January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Backinson 50 + championship games
Fiorini 15 
Dobson 0
Fraser 0
Camara 0
Anderson 0

I'm shocked and surprised 😂😂😂😂 that the Charlton life family have their pitch forks out and have judged these players before they have even kicked a ball for the club.

i do not have a clue if either player is any good or is complete shit. Either way, I'm not going to make judgement on them until I've seen them play. 

You can hazard a guess based on

Recent amount of games played
Recent injuries
Our recent transfer record

Exactly, guess!!!!! they haven't put the shirt on yet. Cut them some slack 

are you including may, jones and cbt in our recent transfer history?

CBT isn't recent
All signed by Gallen
And out of 30 odd signings not a great %
Currently NONE of our recent loans are 



Incorrect. 

Quizz time 

which loan player has started the last 4 or 5 games, scoring twice?

im guessing you haven't included that fact because it doesn't fit into your agenda that all loans are shit?

my personal view is that I would prefer permanent signings over loans. However, we need to stop this downward slide, we need to stop rolling over and not having fight. If a loan helps achieve that over playing a youngster (Anderson) who is so out of his depth, then I'm content. 

My bad
You are right
But the loans we've signed won't be starting games soon 
They're coming back from injury or not match fit
I'll be surptised neigh shocked of either makes the squad today, let alone starts

Campbell has come back in from the wilderness I agree

However.  These two weren't the most urgent signings.  Who plays up front today?

Kanu
Mbick
Casey

All teenagers
All out of their depth 

The ball doesn't stick
And our back 5 can't keep a clean sheet

I'm worried 
Surely you're worried that we have no leadership and that two loans does nothing to support our young, inexperienced players?

As I said, I'm content at the two coming in

its still week one of January, I'm not worried yet.

i agree with the forward line, it's very weak at the moment. I appreciate that tedic was poor but I would have kept him until Monday to protect our youth. Surely sending him back means an incoming is close! Otherwise it could be another poor off pitch decision.

of signed in time, I would expect Backinson to start. 60 mins of him must be better that 90 of Anderson.

the Man City loan is the baffling one. On paper, he is an upgrade on Fraser but the lack of minutes is a worry. I'm going to contradict myself here. I have very little faith in the manager. But, he knows the player and must think he can get up to speed quickly, otherwise what is the point. Having worked with the player before, I trust the manager that I have little trust in 😬

NabySarr said:

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Backinson 50 + championship games
Fiorini 15 
Dobson 0
Fraser 0
Camara 0
Anderson 0

I'm shocked and surprised 😂😂😂😂 that the Charlton life family have their pitch forks out and have judged these players before they have even kicked a ball for the club.

i do not have a clue if either player is any good or is complete shit. Either way, I'm not going to make judgement on them until I've seen them play. 

You can hazard a guess based on

Recent amount of games played
Recent injuries
Our recent transfer record

Exactly, guess!!!!! they haven't put the shirt on yet. Cut them some slack 

are you including may, jones and cbt in our recent transfer history?

CBT isn't recent
All signed by Gallen
And out of 30 odd signings not a great %
Currently NONE of our recent loans are 



Incorrect. 

Quizz time 

which loan player has started the last 4 or 5 games, scoring twice?

im guessing you haven't included that fact because it doesn't fit into your agenda that all loans are shit?

my personal view is that I would prefer permanent signings over loans. However, we need to stop this downward slide, we need to stop rolling over and not having fight. If a loan helps achieve that over playing a youngster (Anderson) who is so out of his depth, then I'm content. 

My bad
You are right
But the loans we've signed won't be starting games soon 
They're coming back from injury or not match fit
I'll be surptised neigh shocked of either makes the squad today, let alone starts

Campbell has come back in from the wilderness I agree

However.  These two weren't the most urgent signings.  Who plays up front today?

Kanu
Mbick
Casey

All teenagers
All out of their depth 

The ball doesn't stick
And our back 5 can't keep a clean sheet

I'm worried 
Surely you're worried that we have no leadership and that two loans does nothing to support our young, inexperienced players?

