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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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This deal is definitely not happening. If somehow Coventry does end up agreeing terms with us, we will lowball the transfer fee (that is yet to be agreed?) so that we can keep up the appearances of going for ambitious targets. Lets judge Rodwell/Scott on who actually ends up joining this window.DubaiCAFC said:Anyway.. Coventry deal might be back on.. Shef Wed have refused to match our offer in terms of wages! So we are back in with a sniff, but there our 2 other championship clubs interested, but haven't agreed a fee as of yet. Might have been the player Scott was talking to last night.9 -
This 100%MickeyBennett said:
This deal is definitely not happening. If somehow Coventry does end up agreeing terms with us, we will lowball the transfer (that is yet to be agreed?) so that we can keep up the appearances of going for ambitious targets. Lets judge Rodwell/Scott on who actually ends up joining this window.DubaiCAFC said:Anyway.. Coventry deal might be back on.. Shef Wed have refused to match our offer in terms of wages! So we are back in with a sniff, but there our 2 other championship clubs interested, but haven't agreed a fee as of yet. Might have been the player Scott was talking to last night.
Let's judge them on who actually signs.
Not on who we are allegedly linked with.0 -
Coventry and JCH and my eyebrows are raised. Both would be massive statements.8
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Please, please, please can we have for the next window two Charlton transfer threads:
1. Transfer Rumours - Summer 2024 (for rumours only).
2. Transfer Discussions - Summer 2024 (for general transfer chat and suggestions etc)
You know it makes sense.7 -
Do you genuinely believe that will rid either thread of bickering, accusations, fish puns and general bullshit?JamesSeed said:Please, please, please can we have for the next window two Charlton transfer threads:
1. Transfer Rumours - Summer 2024 (for rumours only).
2. Transfer Discussions - Summer 2024 (for general transfer chat and suggestions etc)
You know it makes sense.9 -
It’s gotta be worth a try.BR7_addick said:
Do you genuinely believe that will rid either thread of bickering, accusations, fish puns and general bullshit?JamesSeed said:Please, please, please can we have for the next window two Charlton transfer threads:
1. Transfer Rumours - Summer 2024 (for rumours only).
2. Transfer Discussions - Summer 2024 (for general transfer chat and suggestions etc)
You know it makes sense.1 -
Fair enough, Bass the spirit.JamesSeed said:
It’s gotta be worth a try.BR7_addick said:
Do you genuinely believe that will rid either thread of bickering, accusations, fish puns and general bullshit?JamesSeed said:Please, please, please can we have for the next window two Charlton transfer threads:
1. Transfer Rumours - Summer 2024 (for rumours only).
2. Transfer Discussions - Summer 2024 (for general transfer chat and suggestions etc)
You know it makes sense.4 -
Perfect post for the Disillusioned with Charlton thread. 👍golfaddick said:
The last 2 weeks don't say so.DubaiCAFC said:
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!supaclive said:
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6.DubaiCAFC said:
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!supaclive said:
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.DubaiCAFC said:
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!supaclive said:
As they shouldDubaiCAFC said:
Na... they will just blame the owners!!Oh Eddie Youds... said:If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
He said failure stops now
Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
And if we have to wait another 2 windows I hate to see what state we are in by Summer 2025.
I am voting with my feet. I had a ST all the way through the Duchatelet years (even when some were boycotting) and through ESI & Sandgaard. All I have seen & heard are empty promises. The team has gone backwards since relegation and the only bright spark has been Alfie May and CBT. The former is now being played out of position and the latter likely to be sold because he wont sign a new contract.
I now pick & choose my games and with recent results/performances I am unlikely to go much more this season. To get my back down to the Valley (and then buying a ST) I have to see better players being brought in & then played in their rightful positions. Not players with injury issues who haven't played all season.0 -
As I said, i will judge in Feb. Purely because I do not know who Scott has had conversations with, when and the outcome. We may have had 10 bids accepted and players have rejected us. We may have had bids accepted, terms agreed and the player has failed a medical. or, we may have done jack s**t.golfaddick said:
This is reasonable up to a point. To counter this I will then ask you -Todds_right_hook said:
Please stop saying Scott has had two windows already. Please!!!supaclive said:
Two more windowsDubaiCAFC said:
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!supaclive said:
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6.DubaiCAFC said:
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!supaclive said:
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.DubaiCAFC said:
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!supaclive said:
As they shouldDubaiCAFC said:
Na... they will just blame the owners!!Oh Eddie Youds... said:If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
He said failure stops now
Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one?
