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Michael Appleton - Jan 2026 no longer Shrewsbury manager (p129)

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  • Rob
    Rob
    edited January 2024
    PWADDICK said:
    I hope tomorrow there’s heat towards Scott as well as Appleton, we are ultimately where we are because of him.
    Cheers for Coventry, Bakinson, Ladapo, Rarmani, Gillesphy, Fiorini. Actually showing actions that spoke louder than words. Showing tangible signs of progress in our recruitment. But let’s give him a load of grief as well.
    Right! 

    Let this managerial situation play out. There is obviously something going on behind the scenes. If there is an improvement managerially, like there has been recruitment wise, happy days, if not then you’ve something to give heat about!
    But has recruited a piss poor manager and signed a load of rubbish in the summer that meant half of them went back to their parent clubs in January.
    But, we don’t know how much money he had to work with in the summer. There’s no way the new consortium would finance a transfer window if they thought the deal wasn’t going to happen. We were probably still under the tight purse strings of Sandgaard, hence the lack of quality that was brought in. This window has been different. No one can argue that this hasn’t been a good window. Now we need a coach/manager who can handle the players. We know the juries well and truly out on Appleton. Let’s see how it pans out. 
  • What a strange day.  I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game.  Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.

    Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable

    What evidence is there that he has lost the dressing room? I hate these throwaway comments, the sort of comments that lead to ' no smoke without fire' scenario. Why would so many players who have played with Appleton have joined us. Do I think he will go-yes, do I want him to be our long term manager-no, but making stuff up is unacceptable.
    Alfie May's reaction after the final whistle on Saturday - maybe a little circumstantial and not evidence of the entire dressing room, but having your top scorer and talisman react that way I feel is an indicator that all isn't well. 

    And Doucher, I don't think he's clueless, 

    Wasn't that a reaction that he didn't think his teammates were putting in the effort or tactics that the manager demanded. 
    eh? i'm pro may and anti appleton if that helps?
  • Rob said:
    PWADDICK said:
    I hope tomorrow there’s heat towards Scott as well as Appleton, we are ultimately where we are because of him.
    Cheers for Coventry, Bakinson, Ladapo, Rarmani, Gillesphy, Fiorini. Actually showing actions that spoke louder than words. Showing tangible signs of progress in our recruitment. But let’s give him a load of grief as well.
    Right! 

    Let this managerial situation play out. There is obviously something going on behind the scenes. If there is an improvement managerially, like there has been recruitment wise, happy days, if not then you’ve something to give heat about!
    But has recruited a piss poor manager and signed a load of rubbish in the summer that meant half of them went back to their parent clubs in January.
    But, we don’t know how much money he had to work with in the summer. There’s no way the new consortium would finance a transfer window if they thought the deal wasn’t going to happen. We were probably still under the tight purse strings of Sandgaard, hence the lack of quality that was brought in. This window has been different. No one can argue that this hasn’t been a good window. Now we need a coach/manager who can handle the players. We know the juries well and truly out on Appleton. Let’s see how it pans out. 
    It will only be a good window when results improve. Too soon to say.
    We are now committed to 352 with no proper 10 yet through the door and dodgy wingbacks. We will soon see if the defence recruits make any difference.

  • Just noticed this, “Flomsie” who appears to be CBT’s agent posted this on instagram a couple of days ago. For those who haven’t seen the video, the above bald man cries about losing his job. Now I’m no conspiracy theorist…
  • Callumcafc
    edited January 2024
    PWADDICK said:
    Just noticed this, “Flomsie” who appears to be CBT’s agent posted this on instagram a couple of days ago. For those who haven’t seen the video, the above bald man cries about losing his job. Now I’m no conspiracy theorist…
    He was posting that in response to Derby fans who had found his account and grabbed screenshots of him posting Corey in a Derby shirt before they'd officially announced it. Don't know why it would have anything to do with Appleton.
  • Rob
    Rob
    edited January 2024
    Southbank said:
    Rob said:
    PWADDICK said:
    I hope tomorrow there’s heat towards Scott as well as Appleton, we are ultimately where we are because of him.
    Cheers for Coventry, Bakinson, Ladapo, Rarmani, Gillesphy, Fiorini. Actually showing actions that spoke louder than words. Showing tangible signs of progress in our recruitment. But let’s give him a load of grief as well.
    Right! 

