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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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Let’s see what happens, I don’t see the issue if we sign say five and one worked with MA before. That would feel very different to three or four all being former Lincoln/Blackpool players from the last few seasons.Chunes said:
There's a world of difference between the manager having input on recruitment and the club signing all the manager's old players. The former is part of a healthy modern recruiting setup, the latter suggests the recruitment system isn't producing players that are fit for purpose. And we KNOW that's the case.ForeverAddickted said:
Appleton has a say on players though, isnt that why Watson is going back to Luton?Chunes said:So two of the players we've been linked with have played for Appleton before. Reminds me of the Garner window, where the club claimed to have set up a genius black box recruiting system and yet brought in all the manager's old players.
Now we've got Andy Scott, recruiting whizz, and what hidden gems is he unearthing... Appleton's men.
Our black box is actually just the manager's little black book.
We couldn't be any further away from a Peterborough/Brentford/TakeYourPick style recruitment style.
It’s often said a manager should have his own coaching staff, if there’s a good player is available who’d improve us it shouldn’t matter if they were someone the manager has had before, they were first identified through data or spotted by a scout at a game.
If we’re going to see an improvement in our recruitment it’s something that’ll evolve over time. There’s not an overnight fix. Known players like JCH are obvious, to find the more hidden gem types you need the right people and tools in place to spot them, and do it better than the competition.1 -
Absolutely no point loaning players in.1
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Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar level
Edit: 29 apps all competitions, 5 goals and 4 assists 1362 minutes played.
The only reason he wasn't starting every game is because of their squad depth at the time, he'd walk into our starting XI.
My point was, they've kept hold of a very decent player who had interest from the league above, let's see if we can do the same2 -
1 league goal in his Sheffield Wednesday Career. No prizes for guessing who it was against...owlsonlineadmin said:9 -
The next Johnnie Jackson is on his wayPelling1993 said:
1 league goal in his Sheffield Wednesday Career. No prizes for guessing who it was against...owlsonlineadmin said:
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Why’s he not a regular starter if he’s one of their better players? Only 9 of those are starts.Braziliance said:
Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar level0 -
23 league appearances, of which nine have been starts - averaging 44 minutes per appearance.Braziliance said:
Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar levelYou’re right that he did score against us twice but I thought that playing well against Charlton wasn’t a valid reason to judge if a player was any good? He’s only managed two other goals across the rest of the season.
I also found a tweet from last week where an Oxford fan says he’s crap so he must be bad.
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Aye, cracking header!
1 league goal in his Sheffield Wednesday Career. No prizes for guessing who it was against...0 -
If we want to be factual, he’s played 44% of the minutes Oxford have played.Braziliance said:
Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar level
Edit: 29 apps all competitions, 5 goals and 4 assists 1362 minutes played.
The only reason he wasn't starting every game is because of their squad depth at the time, he'd walk into our starting XI.
My point was, they've kept hold of a very decent player who had interest from the league above, let's see if we can do the same
He’s at a very different point in his career to CBT (97% minutes btw) both in terms of age and development.0 -
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Now now now Callum play fair, what's good for the goose may not be good for the gander after allCallumcafc said:
23 league appearances, of which nine have been starts - averaging 44 minutes per appearance.Braziliance said:
Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar levelYou’re right that he did score against us twice but I thought that playing well against Charlton wasn’t a valid reason to judge if a player was any good? He’s only managed two other goals across the rest of the season.
I also found a tweet from last week where an Oxford fan says he’s crap so he must be bad.0 -
In terms of potential, Leaburn is on another level to Goodrham. If Leaburn sorts his fitness out he will move to a top division team, Goodrham had a few championship links, but even then that could easily be agent talk if he was negotiating a contract with OxfordBraziliance said:
Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar level
Edit: 29 apps all competitions, 5 goals and 4 assists 1362 minutes played.
The only reason he wasn't starting every game is because of their squad depth at the time, he'd walk into our starting XI.
