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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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RonnieMoore said:
We will stay up no question we are not in a mess now we finally have good owners but their trying to work their way through the mess of the last 18 years … that’s not going to be sorted in 6 monthshoof_it_up_to_benty said:I just hope we stay up. Jones sounds a strange character based on the interviews I've heard.
I'm quite amazed at the mess we're in.
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The table does not lie.Rothko said:
But Sheffield United are proper proper shit, and are going down regardless. We're not proper proper shit, we're just meh, but that should be mid table league 1, not shit ya pants stuff that happening nowkillerandflash said:
Sheffield United this season are another example. Chris Wilder slightly improved Sheffield United when he took over, but they've reverted to being well beatenChris_from_Sidcup said:
Was going to say that when they got rid of him, the guy who came in after him (Ruben Selles) did even worse, an 11% win rate. So this pretty much shows it wasn't on the manager, their team was just abysmal.The Red Robin said:Completely ignoring his Southampton time. They failed to win their last six games at the end of the 21/22 season under Hasenhuttl. Jones came in during the November after he was sacked after winning twice in nine games. They were easily the worst team in the league regardless of manager.
Jones actually went unbeaten in his first three league games there.They won two league games in sixteen after he left.2 -
I just hope Jones can lay the groundwork for his successors. If each and every one of our managers can use their 4 or 5 months in the job to inch the club forward I believe the 2030's could be a very positive decade for Charlton.14
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It doesn’t but we saw this team is capable of picking up results. Whether they’re a bottom 4 or mid table side we shouldn’t be going over 2 months without a win.ElfsborgAddick said:
The table does not lie.Rothko said:
But Sheffield United are proper proper shit, and are going down regardless. We're not proper proper shit, we're just meh, but that should be mid table league 1, not shit ya pants stuff that happening nowkillerandflash said:
Sheffield United this season are another example. Chris Wilder slightly improved Sheffield United when he took over, but they've reverted to being well beatenChris_from_Sidcup said:
Was going to say that when they got rid of him, the guy who came in after him (Ruben Selles) did even worse, an 11% win rate. So this pretty much shows it wasn't on the manager, their team was just abysmal.The Red Robin said:Completely ignoring his Southampton time. They failed to win their last six games at the end of the 21/22 season under Hasenhuttl. Jones came in during the November after he was sacked after winning twice in nine games. They were easily the worst team in the league regardless of manager.
Jones actually went unbeaten in his first three league games there.They won two league games in sixteen after he left.
Jones needs to improve us defensively and find a way we can be effective going forward without a target man.1 -
Another episode of Jackanory.RonnieMoore said:
We will stay up no question we are not in a mess now we finally have good owners but their trying to work their way through the mess of the last 18 years … that’s not going to be sorted in 6 monthshoof_it_up_to_benty said:I just hope we stay up. Jones sounds a strange character based on the interviews I've heard.
I'm quite amazed at the mess we're in.3 -
Don't forget Leighton Phillips.soapboxsam said:We have had two Welsh Captains:
Mark Aizlewood and Don WELSH 😀0 -
It doesn't, but the comparison with Sheffield United is just nonsense, we haven't been done 8 and 5 at home this season, and look completely uselessElfsborgAddick said:
The table does not lie.Rothko said:
But Sheffield United are proper proper shit, and are going down regardless. We're not proper proper shit, we're just meh, but that should be mid table league 1, not shit ya pants stuff that happening nowkillerandflash said:
Sheffield United this season are another example. Chris Wilder slightly improved Sheffield United when he took over, but they've reverted to being well beatenChris_from_Sidcup said:
Was going to say that when they got rid of him, the guy who came in after him (Ruben Selles) did even worse, an 11% win rate. So this pretty much shows it wasn't on the manager, their team was just abysmal.The Red Robin said:Completely ignoring his Southampton time. They failed to win their last six games at the end of the 21/22 season under Hasenhuttl. Jones came in during the November after he was sacked after winning twice in nine games. They were easily the worst team in the league regardless of manager.