    Let this managerial situation play out. There is obviously something going on behind the scenes. If there is an improvement managerially, like there has been recruitment wise, happy days, if not then you’ve something to give heat about!
    But has recruited a piss poor manager and signed a load of rubbish in the summer that meant half of them went back to their parent clubs in January.
    But, we don’t know how much money he had to work with in the summer. There’s no way the new consortium would finance a transfer window if they thought the deal wasn’t going to happen. We were probably still under the tight purse strings of Sandgaard, hence the lack of quality that was brought in. This window has been different. No one can argue that this hasn’t been a good window. Now we need a coach/manager who can handle the players. We know the juries well and truly out on Appleton. Let’s see how it pans out. 
    It will only be a good window when results improve. Too soon to say.
    We are now committed to 352 with no proper 10 yet through the door and dodgy wingbacks. We will soon see if the defence recruits make any difference.
    True. With the players we have, they should. But we shall see. I was surprised that he didn’t start Gillesphey and REG last Saturday. And I wasn’t surprised with the way we conceded that 1st goal. Business as usual if you don’t change things. 
  • I sincerely hope we win tonight, and win well. I want MA to be given time to work with HIS players (who have only just walked through the door) and not the inherited dross he has had to work with. What I cannot stomach is the frenzied and heartless lynch mob mentality that this board sometimes generates. At times it makes me thoroughly ashamed to be a lifelong Addicks fan.
  • Is it possible that they spoke with him about him leaving by mutual consent and he’s refused and said I don’t walk away. Sack me. 
    It’s about as possible as them deciding it by a game of paper, scissor, stone.

    (Which Appleton would have lost what with his hands in his pockets)
    Schrödinger’s paper, scissor, stone.  All 3 are equal possibilities and you will never, ever know 
  • Sounds as if things have got really messy.. It isn't going to end well that's for sure.. I think tonight is going to be extremely toxic tonight at the valley.. Maybe never like this to a manager before! 

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  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Sounds as if things have got really messy.. It isn't going to end well that's for sure.. I think tonight is going to be extremely toxic tonight at the valley.. Maybe never like this to a manager before! 
    There will probably only be about 5k There tonight. 
    Some will shout and moan.
    The rest are just resigned to the fact our club is a basket case.
  • TEL
    TEL
    edited January 2024
    DubaiCAFC said:
    He has gone, he was told on Saturday night, the set up for the next few games was arranged yesterday, it hasn't been announced yet, is because of legal stuff! 

    I have reconfirmed 3 or 4 times with different sources, and same answer every time..

    Seems you were misled.. 

    That video released this morning made me very uncomfortable. The bloke has lost the supporters completely and I find it hard that we will ever warm to him.

    The guy shouldn't be put in that position in my opinion as he was never ever going to be accepted at Charlton. He has been a figure of derision for many years and if the management had even a modicum of a clue about us, they would have known it. 

    The club have a duty of care to him like any other person they employ and they are basically putting off the inevitable. 
  • Hopefully Appleton can reach some sort of financial package with the club today and we won't have to witness a very embarrassing evening tonight. 
    That would of course involve us having proper professional people in charge of our club.
    So I won't be expecting it to happen. 
  • The players will know that Appleton needs a win tonight if he wants to keep his job. We'll be able to tell through their effort (or lack thereof) whether they rate him. 
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Sounds as if things have got really messy.. It isn't going to end well that's for sure.. I think tonight is going to be extremely toxic tonight at the valley.. Maybe never like this to a manager before! 
    There will probably only be about 5k There tonight. 
    Some will shout and moan.
    The rest are just resigned to the fact our club is a basket case.
    Disagree, tonight will be lively. 
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Sounds as if things have got really messy.. It isn't going to end well that's for sure.. I think tonight is going to be extremely toxic tonight at the valley.. Maybe never like this to a manager before! 
    I know you only share what you’re told, and for that I’m grateful, but I assume you must question the veracity of your own sources given that you told us:

    He has gone, he was told on Saturday night, the set up for the next few games was arranged yesterday, it hasn't been announced yet, is because of legal stuff! 

    I have reconfirmed 3 or 4 times with different sources, and same answer every time..”
  • se9addick said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Sounds as if things have got really messy.. It isn't going to end well that's for sure.. I think tonight is going to be extremely toxic tonight at the valley.. Maybe never like this to a manager before! 
    I know you only share what you’re told, and for that I’m grateful, but I assume you must question the veracity of your own sources given that you told us:

    He has gone, he was told on Saturday night, the set up for the next few games was arranged yesterday, it hasn't been announced yet, is because of legal stuff! 

    I have reconfirmed 3 or 4 times with different sources, and same answer every time..”
    To be fair, Dubai wasn't the only person to say this.

    something has gone on. My view is that he was either told to leave mutually but he said no or the investors overruled the smt
  • se9addick said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Sounds as if things have got really messy.. It isn't going to end well that's for sure.. I think tonight is going to be extremely toxic tonight at the valley.. Maybe never like this to a manager before! 
    I know you only share what you’re told, and for that I’m grateful, but I assume you must question the veracity of your own sources given that you told us:

    He has gone, he was told on Saturday night, the set up for the next few games was arranged yesterday, it hasn't been announced yet, is because of legal stuff! 