FIVE WINDOWS?
We are really setting the bar low aren't we
window 1. He was working for sandgaard under a completely different brief. The owner wanted out and wanted to reduce costs. From sandgaards point of view, last January was a good window.
window 2. What percentage of the window had gone when the new owners took control? How many realistic targets had moved on by that stage?
window 3. This is the first full window Scott has had.Summary. As this is his first full window and I'll judge him come February.
Scott has had since August to identify players to bring in. Over the months it has become obvious that some players are not up to it /injured and so need replacing. When do YOU think these players should be signing - Jan 2nd or Feb 1st ? And do YOU think a player who has not had a single minute of playing time this season is the right player to bring in.
There are lots of unknowns at this stage
If on the 1st Feb, we have signed 4 18 year olds on loan = failure
4 loans, two perms = undecided
2 loans and 4 perms = probably happy.
I have no clue whether a player with zero minutes is good or bad because sports science is out side of my knowledge. As a punt, bad, but I have no science behind that and will trust the footballing people at Charlton to make the correct decision. Although, i get why trust levels are low.2 -
Sam Walker gone so either Isted back soon or we might see links to keepers4
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back at you, reasonable to a point.golfaddick said:
And 6 weeks before the transfer window closed - a longer period than this winter one !Todds_right_hook said:
To be fair, the 21st July was two weeks before the season started!shirty5 said:
More than 2 weeksRonnieMoore said:
They not .. they had two weeks in the summer and this one .. everything else had to be agreed through TS ..supaclive said:
Two more windowsDubaiCAFC said:
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!supaclive said:
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6.DubaiCAFC said:
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!supaclive said:
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.DubaiCAFC said:
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!supaclive said:
As they shouldKDubaiCAFC said:
Na... they will just blame the owners!!Oh Eddie Youds... said:If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
He said failure stops now
Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one?
FIVE WINDOWS?
We are really setting the bar low aren't we
They took over the club on the 21st July
You would be no good if they were your specialist subject on Mastermind. You would be playing serious catch up on the general knowledge round
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/global-football-partners-purchase-charlton-athletic
(I didn't realise that they completed the takeover well before the transfer window shut - makes a mockery of this season !)
They may have had 6 weeks in the summer but how many weeks were lost? how many targets had already moved by the time they took control?
I stand by my earlier comment that this is the window where I start judging them.
Noise levels have been good, actions/results are seriously lagging at this stage.
What would you do if a big mortgage broker sounded you out and said that in 6 weeks time they will make you a wonderful offer but cannot anything in writing, progress things for 6 weeks with zero guarantee that things materialise, compared with another good offer which is on the table now and will happen. What offer would you take?2 -
I must admit unless we are sending back Watson/Chem Campbell I'm surprised we're linked with loans. Would have thought as and when Pan is fit (anyone seen a mention of when that could be?) We'll have all 5 loans in the squad.0
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https://www.bradfordcityafc.com/news/2024/january/city-snap-up-sam-walker/
Sam Walker joins Bradford.2 -
It's fairly obvious that the playing side needed an initial cash investment, this still needs to happen. Otherwise what's the point of them buying us.DubaiCAFC said:
What other options do we have?Henry Irving said:
"Suck it up"DubaiCAFC said:
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!supaclive said:
As they shouldDubaiCAFC said:
Na... they will just blame the owners!!Oh Eddie Youds... said:If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
Wow, you really just told other fans who aren't happy to "suck it up"
Unbelievable.
Suck it up and try to support the club, and see what happens or don't go and spend your hard earned cash.
Think last night they delivered a message, they know they haven't got it right, they have made mistake, they know it isn't an easy fix, they are trying to correct the wrongs, they have owners who are willing to invest money in the playing side, and non-playing side.
I am frustrated as much as anyone how poor this season has been, how we have left ourselves short, how things don't seem to be going to plan this window.. But need to give them a chance, personally,
I don't we will see the really benefits for another 18months - 2 years in my opinion, it is a project!
