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Late late goals!!

19/20. 14 conceded 13 points lost
20/21. 10 conceded. 7 points lost
21/22. 13 conceded. 9 points lost
22/23. 13 conceded. 6 points lost
23/24. 11 conceded. 11 points lost

61 in 207 games

its an ongoing thing!!!
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  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134
    What is the criteria @chappers? Injury time? Post 80 minutes?

    either way, no great surprise. We used up a lifetime of last minute luck at Wembley in 2019….
  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 243
    First half stoppage goals and any goal after 80 minutes. 
    I know we’ve scored Kate at times but I’m showing our failures. 
    19/20 season you save one of them points and we would have stayed up. 
  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 243
    Late
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    So, we could lose to a "late", first half goal, and play a further 45 minutes, plus time added? 
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Was a good idea Chappers but don’t think first half stoppage goals should count as ‘late late goals’
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,636
    chappers said:
    First half stoppage goals and any goal after 80 minutes. 
    I know we’ve scored Kate at times but I’m showing our failures. 
    19/20 season you save one of them points and we would have stayed up. 
    But in 19/20 we got a late point away to WBA, and another away to QPR. Both very late on.

    It works both ways.....unfortunately not much recently but as @HandG says, perhaps we used a few up at Wembley.
      
  • It also works for Charlton as well.
    Just this season Charlton have scored in the 80 minute and beyond against 
    Cheltenham 86th
    Portsmouth  93rd
    Reading       94th
    Blackpool     81st & 83rd
    Exeter.         86th
    Wycombe.   82nd & 94th 
    Stevenage   92nd

    Resulting in 7 Extra points for Charlton.
    Have not checked the other seasons only this season




  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    I think it's still useful, as it shows our concentration levels once we near half time or full time. 
  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 243
    I know it goes both ways and as golfaddick said we scored late at qpr and the Albion. 

    I’ve just concentrated on our frailties 
  • chappers said:
    I know it goes both ways and as golfaddick said we scored late at qpr and the Albion. 

    I’ve just concentrated on our frailties 
    You should move in with @golfaddick

    He feasts on negativity 😃
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  • We have had small squads for years with injury prone players and over promoted kids, meaning many times our 1st team is over used and suffering fatigue.  Little wonder if we concede more late goals than we score. Nothing to do with concentration levels imo.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,782


    (Pompey 76-90 tally is 8 scored, 5 conceded - stupid website arrow in the way)
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,636


    (Pompey 76-90 tally is 8 scored, 5 conceded - stupid website arrow in the way)
    Although interesting its a bit immaterial as the OP's point was how many points has it cost us (and other teams). You could be 5-0 up & let in 3 goals in added on time but still win. 

    Its how many points won or lost by scoring/letting in late goals. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,782


    (Pompey 76-90 tally is 8 scored, 5 conceded - stupid website arrow in the way)
    Although interesting its a bit immaterial as the OP's point was how many points has it cost us (and other teams). You could be 5-0 up & let in 3 goals in added on time but still win. 

    It’s how many points won or lost by scoring/letting in late goals. 
    It gives a pretty good rough idea if you want to compare us against other teams though…

    If you want Charlton specifics, goals 76+ and the change in points as a result below…

    Bristol R (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point
    Port Vale (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point
    Oxford (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / -1 point
    Stevenage (A): after 76 mins 0-1 / +1 point
    Wycombe (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / +2 points
    Exeter (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / 0 points
    Blackpool (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / +1 point
    Reading (H): after 76 mins 1-0 / 0 points
    Lincoln (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / 0 points
    Wigan (A): after 76 mins 2-0 / 0 points
    Portsmouth (A): after 76 mins 0-1 / +1 point
    Cheltenham (H): after 76 mins 1-0 / +2 points
    Cambridge (H): after 76 mins 0-2 / -2 points
    Burton (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -2 points
    Orient (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / -1 point
    Bristol R (A): after 76 mins 1-1 / 0 points
    Oxford (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point

    2 points worse off overall - we were in the positive by 4 points until this horrible December run turned this stat against us.


  • (Pompey 76-90 tally is 8 scored, 5 conceded - stupid website arrow in the way)
    So if you're a Shrewsbury fan you might as well go home after an hour.


  • (Pompey 76-90 tally is 8 scored, 5 conceded - stupid website arrow in the way)
    So if you're a Shrewsbury fan you might as well go home.

    Fixed that for you..
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,263
    chappers said:
    First half stoppage goals and any goal after 80 minutes. 
    I know we’ve scored Kate at times but I’m showing our failures. 
    19/20 season you save one of them points and we would have stayed up. 
    Such a tart 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,223


    (Pompey 76-90 tally is 8 scored, 5 conceded - stupid website arrow in the way)
    Although interesting its a bit immaterial as the OP's point was how many points has it cost us (and other teams). You could be 5-0 up & let in 3 goals in added on time but still win. 