    I have reconfirmed 3 or 4 times with different sources, and same answer every time..”
    Well been pretty much on the money with everything else... Everything is a bit of a mess with it at the moment!
  • Chunes
    edited January 2024
    Here's another possibility. It was all bollocks. People read rumours on here or elsewhere and then share them with their mates as if they've heard it themselves. And then they again get shared on here, and the circle continues. It's a snowball effect. 

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  • se9addick said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Sounds as if things have got really messy.. It isn't going to end well that's for sure.. I think tonight is going to be extremely toxic tonight at the valley.. Maybe never like this to a manager before! 
    I know you only share what you’re told, and for that I’m grateful, but I assume you must question the veracity of your own sources given that you told us:

    He has gone, he was told on Saturday night, the set up for the next few games was arranged yesterday, it hasn't been announced yet, is because of legal stuff! 

    I have reconfirmed 3 or 4 times with different sources, and same answer every time..”
    To be fair, Dubai wasn't the only person to say this.

    something has gone on. My view is that he was either told to leave mutually but he said no or the investors overruled the smt
    As I said, I checked with 3 or 4 different people, and same message was coming out.. In particular one person who have been very close to this, and was all saying the same thing now..

    But all I am getting now, is 'we can't say much, but it is a mess' 
  • I doubt Appleton is on a particularly good wage.
    Surely if the club want him gone it wouldn't cost that much to pay him off.
    Fuck knows what's going on. 
  • PWADDICK said:
    Just noticed this, “Flomsie” who appears to be CBT’s agent posted this on instagram a couple of days ago. For those who haven’t seen the video, the above bald man cries about losing his job. Now I’m no conspiracy theorist…
    He was posting that in response to Derby fans who had found his account and grabbed screenshots of him posting Corey in a Derby shirt before they'd officially announced it. Don't know why it would have anything to do with Appleton.
    Ah I see, well apologies then!
  • I doubt Appleton is on a particularly good wage.
    Surely if the club want him gone it wouldn't cost that much to pay him off.
    Fuck knows what's going on. 

    I suspect the problem isn’t just getting rid of Appleton but the people who hired him and have sat back and watched the awful run of results. Explaining that to the ‘new’ owners as you say we’re going to need a bit more money to pay for a season that’s basically been wasted and by the way the team could get relegated might be a bit tricky 
  • I doubt Appleton is on a particularly good wage.
    Surely if the club want him gone it wouldn't cost that much to pay him off.
    Fuck knows what's going on. 

    I suspect the problem isn’t just getting rid of Appleton but the people who hired him and have sat back and watched the awful run of results. Explaining that to the ‘new’ owners as you say we’re going to need a bit more money to pay for a season that’s basically been wasted and by the way the team could get relegated might be a bit tricky 
    It's a mess ain't it.
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  • Why has @DubaiCAFC had to have been misled? Is it not a possibility that what he shared was absolutely correct?…at that time!
    There is so much more to this which may or may not ever come to light. 
    Well it can’t be correct - because Michael Appleton hasn’t “gone”. I don’t think Dubai fabricated this at all - I just think maybe his connection(s) didn’t have the full picture. 
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  • se9addick said:
    Why has @DubaiCAFC had to have been misled? Is it not a possibility that what he shared was absolutely correct?…at that time!
    There is so much more to this which may or may not ever come to light. 
    Well it can’t be correct - because Michael Appleton hasn’t “gone”. I don’t think Dubai fabricated this at all - I just think maybe his connection(s) didn’t have the full picture. 
    I think this is the bi-product of Charlton’s convoluted structure. 

    You’ve got god knows how many people with an ownership stake. Just because one of them offer a view and insight, doesn’t mean it will then be a carried finalisation. Same with the ‘UK management team’. Then chuck in all the usual ‘someone who works at the training ground / The Valley’, or knows a players dad, or X’s agent etc and you got so many potential messages out, which if they were correct about so and so signing in the past then get interpreted as everything they say is fact when that might not necessarily be the case. 


  • If people are told things in good faith, and then share it, especially if they are told by multiple different sources, then its wrong to shoot the messenger. Let's face it, it wasn't just @DubaiCAFC who said he'd gone and didn't take training, others on here and elsewhere said the same! What transpired after all the reports, I haven't got a clue, I've never been ITK, but to me there's no smoke without fire. 
    Did the owners overule the SMT?, did MA refuse a mutual agreement? Or were the people who fed info to the different posters being used? I really don't have a clue, however I'm sure info shared was as accurate, at the time. 
    I do believe if he losses tonight his gone pronto!