Jones actually went unbeaten in his first three league games there.They won two league games in sixteen after he left.0 -
Improve the whole team and we’ll be more than fine. A poor team with a good back four will still concede goals.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
It is (as with last year) down to our defence.Leuth said:We've lost a LOT of games by one goal. It isn't that we're shit ya pants terrible, it's that something is just not happening for these players. We're not far from being quite good. Hopefully Jones is the difference
Last year we scored 70 (6th highest in the divison) but conceded 66 (joint 9th worst)
This year we've scored 43 (8th highest) but conceded 46 (3rd worst).
So it's not hard to see where we need to improve. Improve the defence and we'll be fine.0 -
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Richard J said:
Don't forget Leighton Phillips.soapboxsam said:We have had two Welsh Captains:
Mark Aizlewood and Don WELSH 😀
1969-1971 Graham Moore played for Cafc.
The Welsh international surely captained the side ?
Could be quite a few 🤔2 -
I'm so hoping that NJ does come in and install a new culture, because whatever we have now is undeniably poor. I know some people (outside our fanbase) get tired of the references to Cutbs, but the last few years of watching him and his former players on the TV, I feel I know why he was successful. He built over time a club that was all pulling in the same direction. What is evident, is his players loved working for him (very hard) , and in turn the club.
To hear Browny speak, it is no nonsense, "you either ran through walls for the team, or you didn't play" was the minimum expected. Talent was a bonus.
I don't think most our players have really done their jobs very well for a long time, and there has been little accountability. If there was then they would get dropped.
I reckon NJ with a fresh nose will smell the bullshit and have a proper clear out, thus we will find out who they all are.
A rebuild is very much still on.
I'm feeling optimistic which is a rarity.
Please tear them a new one NJ.3 -
I mentioned Moore just below your previous post, Moore defo was the captain of quite a useful team, and he came to us in 1967, left in '71soapboxsam said:Richard J said:
Don't forget Leighton Phillips.soapboxsam said:We have had two Welsh Captains:
Mark Aizlewood and Don WELSH 😀
1969-1971 Graham Moore played for Cafc.
The Welsh international surely captained the side ?
Could be quite a few 🤔3 -
I wasn't talking about our squad, I was comparing Sheffield United this season, to Southampton last season. Jones failed last season at Soton because the team wasn't good enough, ditto Wilder at Sheffield this season.Rothko said:
But Sheffield United are proper proper shit, and are going down regardless. We're not proper proper shit, we're just meh, but that should be mid table league 1, not shit ya pants stuff that happening nowkillerandflash said:
Sheffield United this season are another example. Chris Wilder slightly improved Sheffield United when he took over, but they've reverted to being well beatenChris_from_Sidcup said:
Was going to say that when they got rid of him, the guy who came in after him (Ruben Selles) did even worse, an 11% win rate. So this pretty much shows it wasn't on the manager, their team was just abysmal.The Red Robin said:Completely ignoring his Southampton time. They failed to win their last six games at the end of the 21/22 season under Hasenhuttl. Jones came in during the November after he was sacked after winning twice in nine games. They were easily the worst team in the league regardless of manager.
Jones actually went unbeaten in his first three league games there.They won two league games in sixteen after he left.
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This week, NJ needs to get confidence back in the players, get them playing with a smile on their faces, rather than going out there petrified about making the mistake which will cost us a goal, or snatch at a chance to score instead of cooly finishing.8
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Thanks for sharing this, a big help for someone like me who does not really study non Charlton managers tactics and style of play.Southbank said:
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2 very good articles from Chicago Addick, well worth a read!0
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Fergie took 5 years to win a trophy, no pressure Nath!Jayajosh said:Give him time even if it means a few defeats. Alex Ferguson was a disaster at MU for half his first season, got rid of the deadwood, and then nailed it. A culture change is necessary here.1 -
There’s a lot of quite clever bods on here, but I don’t think they’ve mastered the art of time travel….. yet.RC_CAFC said:I'm really impatient for Saturday now!0 -
Fact ..redbuttle said:
Another episode of Jackanory.RonnieMoore said:
We will stay up no question we are not in a mess now we finally have good owners but their trying to work their way through the mess of the last 18 years … that’s not going to be sorted in 6 monthshoof_it_up_to_benty said:I just hope we stay up. Jones sounds a strange character based on the interviews I've heard.