    It’s how many points won or lost by scoring/letting in late goals. 
    It gives a pretty good rough idea if you want to compare us against other teams though…

    If you want Charlton specifics, goals 76+ and the change in points as a result below…

    Bristol R (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point
    Port Vale (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point
    Oxford (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / -1 point
    Stevenage (A): after 76 mins 0-1 / +1 point
    Wycombe (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / +2 points
    Exeter (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / 0 points
    Blackpool (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / +1 point
    Reading (H): after 76 mins 1-0 / 0 points
    Lincoln (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / 0 points
    Wigan (A): after 76 mins 2-0 / 0 points
    Portsmouth (A): after 76 mins 0-1 / +1 point
    Cheltenham (H): after 76 mins 1-0 / +2 points
    Cambridge (H): after 76 mins 0-2 / -2 points
    Burton (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -2 points
    Orient (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / -1 point
    Bristol R (A): after 76 mins 1-1 / 0 points
    Oxford (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point

    2 points worse off overall - we were in the positive by 4 points until this horrible December run turned this stat against us.
    Great stat to see. I would have thought we were a lot worse off than 2 points lost overall.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,782
    edited January 2024


    (Pompey 76-90 tally is 8 scored, 5 conceded - stupid website arrow in the way)
    Although interesting its a bit immaterial as the OP's point was how many points has it cost us (and other teams). You could be 5-0 up & let in 3 goals in added on time but still win. 

    It’s how many points won or lost by scoring/letting in late goals. 
    It gives a pretty good rough idea if you want to compare us against other teams though…

    If you want Charlton specifics, goals 76+ and the change in points as a result below…

    Bristol R (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point
    Port Vale (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point
    Oxford (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / -1 point
    Stevenage (A): after 76 mins 0-1 / +1 point
    Wycombe (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / +2 points
    Exeter (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / 0 points
    Blackpool (H): after 76 mins 2-0 / +1 point
    Reading (H): after 76 mins 1-0 / 0 points
    Lincoln (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / 0 points
    Wigan (A): after 76 mins 2-0 / 0 points
    Portsmouth (A): after 76 mins 0-1 / +1 point
    Cheltenham (H): after 76 mins 1-0 / +2 points
    Cambridge (H): after 76 mins 0-2 / -2 points
    Burton (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -2 points
    Orient (A): after 76 mins 1-0 / -1 point
    Bristol R (A): after 76 mins 1-1 / 0 points
    Oxford (H): after 76 mins 0-1 / -1 point

    2 points worse off overall - we were in the positive by 4 points until this horrible December run turned this stat against us.
    Great stat to see. I would have thought we were a lot worse off than 2 points lost overall.
    It only feels so bad now because we've dropped six points from 76mins onwards since December 9th - which must be some sort of record.

    -3 after 5 games under Holden
    +7 through Appleton's first 12 games
    -6 through Appleton's last 6 games


    Guess which key players we didn't have available during those first five games, or the most recent six. Perhaps highlights the drop off in quality once we lost them... it's a lot different having Leaburn & Aneke versus having Kanu & Casey - as good as the latter might become in a few years time.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,356
    ongoing thing indeed and smacks of unprofessionalism .. but of course during the stated timespan (and I suggest a history going on well before 2019) there has been a collection of different managers and players .. hard to define and without sounding too metaphysical, does it indicate an ingrained sense of uncertainty and fragility within the CAFC 'DNA' ?
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  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 243
    And another today 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    "Seven goals conceded after 80 mins in seven games."
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Appleton doesn’t win when he concedes after the 60th minute. Only Garner conceded later goals.
  • Genuinely - what’s going on?!

    It is nonsensical. The chances of this must be minuscule. There is no logical reason to keep conceding right at the end. The 95th minute of football is no different to the 55th. Same players, same game. 

    I can’t see what’s going on here. Are they throwing the game? Are they giving up? Don’t they care? Is it a protest against Appleton?

    Its not possible to be this insanely, ludicrously useless time after time at the end of a game.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    7 goals conceded in the last 7 league games from the 80th minute onwards now

  • I wonder if there’s some dodgy betting going on!
  • I wonder if there’s some dodgy betting going on!
    I’m kinda half saying this tongue in cheek - but the chances of this happening are massively slim. Something doesn’t add up 
  • Senpai
    Senpai Posts: 901
    I've just had a look at late goals conceded by us. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but we've dropped 11 points with goals conceded in 80 or more minutes. That would put us 8th on 41 points.

    CAFC 1 - 2 Bristol Rovers    90+8
    CAFC 2 - 3 Port Vale           87
    Oxford 2 - 1 CAFC              85
    CAFC 2 - 2 Cambridge        87 and 90+6
    CAFC 1 - 1 Burton              90+1
    Leyton O 1 - 0 CAFC           80
    Bristol Rovers 2 - 1 CAFC   90+4
    CAFC 1 - 2 Oxford              85
    Port Vale 3 -3 CAFC            90+2
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    Senpai said:
    I've just had a look at late goals conceded by us. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but we've dropped 11 points with goals conceded in 80 or more minutes. That would put us 8th on 41 points.

    CAFC 1 - 2 Bristol Rovers    90+8
    CAFC 2 - 3 Port Vale           87
    Oxford 2 - 1 CAFC              85
    CAFC 2 - 2 Cambridge        87 and 90+6
    CAFC 1 - 1 Burton              90+1
    Leyton O 1 - 0 CAFC           80
    Bristol Rovers 2 - 1 CAFC   90+4
    CAFC 1 - 2 Oxford              85
    Port Vale 3 -3 CAFC            90+2
    I make that 15 points