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Not if we have 4 loan CM’s effectively fighting for 1 spot next to Dobbo. You’d expect 1/2 of them missing from each squadMarcusH26 said:I must admit unless we are sending back Watson/Chem Campbell I'm surprised we're linked with loans. Would have thought as and when Pan is fit (anyone seen a mention of when that could be?) We'll have all 5 loans in the squad.0 -
Surely we have to be looking at longstaff, if we're bidding 500k for a 29 Yr old, there's a better return you would hope on him?follett said:The true test of our recruitment is who we go for next, if JCH is a no go. If we go back in for someone like Humphry's great but if we end up with a last minute youngster on loan or an out of form player returning from injury who can be picked up a bit cheaper, the signs aren't good.0 -
I imagine Watson goes back in a couple of weeks0
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Not reading between the lines on Lutons managers recent comment, Sam2
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Langstaff is more in the Alfie May mould than JCH, we need more of a big lump for Alife to play offCAFCDAZ said:
Surely we have to be looking at longstaff, if we're bidding 500k for a 29 Yr old, there's a better return you would hope on him?follett said:The true test of our recruitment is who we go for next, if JCH is a no go. If we go back in for someone like Humphry's great but if we end up with a last minute youngster on loan or an out of form player returning from injury who can be picked up a bit cheaper, the signs aren't good.3 -
Good.DubaiCAFC said:supaclive said:
Hold on.... not going to plan this window??DubaiCAFC said:
What other options do we have?Henry Irving said:
"Suck it up"DubaiCAFC said:
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!supaclive said:
As they shouldDubaiCAFC said:
Na... they will just blame the owners!!Oh Eddie Youds... said:If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
Wow, you really just told other fans who aren't happy to "suck it up"
Unbelievable.
Suck it up and try to support the club, and see what happens or don't go and spend your hard earned cash.
Think last night they delivered a message, they know they haven't got it right, they have made mistake, they know it isn't an easy fix, they are trying to correct the wrongs, they have owners who are willing to invest money in the playing side, and non-playing side.
I am frustrated as much as anyone how poor this season has been, how we have left ourselves short, how things don't seem to be going to plan this window.. But need to give them a chance, personally,
I don't we will see the really benefits for another 18months - 2 years in my opinion, it is a project!
But but but..... you said on Monday it was going to be a busy week!!!!
Quickest reversal since your last one!
It is football, things are always changing, players change minds more times than hot dinners.. Not everything does go to plan when recruiting players, and that's not only Charlton, that is clubs up and down the country!!
I am going to leave it here now..2 -
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Plus we have Kanu as cover for May, we don’t need another striker in that mould.fenaddick said:
Langstaff is more in the Alfie May mould than JCH, we need more of a big lump for Alife to play offCAFCDAZ said:
Surely we have to be looking at longstaff, if we're bidding 500k for a 29 Yr old, there's a better return you would hope on him?follett said:The true test of our recruitment is who we go for next, if JCH is a no go. If we go back in for someone like Humphry's great but if we end up with a last minute youngster on loan or an out of form player returning from injury who can be picked up a bit cheaper, the signs aren't good.1 -
We surely have to accept that the club is serious about signing Coventry and Clark-Harris otherwise what’s the point of discussion. Do we really think the club are so corrupt that they make offers and waste their own time talking with clubs, agents and players just to appease us but with no intention of following through ? That’s frankly absurd. If that’s what you believe then I have no words to offer. Just how easy do you think it is to sign good quality players when up against Championship clubs and players with good choices like JCH. It would appear that the package we’ve both offered to West Ham and Coventry are at least as good as Sheff Wednesday but at the end of the day we can’t make a player sign. Once we get one quality signing over the line it will become easier but I don’t understand the anger of some because we haven’t signed either yet.31
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I feel sorry for Bradford, Harry Lewis is a pretty decent keeper and one of their better players. To lose a keeper like that for Sam Walker as a replacement is pretty shoddy. Bradford criminally underachieving at present and can't imagine their fans being too happy about that.
Good signing for Carlisle genuinely, solid bet for promotion next year if they do go down, seem to have to found a bunch of owners that fancy a go at it. However long that lasts who knows2 -
More like he's one that we might have a break clause in the contract on, and if Appleton has decided he doesn't rate him and brought in Bakinson and Fiorini, and at some stage you imagine could also have Dobson, Taylor, McGrandles, Camara and possibly another CM signing competing for a squad place, I can see Watson being recalled and sent somewhere else, regardless of whether the Luton boss thinks it's good for him or notWHAddick said:Not reading between the lines on Lutons managers recent comment, Sam0 -
Callumcafc said:
Got to love the transfer window…now does sound like Coventry to Sheffield Wednesday is off. #cafc5 -
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I hope it's us that's signing him and basically said look either way you're playing in League 1 next year, you either do it in London on a higher wage, or in Sheffield on a lower wage, your choice9
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shades of HS2Henry Irving said:Callumcafc said:Got to love the transfer window…now does sound like Coventry to Sheffield Wednesday is off. #cafc15
