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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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3rd manager this season and could go down, thank fuck we are not unstable then or things could be really bad.RonnieMoore said:
Were not unstable at all we now have owners in who have a good structure and more important money .. I would say this is the most stable this club been off the pitch since Richard Murray .. ( not his last few years of course )mendonca said:But it does assume the Reading player would want to move from one unstable club to another? Also, one relegation battle to another.
A bit like JCH, our bid might be accepted but it could be a waste of time and effort.23 -
Comparative to Reading though.Melrose said:
Well somethings not right. Look where we are for F---s sake, if that's stable!!RonnieMoore said:
Were not unstable at all we now have owners in who have a good structure and more important money .. I would say this is the most stable this club been off the pitch since Richard Murray .. ( not his last few years of course )mendonca said:But it does assume the Reading player would want to move from one unstable club to another? Also, one relegation battle to another.
A bit like JCH, our bid might be accepted but it could be a waste of time and effort.
Their squad will be wondering if they're getting paid, whether their games will get interrupted and/or abandoned, whether any more points deductions will come their way.
Plus we're in a relegation right, but we're still above them after their points deduction.0 -
RonnieMoore said:
Were not unstable at all we now have owners in who have a good structure and more important money .. I would say this is the most stable this club been off the pitch since Richard Murray .. ( not his last few years of course )mendonca said:But it does assume the Reading player would want to move from one unstable club to another? Also, one relegation battle to another.
A bit like JCH, our bid might be accepted but it could be a waste of time and effort.
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No rumours then ......? haha
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Yes that is probably correct. Unless someone actually gets sight of the company formation prospectus that lays out who has invested what and what the longer term plans are then it's probably fitting that this is on the Rumours thread!!charltonbob said:CafcWest said:
The three in bold are employees and presumably on reasonable salaries and/or performance related pay. Methven is an investor (owner) with (alledgedly) less thatn 5% so is probably in it for a return at some point. Elliott and Gavin Carter are both non-exec directors so either unpaid or, most likely, on relatively small retainers plus expense. Not sure about Leneghan as not mentioned on the CAFC website under owners/staff.seth plum said:Because I am obsessive about Charlton Athletic.
I am pretty sure Methven will forgive me given his Theology degree and obsession for Oxford United.
Here is a question floated by several, but not yet answered.How much money per month or per year, including expenses, do Methven, Rodwell, Scott, Warrick, Leneghan, Eliot (and any other obvious ones I have forgotten) get out of the club, and does it represent good value for our legion of billionaire owners, or will we wake up one day deep in debt without the VAT and other taxes paid?
Did methven actually invest anything ? I thought he was gifted 5% as payment for "putting the deal together" ?0 -
At Charlton there has been big investment during the window and players get paid with no issues. The new ownership has put the club is in a more stable position than it’s been in years.Performances on the pitch is a different issue.Not knowing if you are getting paid every month or going to lose players / points reduction / administration as Reading fear that’s unstable.9
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Are you taking the piss?? If I was a footballer now I wouldn't be looking to join Charlton now unless they paid me good money? I might love this club but I would now want to ply for them. There is a storing chance I would be in League 2, with the goals we keep shipping in. I am still trying to work out what Manager would want to manage a team 5th from bottom in League 2 with a not very strong squad.RonnieMoore said:
Were not unstable at all we now have owners in who have a good structure and more important money .. I would say this is the most stable this club been off the pitch since Richard Murray .. ( not his last few years of course )mendonca said:But it does assume the Reading player would want to move from one unstable club to another? Also, one relegation battle to another.
A bit like JCH, our bid might be accepted but it could be a waste of time and effort.
If this was run properly, Scott would and should have pulled the plug on Appleton 10 games ago. He should have not been in charge since Jan 1st. A New manager should have been bought in with the promise of players and a budget, and a promise of x budget next season.
We fucked up.0 -
Jed Steer (GK)
JCH (Striker)
Aaron Collins (AM)
Joe Ward (WB)
Sign those 4 available players & we’ll stay up this year & go up next year.
Piece of piss football management.Dont even need Nathan Jones. I’ll do the job myself.18 -
OEY for President!!Oh Eddie Youds... said:Jed Steer (GK)
JCH (Striker)
Aaron Collins (AM)
Joe Ward (WB)
Sign those 4 available players & we’ll stay up this year & go up next year.
Piece of piss football management.Dont even need Nathan Jones. I’ll do the job myself.2 -
Just because someone else's house has burnt down, doesn't mean the fire in your kitchen doesn't exist.MintoHumbugs said:At Charlton there has been big investment during the window and players get paid with no issues. The new ownership has put the club is in a more stable position than it’s been in years.Performances on the pitch is a different issue.Not knowing if you are getting paid every month or going to lose players / points reduction / administration as Reading fear that’s unstable.0 -
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There’s a huge difference between being unstable and, pardon my French, shit.3
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Have you been drinking;)?Rudders22 said:
Are you taking the piss?? If I was a footballer now I wouldn't be looking to join Charlton now unless they paid me good money? I might love this club but I would now want to ply for them. There is a storing chance I would be in League 2, with the goals we keep shipping in. I am still trying to work out what Manager would want to manage a team 5th from bottom in League 2 with a not very strong squad.RonnieMoore said:
Were not unstable at all we now have owners in who have a good structure and more important money .. I would say this is the most stable this club been off the pitch since Richard Murray .. ( not his last few years of course )mendonca said:But it does assume the Reading player would want to move from one unstable club to another? Also, one relegation battle to another.