I'm quite amazed at the mess we're in.3 -
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RonnieMoore said:
Fact ..redbuttle said:
Another episode of Jackanory.RonnieMoore said:
We will stay up no question we are not in a mess now we finally have good owners but their trying to work their way through the mess of the last 18 years … that’s not going to be sorted in 6 monthshoof_it_up_to_benty said:I just hope we stay up. Jones sounds a strange character based on the interviews I've heard.
I'm quite amazed at the mess we're in.
Glad you admit it, at last.
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Great...so you are agreeing with @redbuttle...🤷♂️RonnieMoore said:
Fact ..redbuttle said:
Another episode of Jackanory.RonnieMoore said:
We will stay up no question we are not in a mess now we finally have good owners but their trying to work their way through the mess of the last 18 years … that’s not going to be sorted in 6 monthshoof_it_up_to_benty said:I just hope we stay up. Jones sounds a strange character based on the interviews I've heard.
I'm quite amazed at the mess we're in.1 -
Well we sorted the announcing of the managers contract to take place yesterday whilst being told it couldn’t happen because the LMA couldn’t rubber stamp it because they don’t work weekends.RonnieMoore said:
We will stay up no question we are not in a mess now we finally have good owners but their trying to work their way through the mess of the last 18 years … that’s not going to be sorted in 6 monthshoof_it_up_to_benty said:I just hope we stay up. Jones sounds a strange character based on the interviews I've heard.
I'm quite amazed at the mess we're in.2 -
Think Nathan might be the first Welsh manager though.Lincsaddick said:
I mentioned Moore just below your previous post, Moore defo was the captain of quite a useful team, and he came to us in 1967, left in '71soapboxsam said:Richard J said:
Don't forget Leighton Phillips.soapboxsam said:We have had two Welsh Captains:
Mark Aizlewood and Don WELSH 😀
1969-1971 Graham Moore played for Cafc.
The Welsh international surely captained the side ?
Could be quite a few 🤔0 -
If you were going into work today, what type
of manager would motivate you?
a slightly eccentric character like jones who has had relative success and a reasonable track record
or
a dull character with little personality with a below average track record like Appleton?
I think this will be a good appointment17 -
I have not compared us to Sheffield United.Rothko said:
It doesn't, but the comparison with Sheffield United is just nonsense, we haven't been done 8 and 5 at home this season, and look completely uselessElfsborgAddick said:
The table does not lie.Rothko said:
But Sheffield United are proper proper shit, and are going down regardless. We're not proper proper shit, we're just meh, but that should be mid table league 1, not shit ya pants stuff that happening nowkillerandflash said:
Sheffield United this season are another example. Chris Wilder slightly improved Sheffield United when he took over, but they've reverted to being well beatenChris_from_Sidcup said:
Was going to say that when they got rid of him, the guy who came in after him (Ruben Selles) did even worse, an 11% win rate. So this pretty much shows it wasn't on the manager, their team was just abysmal.The Red Robin said:Completely ignoring his Southampton time. They failed to win their last six games at the end of the 21/22 season under Hasenhuttl. Jones came in during the November after he was sacked after winning twice in nine games. They were easily the worst team in the league regardless of manager.
