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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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Some guesses based on @Swisdom’s appreciated insight
Mallik Wilks =Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months.Humphrys =
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.Would be very happy with either of the above or Ladapo. We definitely shouldn’t put all our eggs in one JCH basket. There’s other good options out there.1 -
king addick said:Can we stop with the "Terry Taylor new signing" thing?
Proper boring.0 -
Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
Only a couple of points from me
1. Why did Scott not implement these transfer policies last January and the part of the summer window he was in charge of?.
2. Do we know when the brilliant coach Appleton will start to turn our results around, as in the past few months the results have been dire.7 -
Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)23 -
charlton_hero said:0
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fenaddick said:The risk for JCH is another 6 months of not being the main no9. Peterborough clearly want him gone and have planned for his depature5
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J BLOCK said:Melrose said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
I've also heard he's a good coach but if he can't implement his ideas on the pitch then it's not really worthwhile. I'd love us to invest into him but his record doesn't suggest he can do it and the footballing we are all watching doesn't suggest he can either.
1 win in 10 and the amount of late goals conceded just looks like someone who isn't up to it imo, as harsh as that may sound.
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Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
Neither of which bode well.3 -
Yeah Hull not having a lot of CM cover with 2 players at AFCON might scupper things a bit. Hopefully it still happens though.
Would not be too surprised to see a Malik Wilks link actually. Would be a good option to have wide.
I really like the idea of adding some more leadership qualities to the side , I think that's something that is lacking , even if it's a bit of an older head to see games out.1 -
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RonnieMoore said:fenaddick said:The risk for JCH is another 6 months of not being the main no9. Peterborough clearly want him gone and have planned for his depature
Hope we go after other targets now, we can't wait another month for a striker.7 -
J BLOCK said:Melrose said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)0 -
Mind numbing stuff from some who are saying, 'move on from JCH' already. With absolutely no clue what stage the negotiations are or what is happening in the deal. Just assumed, cos some teenager has suggested the deal is off on another forum?
Note: I have no clue either1 -
JohnnyH2 said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
Only a couple of points from me
1. Why did Scott not implement these transfer policies last January and the part of the summer window he was in charge of?.
2. Do we know when the brilliant coach Appleton will start to turn our results around, as in the past few months the results have been dire.The summer part is a good question and my guess at the answer is either lack of time to change things or arrogance.0 -
RonnieMoore said:fenaddick said:The risk for JCH is another 6 months of not being the main no9. Peterborough clearly want him gone and have planned for his depature2
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Interesting. I'm not sure I've seen much in terms of his brilliant coaching, thus far. I include set pieces on that list.2
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Appleton the best coach these people have worked with, but has only been successful at one club.
Either he's in the wrong job or his pals are just gassing him up to people who ask.3 -
Curbs_Ball said:Mind numbing stuff from some who are saying, 'move on from JCH' already. With absolutely no clue what stage the negotiations are or what is happening in the deal. Just assumed, cos some teenager has suggested the deal is off on another forum?
Note: I have no clue either5 -
Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)10 -
thenewbie said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
Neither of which bode well.2 -
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One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout - CONOR COVENTRY
but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope. - ???
One of them has been made a very good offer. - JCH
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities. - MACAULEY GILLESPHEY?
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. - MALLIK WILKS?
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist. - LEWIS BATE?
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DubaiCAFC said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
We'll see where we are at the end of January.41 -
cabbles said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
Whistler "You will, Ronnie, you will"10 -
DubaiCAFC said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
But they are getting their information from Methven.
Methven I believe has convinced them that they should keep faith in Andy Scott and Appleton and to back them in this transfer window.
Personally I think both Scott and Appleton are useless and I would prefer to replace them both now.
But as I have no say in the matter all I can do is hope they get it right and carry on supporting the club.11 -
DubaiCAFC said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
Them wanting to put things right is just noise. Them actually doing something to actually succeed in putting it right will be meaningful.... and neither of the two signings so far do that for me.19 -
Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)Things will be a lot clearer at the end of the month.0 -
Bolderhumphreyreid said:One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout - CONOR COVENTRY
but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope. - ???
One of them has been made a very good offer. - JCH
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities. - MACAULEY GILLESPHEY?
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. - MALLIK WILKS?
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist. - LEWIS BATE?34 -
DubaiCAFC said:Swisdom said:You don't have to believe this if you don't want to
CAFC have made numerous offers for players. CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
One of them has been made a very good offer. His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear. (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.
I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.
It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team. And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews
I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is. Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for. I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right
In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)
proof of the pudding etc etc. I have every intention of losing weight this year but doubt it will happen.5 -
Over £500k but likely going up a division? Wasn't 500k the release clause for Conor O'Riordan the Crewe CB who's seemingly off to Blackburn?
Highly rated ex team mates , Owen Dale (Unlikely), Tom Lowery (Unlikely) , Ryan Wintle (No chance)
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