useless.
One signing I definitely don't like the sound of is Gillesphey which is probably the one who is a goer out of the lot. We have made the mistake too many times of taking other clubs bit part players who are struggling with injuries in particular. This screams of that. I've seen Plymouth fans annoyed when he allegedly failed the medical and saying 'more bad luck' and seen some pretty in-depth reports on him.
Basically sounds like he has no pace (which we struggle with as is) isn't particularly strong or an aerial threat but his main strength is he can ping a ball and in a back 3 he is dependable. We don't play a back 3 and as much as I give him grief, we already have Hector who can ping a ball to all of our non-physical forwards.
Just sounds like an on the cheap window again, especially if we can't get JCH who is proven and does what he says on the tin and we now know is realistic.
There are quality players in this league and below, why are we going for the ones who are out of favour at their current clubs or coming back from injuries? Same old Charlton for me
All four would cost a fee rather than being free agents and loanees. Too early to say if it’s same old, nothing has happened yet but they’d be more promising than Bonne on a free, Penney and Kane on loan etc that we saw last year.
Brad Halliday at right back from Bradford, way better than what we have, out of contract in the summer, tough player where we are lacking in the types.
Ben Garrity from Port Vale, 12 goals and assists combined this season, high aerial threat which we lack in midfield, big unit. (Lose count how many aerial fights we lose in the middle of the park)
Jack Currie left back at Wimbledon, more promise than Tayo.
Fraser Horsfall of Stockport County, good passer of the ball and a good defender to go along with it
Davis Keillor-Dunn and Dan Crowley of Mansfield and Notts County are putting up fantastic numbers where we lack creativity in the middle
Jonson Clarke-Harris is a superb signing for any club at this level and gets into most sides.
Stephen Humphrys of Wigan is a cracking player than can play across the forward line. Aaron Collins of Bristol Rovers could offer the same just not as physical.
Charlie Hughes at Wigan is a decent centre back and only 20. Probably out of our range.
Way more, there's so many good players in this league and the league below. I can look at any team in this league pretty much and spot out players who make it into our bench or straight into our starting XI. Most teams in this league would only want a handful at most from our squad and we are in danger of losing 2 out of the 4 I actually rate.
Everyone I've said costs money which again is the biggest factor, we only really go for the players no one else seems to want typically speaking.Keilor-Dunn and Crowley do well in league 2 but haven’t done well at this level when they’ve played it before. We’ve seen before there are risks there (Payne, Kirk, Lavelle etc), there is a big jump in quality between bottom L1/top L2 and the top 8 in league 1
Horsfall and Collins I don’t think would be easy to buy at all. Would probably be inflated prices
I think Moxon would be a great signing and I’d be happy with him. But I also think Coventry and Docherty are both better players.
We are looking at JCH, Humphrys already. All the rumours so far point at us being on the right track in terms of who we are looking at. But looking at them and signing them are obviously very different.1 -
Already gone from full of potential on the way up Coventry to injury prone on the way down Bakinson. Not saying any of this is fact and perhaps we sign both or neither of them, but this feels familiar0
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All points to Gillesphy, JCH and 2-3 others being announced tomorrow to leave Port Vale rushing about at the last minute to figure out our new all stars team. Clever.11
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sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything5
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king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything2
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charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything
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charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything
I have no idea how this transfer window will play out but I do know after 4 days of it being open, we were never going to have major signings just yet. Chequered history or not.3 -
Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:NabySarr said:Braziliance said:None of the links so far have impressed me bar JCH who I suspect we won't shell out for and Docherty could be a coup but again I don't see it. JCH could be formidable with May and Docherty is your very box-to-box type. Would make a great partner with Dobbo assuming the captain stays.
Coventry I really am not sure about, don't know enough/haven't watched him enough. I've seen a lot of people mention his MK Dons performance, but we are pants and I've seen loads of players do well against us and not light the pitch up in other games. Especially towards the end of Jackos tenure where we genuinely looked useless.