My point was, they've kept hold of a very decent player who had interest from the league above, let's see if we can do the sameHe doesn’t compare to any of our players that are out of contract. A young squad player signing a new contract at Oxford is very different to Dobson and CBT who are among the best in the division and much older1 -
I don’t think we can get annoyed at the club for not getting Dobson and CBT on new contracts until we see where they end up. If they both end up in the championship then there’s probably not much we could have done, if they end up at Derby and Wrexham then fair enough it’s time to get angry5
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Don't completely buy the there's no point of loans point of view.
1: The seasons not over, we still need to pick up points to stay clear of the bottom. If there are good players available for loan why would you not do it.
2: It's less expensive than a permanent deal, it allows us to save money for the summer window where the money can be better spent.
3: It allows us to take a look at a player for 6 months before deciding whether or not we want to try and get them permanently in the summer if that is an option.16 -
It's League 1 , I'd be shocked if anyone wasn't maxing out all 5 loan slots even just from a budget perspective. Of course given the choice I'd rather have permanent signings but I recognise it's not really feasible and you have to supplement the squad with loans - bonus if it's someone you can then sign permanent in the summer.1
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100%covered_end_junior said:Don't completely buy the there's no point of loans point of view.
1: The seasons not over, we still need to pick up points to stay clear of the bottom. If there are good players available for loan why would you not do it.
2: It's less expensive than a permanent deal, it allows us to save money for the summer window where the money can be better spent.
3: It allows us to take a look at a player for 6 months before deciding whether or not we want to try and get them permanently in the summer if that is an option.0 -
Be great if Wrexham had a mad moment and put in a bid for Fraser. Sort of in line with their thinking of taking players from clubs higher in the league than them4
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Would be great, we move him on and we can rant how another club is getting their signings done early.cabbles said:Be great if Wrexham had a mad moment and put in a bid for Fraser. Sort of in line with their thinking of taking players from clubs higher in the league than them17 -
Because that's what Oxford have over us, genuine quality and squad depth, he'd have been run ragged here but they have quality recruitment who can identify players and as a result can afford to rotate players efficiently.Callumcafc said:
23 league appearances, of which nine have been starts - averaging 44 minutes per appearance.Braziliance said:
Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar levelYou’re right that he did score against us twice but I thought that playing well against Charlton wasn’t a valid reason to judge if a player was any good? He’s only managed two other goals across the rest of the season.
I also found a tweet from last week where an Oxford fan says he’s crap so he must be bad.
Just making sure you remember, you don't go to games so I'm not sure if you know how he may have played against us.
Who said that's not a valid reason? What, from when I've said that a performance against us isn't a true basis of a players level as any old Joe in this league can turn the burners on against us? That's literally a tongue in cheek comment that we are pants.
What's your point? I can read the replies here:
And can say their fans are happy about it. As I always say, you can spin it how you like it.
How many more of my posts are you going to quote out of interest over the course of the season? Just starting to find it a bit odd that I always find you quoting my posts/challenging them. What's the plan with it, as evidently I'm going to say our owners are shit either way.
Like I've implied before, but now i'll say it, you can dig your head in the sand as much as you like, I'll point out my concerns around the club.
I think our owners are full of shit, you don't.1 -
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opposite to what all the noise that is coming out.. So not sure this is true.. Well at least not on loan.Callumcafc said:3 -
None of the players linked seem to fit into this strategy bar JCH. Either loans linked or young and inexperienced.Callumcafc said:A well balanced article from Rich Cawley.
