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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

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  • supaclive said:
    supaclive said:
    Come on guys, any loan with a view to buy is a positive.
    We were told we would be focussing on permanent acquisitions to add to the squad for next season now.   We are going with a loan - nowhere, apart from the journo does that say it's with a view to a permanent deal.

    We were told we would be going for permanent signings.   He isn't.

    Why am I happy about being lied to?

    But each to their own.

    I'm not saying it's a bad thing - the loan - I am saying the owners stated they wanted permanent transfers...... 
    Have you forgotten that our recent form has changed our attitude to this window and accelerated recruitment? We need a couple of bodies pdq. It’s only 5th January. When were you lied to ? 
    I believe the management said only weeks ago they wanted permanent transfers
    I've been told we're too good to go down
    The manager still thinks we can make the play offs
    Why the change of tack?
    Is it because we need bodies, or is it because we actually don't have any money to compete for good players.....

    I'm simply asking the question
    It’s the bloody faith January ffs. There’s three weeks plus for those permanent deals. 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    mart77 said:
    It really is like rinse and repeat on here every window now. 

    Linked with promising names. 
    ‘We’ll have to be patient to get them’
    We’re short on bodies so we’ll bring in an average body to add to the ranks and appease the masses. 
    Release every few days that we’re still trying on deals before ultimately missing out and signing our option f/g late on and saying how pleased we are to capture them.
    The team play like a mid table team with management telling us that we’re unlucky and this will be addressed in the next window, where “we’ll have a real go”

    We are a bang average team, led by a bang average manager, with a very average group of players.

    I truly hope that things turn around but I’m genuinely worried about the future of the club.


    1000% if that was an actual number!
    It's as if some people on here have forgotten the last SIX transfer windows!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    supaclive said:
    Come on guys, any loan with a view to buy is a positive.
    We were told we would be focussing on permanent acquisitions to add to the squad for next season now.   We are going with a loan - nowhere, apart from the journo does that say it's with a view to a permanent deal.

    We were told we would be going for permanent signings.   He isn't.

    Why am I happy about being lied to?

    But each to their own.

    I'm not saying it's a bad thing - the loan - I am saying the owners stated they wanted permanent transfers...... 
    They can't say with a view to a permanent deal because when his loan ends he will no longer be Sheffield Wednesday's player to sell.

    But it's pretty obvious a player coming on loan in the last 6 months of his contract is with a view to being a permanent signing. It's effectively a trial. If he's shit we've not lost anything, if he's good we will try and sign him.
    Problem with that is if he does turn out to be good then someone with more money will want to sign sign him. 😩
  • So assuming Bakinson is coming. Who is the second ? Gillesphrey ? Or a striker ?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,057
    I'd assume the second is Gillesphey and not Fiorini. Would be odd if it wasn't Gillesphey given it's been on the cards all week. 
  • Asked an Ipswich friend about Bakinson; "very inconsistent player with us, might be decent if given a proper run of games"
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    MarcusH26 said:
    I'd assume the second is Gillesphey and not Fiorini. Would be odd if it wasn't Gillesphey given it's been on the cards all week. 
    We can always stretcher him on at Port Vale if his zimmer frame is not available.  

    He would still be quicker than Hector. 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    edited January 2024
    JamesSeed said:
    Didn’t one of the Matt Smiths come from City as well. 

    They’ve done a great job of stitching us up. 
    Yup that should be the biggest complaint about Fiorini (How is he Scottish with a name like that) - All our Man City loans have ended up being absolute shite; Danny Mills was signed on loan from them when he decided he didnt want to play over Christmas
    There was a big influx of Italians into Scotland back at the end of the 19th century.
    ’Between 1876 and 1914 fourteen million Italians emigrated to escape poverty in their homeland. Many walked across Europe to find new homes. Thousands settled in Scotland, bringing with them such treats as Italian ice-cream, chip shops and confectionery.’
    Lots in Wales and also large community in Bedford too.

  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,057


    I guess the only thing with anyone announced now will be if we got the paperwork in for midday to have them available tomorrow or not. 
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,484
    Maybe MA doesn't fancy the current crop and they can't play how he wants.  Maybe we want some players that might take a lot more negotiating and in the meantime we are getting players in he wants, on loan as a stop gap.  The loans may let us let others leave if we also get our first choice targets, the loans also might have a break period.  We might also just be gambling on cheap options yet again.  

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,287
    JamesSeed said:
    Didn’t one of the Matt Smiths come from City as well. 

    They’ve done a great job of stitching us up. 
    Yup that should be the biggest complaint about Fiorini (How is he Scottish with a name like that) - All our Man City loans have ended up being absolute shite; Danny Mills was signed on loan from them when he decided he didnt want to play over Christmas
    There was a big influx of Italians into Scotland back at the end of the 19th century.
    ’Between 1876 and 1914 fourteen million Italians emigrated to escape poverty in their homeland. Many walked across Europe to find new homes. Thousands settled in Scotland, bringing with them such treats as Italian ice-cream, chip shops and confectionery.’
    Lots in Wales and also large community in Bedford too.