The back 5 not being able to keep a clean sheet has more to do with the midfield than it does the defence. We’ve been playing with Fraser, Chem Campbell or Karoy Anderson as 2 of our midfielders 

Bakinson will improve us defensively and is addressing our urgent need for someone who can play next to Dobson and can actually defend 

Except he's not match fit

Bakinson has to be a better option than Anderson surely?

JamesSeed said:

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

supaclive said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Backinson 50 + championship games
Fiorini 15 
Dobson 0
Fraser 0
Camara 0
Anderson 0

I'm shocked and surprised 😂😂😂😂 that the Charlton life family have their pitch forks out and have judged these players before they have even kicked a ball for the club.

i do not have a clue if either player is any good or is complete shit. Either way, I'm not going to make judgement on them until I've seen them play. 

You can hazard a guess based on

Recent amount of games played
Recent injuries
Our recent transfer record

Exactly, guess!!!!! they haven't put the shirt on yet. Cut them some slack 

are you including may, jones and cbt in our recent transfer history?

CBT isn't recent
All signed by Gallen
And out of 30 odd signings not a great %
Currently NONE of our recent loans are 



Incorrect. 

Quizz time 

which loan player has started the last 4 or 5 games, scoring twice?

im guessing you haven't included that fact because it doesn't fit into your agenda that all loans are shit?

my personal view is that I would prefer permanent signings over loans. However, we need to stop this downward slide, we need to stop rolling over and not having fight. If a loan helps achieve that over playing a youngster (Anderson) who is so out of his depth, then I'm content. 

My bad
You are right
But the loans we've signed won't be starting games soon 
They're coming back from injury or not match fit
I'll be surptised neigh shocked of either makes the squad today, let alone starts

Campbell has come back in from the wilderness I agree

However.  These two weren't the most urgent signings.  Who plays up front today?

Kanu
Mbick
Casey

All teenagers
All out of their depth 

The ball doesn't stick
And our back 5 can't keep a clean sheet

I'm worried 
Surely you're worried that we have no leadership and that two loans does nothing to support our young, inexperienced players?

Bakinson came off the bench for Wednesday on NYD so can’t be that far off starting for us at all. 

I actually think both Bakinson & Fiorini will start games asap (probably didn't get registered in time for today) but the problem is how long will they last before having to be subbed. I doubt very much if the pair of them will play 90 mins of the  games we have this month. 

And there is the problem. They very well might be the best thing since sliced bread but if they can only manage 60 mins then we are doing ourselves no favours. My hunch is that Appleton will be forced to play them for longer than they should and one, if not both, will pull up with a muscle injury & will then miss a number of games. Just like

Taylor 
McGrandles
Aneke
Camara
Leaburn

.

The interest in Docherty, Coventry, Gillespie’s and JCH have not ceased, or at least we’ve not been told it has. These are all with the exception of perhaps Gillesphey players with other options to consider. Gillespheys expected arrival no doubt complicated by the rumours of a medical issue. They were never going to be quick deals to conclude. We need bodies in quickly and I’m quite surprised that so many are completely writing off our two new loans so soon. Be honest 99% of us don’t know anything about them but because the club hasn’t signed any of the above first there’s an awful lot of wrist slitting. If they both bomb then we judge them at that point, surely not before they’ve kicked a ball. People were raving about Fraser when he signed and I guess what I’m trying to say is at league one level you just never know what you’re going to get. This window is tremendously important and I think we’ll have every right to slam the club if it ultimately disappoints. There’s three weeks left and if the intel is accurate the club are looking at the right sort of players to progress us. Our midfield is basically crap and bringing in the two new lads seems to me to be an upgrade even if it’s unlikely to be an earth shattering one. That might be to follow. Judge the club on 1st February would be my advice. 