Not anything we didn’t already know in terms of player links but good to get perspective from someone who isn’t a fan but still close enough to the club to understand our shortcomings.1 -
Agree. I really don't care what other clubs are doing.ValleyGary said:
You literally ‘100% agreed’ with someone banging on about Carlisle 🤣golfaddick said:
Really couldn't give 2 fucks what 91 other clubs are doing. Maybe they don't have all their senior strikers out. Maybe they can keep a clean sheet. Maybe they have won a match or two over the past 6 weeks. Maybe they are happy with sliding down the table.AFKABartram said:Cob 5th Jan
Confirmed EFL signings = 16
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sam3110 said:
Now now now Callum play fair, what's good for the goose may not be good for the gander after allCallumcafc said:
23 league appearances, of which nine have been starts - averaging 44 minutes per appearance.Braziliance said:
Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar levelYou’re right that he did score against us twice but I thought that playing well against Charlton wasn’t a valid reason to judge if a player was any good? He’s only managed two other goals across the rest of the season.
I also found a tweet from last week where an Oxford fan says he’s crap so he must be bad.
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Docherty and Gillesphey?LargeAddick said:
None of the players linked seem to fit into this strategy bar JCH. Either loans linked or young and inexperienced.Callumcafc said:A well balanced article from Rich Cawley.
Not anything we didn’t already know in terms of player links but good to get perspective from someone who isn’t a fan but still close enough to the club to understand our shortcomings.0 -
You definitely can spin these things however you like it, you’re not wrong there.Braziliance said:
Because that's what Oxford have over us, genuine quality and squad depth, he'd have been run ragged here but they have quality recruitment who can identify players and as a result can afford to rotate players efficiently.Callumcafc said:
23 league appearances, of which nine have been starts - averaging 44 minutes per appearance.Braziliance said:
Completely wrong, Goodrham has played about 25 times for Oxford this season at least and if you remember, scored a brace against us earlier this season.Callumcafc said:
He’s a young academy player who’s made nine starts this season. Surely his new contract is akin to these below?Braziliance said:
Oxford United manage to keep one of their better players who was wanted by championship clubs..
Let's see if we can do the same thing as a club that we allegedly have more spend power than
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/nathan-asiimwe-signs-new-long-term-contract
Only Miles is on a similar levelYou’re right that he did score against us twice but I thought that playing well against Charlton wasn’t a valid reason to judge if a player was any good? He’s only managed two other goals across the rest of the season.
I also found a tweet from last week where an Oxford fan says he’s crap so he must be bad.
Just making sure you remember, you don't go to games so I'm not sure if you know how he may have played against us.
Who said that's not a valid reason? What, from when I've said that a performance against us isn't a true basis of a players level as any old Joe in this league can turn the burners on against us? That's literally a tongue in cheek comment that we are pants.
What's your point? I can read the replies here:
And can say their fans are happy about it. As I always say, you can spin it how you like it.
How many more of my posts are you going to quote out of interest over the course of the season? Just starting to find it a bit odd that I always find you quoting my posts/challenging them. What's the plan with it, as evidently I'm going to say our owners are shit either way.
Like I've implied before, but now i'll say it, you can dig your head in the sand as much as you like, I'll point out my concerns around the club.
I think our owners are full of shit, you don't.
You post a lot, you get quoted a lot. There’s nothing personal in it, it’s the constant willingness to find the worst possible angle in everything recently - even non-Charlton news is used to post digs framed as questions.
I would say I have a healthy distrust of the ownership. Just because I don’t jump on the latest League One news (this morning’s case is Oxford signing academy players to a new contract) and immediately use it to question them doesn’t equate to me backing them.
Lastly, me being out of the country bares little relevance to the topic at hand. I still watch every game, I still see how crap the football has been for the past three years. I’m right there with everyone else in thinking what we’re seeing on the pitch is long way from being good enough.14 -
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The least bit interested in loans. Not what we need.7
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If we end up with Fiorini and Bakinson whilst missing out on Docherty and Coventry that’ll be pretty underwhelming. I guess it’s the years of being let down but I’m already waiting for the ‘we tried hard’, ‘January is a tough time to buy’, ‘we worked till the very end’ statements to come out.Some serious rabbits need to be pulled out of hats and soon!24
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