    Millions of them in London too, most of them bartenders
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,588
    Dont know anything about Bakinson but on paper looks a decent player who has played in the Championship and in promotion winning league one teams so better than what we have. 

    Our midfield and height has been a problem for some time so if he helps that great. 

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,287
    I said a couple of weeks ago I want someone more in the Bielik/Sam Field mould, I don't know how physical Bakinson is but his height is promising at least
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,290
    edited January 2024
    I don't believe for a second that we will go back in for JCH. Similar to Nombe in the summer they put in bids way below the clubs valuation then tell us they couldn't get it done. I do believe this squad will take years to get sorted but we need 2 or 3 quality players each window (not loans unless a permanent move is agreed)
  • Cor I wouldn't have minded a pound for every time iv heard lately, "He'd be perfect for us" -  based on a poor injury record :s 
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,523
    edited January 2024
    Not keen on Bakinson myself, I'd much rather Coventry if it's one or the other. Hopefully we're looking to bring in more than 1 cm though. 
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Surely the burning question we all want to know the answer to is "Will we be seeing the thread 'Ton Up' gif before the first player in is confirmed?" 

    The race is on 😉
  • Not keen on Bakinson myself, I'd much rather Coventry if it's one or the other. Hopefully we're looking to bring in more than 1 cm though. 
    Tell me about it, we already have a small team as it is. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited January 2024
    sam3110 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Didn’t one of the Matt Smiths come from City as well. 

    They’ve done a great job of stitching us up. 
    Yup that should be the biggest complaint about Fiorini (How is he Scottish with a name like that) - All our Man City loans have ended up being absolute shite; Danny Mills was signed on loan from them when he decided he didnt want to play over Christmas
    There was a big influx of Italians into Scotland back at the end of the 19th century.
    ’Between 1876 and 1914 fourteen million Italians emigrated to escape poverty in their homeland. Many walked across Europe to find new homes. Thousands settled in Scotland, bringing with them such treats as Italian ice-cream, chip shops and confectionery.’
    Lots in Wales and also large community in Bedford too.

    Millions of them in London too, most of them bartenders
    This is getting silly now. 
    Or is that a whoosh?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    Was at the Valley today.

    Very few people around.

    That's all.

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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,484
    Was at the Valley today.

    Very few people around.

    That's all.
    Not a match day you wally.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Am I the only one who hasn’t heard of any of these players apart from JCH? 
  • JamesSeed said:
    Am I the only one who hasn’t heard of any of these players apart from JCH? 

    There is now a separate thread dedicated to exactly that. 👍
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    If CBT & Dobson are to leave (to be clear I want them to sign new deals). I think i'd rather offload them both now to help give a clearer picture of what is needed now & for next season.
    I think if they both leave now we could go down.
    First we got no chance of going down second Dobson will stay he not interested in leaving as his dad confirmed CBT not bothered ( turning out to be biggest overrated player we ever seen ) we can do much  better like CJ Hamilton ..

  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,057
    Not a hope in hell Blackpool would sell CJ Hamilton to us. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,472
    supaclive said:
    supaclive said:
    Come on guys, any loan with a view to buy is a positive.
    We were told we would be focussing on permanent acquisitions to add to the squad for next season now.   We are going with a loan - nowhere, apart from the journo does that say it's with a view to a permanent deal.

    We were told we would be going for permanent signings.   He isn't.

    Why am I happy about being lied to?

    But each to their own.

    I'm not saying it's a bad thing - the loan - I am saying the owners stated they wanted permanent transfers...... 
    They can't say with a view to a permanent deal because when his loan ends he will no longer be Sheffield Wednesday's player to sell.

    But it's pretty obvious a player coming on loan in the last 6 months of his contract is with a view to being a permanent signing. It's effectively a trial. If he's shit we've not lost anything, if he's good we will try and sign him.
    Or it's a cheap option compared to spending actual money on better players.
    if you are a conspiracy theorist.
    It's the 5 Jan and we've already had bids in for Coventry, JCH and Gillesphey.

    I understand the wider frustration with things but i really don't see why you're knocking a loan signing who is 25, local, good experience in this division with clubs who were promoted and could potentially sign for us in the summer.
    Bids they  know won't be enough.
    It's all a f******g nonsense
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    “Elsewhere, we understand Charlton Athletic, another of the clubs keen on El Mizouni in the summer, have joined Oxford in showing interest in former Blues forward Armando Dobra, now with Chesterfield.

    The Albanian U21 international’s contract with Town was terminated by mutual consent in the summer of 2022.”


    https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/46369/town-rebuff-el-mizouni-bids
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,057
    Didn't someone post earlier that they'd heard Dobra was another one with a very poor attitude and that's why he'd dropped into Non League?