Jones actually went unbeaten in his first three league games there.They won two league games in sixteen after he left.0 -
Killerflash did as part of the thread, do keep up dear chapElfsborgAddick said:
I have not compared us to Sheffield United.Rothko said:
It doesn't, but the comparison with Sheffield United is just nonsense, we haven't been done 8 and 5 at home this season, and look completely uselessElfsborgAddick said:
The table does not lie.Rothko said:
But Sheffield United are proper proper shit, and are going down regardless. We're not proper proper shit, we're just meh, but that should be mid table league 1, not shit ya pants stuff that happening nowkillerandflash said:
Sheffield United this season are another example. Chris Wilder slightly improved Sheffield United when he took over, but they've reverted to being well beatenChris_from_Sidcup said:
Was going to say that when they got rid of him, the guy who came in after him (Ruben Selles) did even worse, an 11% win rate. So this pretty much shows it wasn't on the manager, their team was just abysmal.The Red Robin said:Completely ignoring his Southampton time. They failed to win their last six games at the end of the 21/22 season under Hasenhuttl. Jones came in during the November after he was sacked after winning twice in nine games. They were easily the worst team in the league regardless of manager.
Jones actually went unbeaten in his first three league games there.They won two league games in sixteen after he left.0 -
On paper, on reputation, he is the best manger we've recruited in a long time.
Need I remind everyone of the absolute shite we've had at our club in recent history. The RD years, the loose cannon approach of TS... The list is long.
Yes there are exceptions with LB, and JJ, who wasn't given a fair crack at the whip, but was also extremely inexperienced, however to entice NJ here now, with the club where it's at, regardless of his so called failure at the clubs that were also a feckin basket case at that time, is a major result.
We need a reset. We need to start again. I believe he can do this with us, we have to believe he can do this for us, because we've run out of options now, we are potentially looking at the 4th tier of the football pyramid if we're not careful.
We've no choice but to get behind Jones and help him, with the unique passionate resolve that Charlton supporters posses, to make a real go of this.21 -
Lincsaddick said:
I mentioned Moore just below your previous post, Moore defo was the captain of quite a useful team, and he came to us in 1967, left in '71soapboxsam said:Richard J said:
Don't forget Leighton Phillips.soapboxsam said:We have had two Welsh Captains:
Mark Aizlewood and Don WELSH 😀
1969-1971 Graham Moore played for Cafc.
The Welsh international surely captained the side ?
Could be quite a few 🤔
Yep, was manager Eddie Firmani's team skipper, used to cajole and drive the team on.
I can remember him often lifting a player, crying out: "C'mon!, C'mon!"
Proper old school skipper, who led by example.
Strong but cultured midfielder -could tackle, pass with flair plus arrive late on the edge of the box with his trademark piledriver to ripple the back of the net.
Could we do with a player like him now!
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I compared Nathan Jones' SOUTHAMPTON team to Sheffield UnitedRothko said:
Killerflash did as part of the thread, do keep up dear chapElfsborgAddick said:
I have not compared us to Sheffield United.Rothko said:
It doesn't, but the comparison with Sheffield United is just nonsense, we haven't been done 8 and 5 at home this season, and look completely uselessElfsborgAddick said:
The table does not lie.Rothko said:
But Sheffield United are proper proper shit, and are going down regardless. We're not proper proper shit, we're just meh, but that should be mid table league 1, not shit ya pants stuff that happening nowkillerandflash said:
Sheffield United this season are another example. Chris Wilder slightly improved Sheffield United when he took over, but they've reverted to being well beatenChris_from_Sidcup said:
Was going to say that when they got rid of him, the guy who came in after him (Ruben Selles) did even worse, an 11% win rate. So this pretty much shows it wasn't on the manager, their team was just abysmal.The Red Robin said:Completely ignoring his Southampton time. They failed to win their last six games at the end of the 21/22 season under Hasenhuttl. Jones came in during the November after he was sacked after winning twice in nine games. They were easily the worst team in the league regardless of manager.
Jones actually went unbeaten in his first three league games there.They won two league games in sixteen after he left.3