We need another LB who can defend and move Edun into midfield if need be. He’s better going forwards and will do less damage defensively.

edit; Edun was a midfielder before Apples converted him to full/wing back at Lincoln so it won’t be unnatural to him but I’m not holding my breath that it’ll happen

Bakinson is 25 by the way people, how on Earth that's considered a "youngster" is beyond me, he made his debut in 2016

LargeAddick said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Backinson 50 + championship games
Fiorini 15 
Dobson 0
Fraser 0
Camara 0
Anderson 0

I'm shocked and surprised 😂😂😂😂 that the Charlton life family have their pitch forks out and have judged these players before they have even kicked a ball for the club.

i do not have a clue if either player is any good or is complete shit. Either way, I'm not going to make judgement on them until I've seen them play. 

I don't think it's the actual signings per se and I'll certainly give them a chance but I think it's more the fact that Andy Scott said they were focussing on permanent signings, players with experience and players that had been playing recently. The first two signings are the polar opposite of that, especially Fiorini, so surely you can understand why many of us are sceptical.

There has also been a Cawley reported “acceleration “ of our transfer strategy based upon our recent slump. Yes the intention might well have been to focus on permanent deals but as we know they generally take longer and are more complicated than loans to get done. We’re in desperate need of reinforcements and at this point I think two quickly concluded loans are not the bad thing or betrayal being portrayed by some. 

sam3110 said:

They haven't announced either way if they're eligible for today, but given both have pictures of them at Sparrows Lane in the daylight yesterday, and in the weight room with CBT with Bakinson, I'd imagine they were registered in time and they just took ages getting the articles out

That was my initial thought and I think it’s Noon the day before a match they have to be registered 🤞.

ShootersHillGuru said:

LargeAddick said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Backinson 50 + championship games
Fiorini 15 
Dobson 0
Fraser 0
Camara 0
Anderson 0

I'm shocked and surprised 😂😂😂😂 that the Charlton life family have their pitch forks out and have judged these players before they have even kicked a ball for the club.

i do not have a clue if either player is any good or is complete shit. Either way, I'm not going to make judgement on them until I've seen them play. 

I don't think it's the actual signings per se and I'll certainly give them a chance but I think it's more the fact that Andy Scott said they were focussing on permanent signings, players with experience and players that had been playing recently. The first two signings are the polar opposite of that, especially Fiorini, so surely you can understand why many of us are sceptical.

There has also been a Cawley reported “acceleration “ of our transfer strategy based upon our recent slump. Yes the intention might well have been to focus on permanent deals but as we know they generally take longer and are more complicated than loans to get done. We’re in desperate need of reinforcements and at this point I think two quickly concluded loans are not the bad thing or betrayal being portrayed by some. 

Yet again, no use unless they are ready to play!

LargeAddick said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Backinson 50 + championship games
Fiorini 15 
Dobson 0
Fraser 0
Camara 0
Anderson 0

I'm shocked and surprised 😂😂😂😂 that the Charlton life family have their pitch forks out and have judged these players before they have even kicked a ball for the club.

i do not have a clue if either player is any good or is complete shit. Either way, I'm not going to make judgement on them until I've seen them play. 

I don't think it's the actual signings per se and I'll certainly give them a chance but I think it's more the fact that Andy Scott said they were focussing on permanent signings, players with experience and players that had been playing recently. The first two signings are the polar opposite of that, especially Fiorini, so surely you can understand why many of us are sceptical.

Things change. Coventry for example, may have turned us down, or West ham moved the goal posts and we acted quickly to get in another target before they moved elsewhere.  Part of the issue is that people expect every conversation, every target, hourly updates from the club.

Backinson has already been written off on the Backinson thread.  Is that fair?  Should that be happening?

Backinson isnt match fit - he got minutes 5 days ago
Backinson is shit - see stats above.

People playing on Scotts every word is one thing, but slatting a player that most wouldnt recognise if ha came up to them and introduced himself is very silly in my view.

Reams saying we've had a bid accepted for JCH £500,000

FAVADDICK said:

Reams saying we've had a bid accepted for JCH £500,000

Credibility comes at a price. 

Also saying another club has matched our offer which I suspect will be the fly in the ointment