A bit like JCH, our bid might be accepted but it could be a waste of time and effort.
If this was run properly, Scott would and should have pulled the plug on Appleton 10 games ago. He should have not been in charge since Jan 1st. A New manager should have been bought in with the promise of players and a budget, and a promise of x budget next season.
We fucked up.4 -
15 managers in 5 years, how many sets of owners, we know players are looking to leave due to the shit show.. we are not suddenly stable just because the current mob are trying to recruit.BR7_addick said:There’s a huge difference between being unstable and, pardon my French, shit.
Get jones in and him still be in charge summer 2025 would be a start of stability. We need years or being well run to be a stable club, not 2 weeks of offers on players.6 -
My two pence worth. Charlton are financially stable. Moving from financial instability to stability can happen at the stroke of a pen. Broader stability in terms of how the club is run both on and off the pitch is far less black and white and is much harder and takes longer to turn around. I’d say at present we’re on the right tracks.8
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Yannik Bolasie has left Swansea, Tom Ince told he can leave Watford...0
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There's reason for that, they are both not very good.0
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I wish I had beensillav nitram said:
Have you been drinking;)?Rudders22 said:
Are you taking the piss?? If I was a footballer now I wouldn't be looking to join Charlton now unless they paid me good money? I might love this club but I would now want to ply for them. There is a storing chance I would be in League 2, with the goals we keep shipping in. I am still trying to work out what Manager would want to manage a team 5th from bottom in League 2 with a not very strong squad.RonnieMoore said:
Were not unstable at all we now have owners in who have a good structure and more important money .. I would say this is the most stable this club been off the pitch since Richard Murray .. ( not his last few years of course )mendonca said:But it does assume the Reading player would want to move from one unstable club to another? Also, one relegation battle to another.
A bit like JCH, our bid might be accepted but it could be a waste of time and effort.
If this was run properly, Scott would and should have pulled the plug on Appleton 10 games ago. He should have not been in charge since Jan 1st. A New manager should have been bought in with the promise of players and a budget, and a promise of x budget next season.
We fucked up.
I was trying to reply quicky to Ronnie at pace and trying to keep calm !! I tend to type fast and correct my typing after but forgot on this occasion. Also suffering from man flu and on medication. 0 -
Bolasie is the poster boy of showpony. All fart no shit.Rufus is a dogs name said:Yannik Bolasie has left Swansea, Tom Ince told her can leave Watford...2 -
I'd agree that we're generally looking to try and get back to "proper" stability. The issue for me is that while the SMT genuinely do know what they need to do and have the right intentions, their actual competence to achieve it remains questionable.ShootersHillGuru said:My two pence worth. Charlton are financially stable. Moving from financial instability to stability can happen at the stroke of a pen. Broader stability in terms of how the club is run both on and off the pitch is far less black and white and is much harder and takes longer to turn around. I’d say at present we’re on the right tracks.
This is why we need to get the next manager/coach decision correct. We can't keep lurching from mistake to mistake and getting away with it. It's impossible to make proper long term plans when you have 3 coaches in one season.1 -
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I am all for it, I said immediately we should take advantage of their situation as other clubs will, already have and they would to us, if we were in their situation.Sage said:Might not be morally right, but I’d like us to go for a couple of Reading players.
At the end of the day, we need to survive and if that means signing a player or two from Reading who are just below us, so be it.
Smith would improve us and weaken them, helping our chance of survival.
I am a Charlton supporter, not Reading. It’s not nice to see any club in any trouble, as we all well know!
But I’m not here for the “you can’t sign their players because they’re struggling and going through it”. No. If they’re a player who will improve us and we can sign them, you do it no matter who they play for.
They have some amazing talent Reading, just a club in turmoil.
I was just highlighting the utter pisstake of 75k for a player that valuable.1 -
Starting to be a bit concerned at a) Fraser not going yet and b) the general lack of outgoing rumours. We have a lot of midfielders now, surely there should be some loans out at the very least2
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Doubt anyone really wants them, although aren’t these more likely to happen in the February part of the January window?fenaddick said:Starting to be a bit concerned at a) Fraser not going yet and b) the general lack of outgoing rumours. We have a lot of midfielders now, surely there should be some loans out at the very least
I also think Fraser will go if they get Collins over the line, (or similar).0 -
Still think Fraser would be a good option at 10 in this new formation.15
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I think a lack of rumours suggests a lack of interest, even if we do want to keep them for a few more days0
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Abankwah (remember him?) has gone back to Italy https://www.charltonafc.com/news/james-abankwah-returns-udinese2
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Dreadful signing from a truly wank deadline day. Looked scared of contact when he playedfenaddick said:Abankwah (remember him?) has gone back to Italy https://www.charltonafc.com/news/james-abankwah-returns-udinese0 -
Abankwah going back does give us a slot to go and get a wingback now. One of the most forgettable loan spells ever0
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A motivated Fraser...Pelling1993 said:Still think Fraser would be a good option at 10 in this new formation.
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