One signing I definitely don't like the sound of is Gillesphey which is probably the one who is a goer out of the lot. We have made the mistake too many times of taking other clubs bit part players who are struggling with injuries in particular. This screams of that. I've seen Plymouth fans annoyed when he allegedly failed the medical and saying 'more bad luck' and seen some pretty in-depth reports on him.
Basically sounds like he has no pace (which we struggle with as is) isn't particularly strong or an aerial threat but his main strength is he can ping a ball and in a back 3 he is dependable. We don't play a back 3 and as much as I give him grief, we already have Hector who can ping a ball to all of our non-physical forwards.
Just sounds like an on the cheap window again, especially if we can't get JCH who is proven and does what he says on the tin and we now know is realistic.
There are quality players in this league and below, why are we going for the ones who are out of favour at their current clubs or coming back from injuries? Same old Charlton for me
There is nothing wrong with signing players from leagues above, in fact it should be encouraged surely? Better than the likes of Jaiyesimi, Payne, Egbo, Kirk, Lavelle etc that we’ve signed from Leagues 1 & 2. The best L1/L2 players cost millions nowadays, we can’t afford that. Better players for better value exist in championship squads
Signings from this league = just because he played well against us doesn’t mean anything, probably wants more than we’re willing to pay
Signings from league below = never going to make the step up, won’t want a big wage
These are the conclusions you can draw when you have a pre-determined outcome in your head.
Can be optimistic all you like, I've seen enough to have the other view. Until things change at the club I don't believe they should get the easy ride they get.
I did multiple wagers at the start of the season involving where we finish, how many signings we make and on Appleton, fortunately but more so unfortunately, my money is safe as houses.
I expect more of the same drivel being put out this window and us not making the dent on the market they are claiming they are going to. I hope more than you seem to realise that I am very wide of the mark with this view.
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The window opening means deals can crystallise and moves happen but surely negotiations etc can happen beforehand between buyer, seller and players and then it's just a case of medical then rubber stamping and completing when window opens?
So I've never understood why it all gets done last minute or so late on in the window if the players have already been identified.
Surely we've approached clubs and players for preliminary discussions well before 1 Jan when it's been clear for months how inadequate the current squad is.
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FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything25
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FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything1
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It's the same for nearly all clubs in every window.
We want a player, might agree a deal but the selling club want to find a replacement before they let the player leave. Because chances are we're trying to sign one of their better players. They may find a replacement, the deal goes through, they don't find a replacement the deals off.
I've already seen posts on here saying if Dobbo and CBT are going we've got to sign replacements first.
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Anyone got a house buying analogy to help explain the complex process?
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DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything6
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fenlandaddick said:Anyone got a house buying analogy to help explain the complex process?0
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southamptonaddick said:fenlandaddick said:Anyone got a house buying analogy to help explain the complex process?
Just don't talk about gazumping
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DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything0
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mart77 said:DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything7
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DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything
If they have only be available for 10 days and we are only just speaking to them now, then I don’t see an issue with that to be honest - as who knows where they sit on our list of priorities.
You’ll see that I am a big critic of the unbalanced and poorly recruited squad, and I don’t really have hope for this window as well.
But I’d say at the moment the reported links with JCH, Charles Coventry and Gillesphey being at the Bristol game - are proof that talks have been going on before the window opened.
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FishCostaFortune said:DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything
If they have only be available for 10 days and we are only just speaking to them now, then I don’t see an issue with that to be honest - as who knows where they sit on our list of priorities.
You’ll see that I am a big critic of the unbalanced and poorly recruited squad, and I don’t really have hope for this window as well.
But I’d say at the moment the reported links with JCH, Charles Coventry and Gillesphey being at the Bristol game - are proof that talks have been going on before the window opened.0 -
FishCostaFortune said:DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything
If they have only be available for 10 days and we are only just speaking to them now, then I don’t see an issue with that to be honest - as who knows where they sit on our list of priorities.
You’ll see that I am a big critic of the unbalanced and poorly recruited squad, and I don’t really have hope for this window as well.
But I’d say at the moment the reported links with JCH, Charles Coventry and Gillesphey being at the Bristol game - are proof that talks have been going on before the window opened.
The others it's "reported" we're interested in
We can be interested in Harry Kane
Ain't signing him!1 -
DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything
If they have only be available for 10 days and we are only just speaking to them now, then I don’t see an issue with that to be honest - as who knows where they sit on our list of priorities.
You’ll see that I am a big critic of the unbalanced and poorly recruited squad, and I don’t really have hope for this window as well.
But I’d say at the moment the reported links with JCH, Charles Coventry and Gillesphey being at the Bristol game - are proof that talks have been going on before the window opened.supaclive said:FishCostaFortune said:DOUCHER said:FishCostaFortune said:charltonbob said:king addick said:sam3110 said:Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything
If they have only be available for 10 days and we are only just speaking to them now, then I don’t see an issue with that to be honest - as who knows where they sit on our list of priorities.
You’ll see that I am a big critic of the unbalanced and poorly recruited squad, and I don’t really have hope for this window as well.
But I’d say at the moment the reported links with JCH, Charles Coventry and Gillesphey being at the Bristol game - are proof that talks have been going on before the window opened.
The others it's "reported" we're interested in
We can be interested in Harry Kane
Ain't signing him!1 -
The thread has entered the nervous nineties. If it can make it to 100 without a signing, a virtual bat raise will have been hard earned for obdurate resistance.1
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So, those linked to us so far are below... Just to keep a track. Probably a little pointless as we often end up getting someone whom has never been mentioned. I may have missed some.
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Defenders
- Gillesphey (Plymouth) Was at The Valley
- Caleb Taylor (West Brom) old rumour
- Zac Williams (Crewe but now out injured so won't happen). Old rumour.
Midfielders
- Coventry (Hammers) Rich Cawley
- Barkinson (Massives) some Northern paper
- Bate (Leeds) I am guessing this is who is referred to above.
- Docherty (Hull) Not sure... Reams?
- Ian Poveda (Leeds) my guess of Dubai's cryptic clues so could be wrong.
- Ben Krahaus (Bromley) Teamtalk
Forwards
- JCH (Peterborough) Peterborough Chairman/Cawley
- Humphreys (Wigan) Rich Cawley19 -
Braziliance said:Well, proof will be in the pudding then chaps. I head out for Stoke-on-Trent tomorrow and I am probably going to watch a team not good enough again when the people in charge have had the time to realise that for a number of weeks. Other clubs have done business already, funny how season after season it's not us getting it done early and faffing about, again.
If you want to believe these transfers are going to happen that's fine, I am simply sharing my thoughts on why I think they won't. Hopefully I'm wrong and we sign fantastic players and make the play-offs1 -
Athletico Charlton said:So, those linked to us so far are below... Just to keep a track. Probably a little pointless as we often end up getting someone whom has never been mentioned. I may have missed some.
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Defenders
- Gillesphey (Plymouth) Was at The Valley
- Caleb Taylor (West Brom) old rumour
- Zac Williams (Crewe but now out injured so won't happen). Old rumour.
Midfielders
- Coventry (Hammers) Rich Cawley
- Barkinson (Massives) some Northern paper
- Bate (Leeds) I am guessing this is who is referred to above.
- Docherty (Hull) Not sure... Reams?
- Ian Poveda (Leeds) my guess if Dubai's cryptic clues so could be wrong.
Forwards
- JCH (Peterborough) Peterborough Chairman/Cawley
- Humphreys (Wigan) Rich Cawley
If we could somehow get 2 of Bate, Coventry and Docherty in , that would be fantastic business.
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