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Anyone dealt with Red Robins Retro?
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About 6 weeks?cfgs said:Any idea how long delivery took when you guys ordered?0 -
Anyone know when they next release a new batch?0
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best bet is to keep an eyer on their twitter, it's normally once a production/delivery run of the previous shirt has been completed1
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CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.
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I typed in for their website and all it had was one Viglen shirt that had sold out.
I expected some kind of catalogue of examples.4 -
Can anyone start making knock offs? I'd assume you'd need permission from the club for the Trademark.3
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I doubt they have permission from the club or the various original manufacturersPopIcon said:Can anyone start making knock offs? I'd assume you'd need permission from the club for the Trademark.0 -
Can 'retros' be made if manufacturers have now ceased trading?
I'm assuming it is a no with the Osca tops not being available.
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When you say printed on, do you mean that rubbery stuff that comes off after a few washes?Pelling1993 said:Yeah got a couple they're very good. My only gripe is that the stomach sponsors logo is printed on rather than the sort of soft touch felt it should be/was. Although I knew that before ordering0 -
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.14 - Sponsored links:
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Yeah the rubber style print. Must say the shirts I have from Robins Retro have held up well to washes though. The Llanera kits were the absolute worst for thatAddicksAddict said:
When you say printed on, do you mean that rubbery stuff that comes off after a few washes?Pelling1993 said:Yeah got a couple they're very good. My only gripe is that the stomach sponsors logo is printed on rather than the sort of soft touch felt it should be/was. Although I knew that before ordering0 -
I’m surprised the club haven’t stopped it to be honest, particularly given it’s been advertised by the museum, CAST etc so they must know about it!Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.
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it’s not worth the fuss, especially as they can’t recreate them anyway. If the club owned and operated the club shop it would be a different storySollied said:
I’m surprised the club haven’t stopped it to be honest, particularly given it’s been advertised by the museum, CAST etc so they must know about it!Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.0 -
no point in the club stopping it if they aren't going to do it themselves. there's clearly a market for these and fair play to Red Robins Retro, I've got one and it's really goodSollied said:
I’m surprised the club haven’t stopped it to be honest, particularly given it’s been advertised by the museum, CAST etc so they must know about it!Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.0 -
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He takes pre-orders and produces 2 shirts at a time generally. He is currently taking votes for which shirt to do next I believeseth plum said:0 -
Any discount on Peckham Spring Water?Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.0 -
Don't remember the museum "advertising" them.Sollied said:
I’m surprised the club haven’t stopped it to be honest, particularly given it’s been advertised by the museum, CAST etc so they must know about it!Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.
Personally not got any issue with the shirts other than wish we'd thought of it first1 -
If authentic replicas were being sold by the club or sports brand it'd be iffy because you're undercutting them/ redirecting business.Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.
But given the limited scale and audience surely it's negligible to both the club and sports brand.
The club blocking it would only cause loss of goodwill as it's really not affecting their commercial interests or reputation (especially as an army of male and female model like addicks will be wearing them and promoting the club) so no issue and doubt it would be on the major sports brands' radar as we're not Manchester United and they've probably got their hands full cracking down on knock offs in China etc.
It's a product that wouldn't exist if this company didnt do them and causes no harm to club or sports brand and aimed at a severely niche market so no harm done surely.1 -
All true but some clubs and some brands can be very "hot" on these things.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
If authentic replicas were being sold by the club or sports brand it'd be iffy because you're undercutting them/ redirecting business.Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.
But given the limited scale and audience surely it's negligible to both the club and sports brand.
The club blocking it would only cause loss of goodwill as it's really not affecting their commercial interests or reputation (especially as an army of male and female model like addicks will be wearing them and promoting the club) so no issue and doubt it would be on the major sports brands' radar as we're not Manchester United and they've probably got their hands full cracking down on knock offs in China etc.
It's a product that wouldn't exist if this company didnt do them and causes no harm to club or sports brand and aimed at a severely niche market so no harm done surely.
Bottom line is that they hold the copyright.3 - Sponsored links:
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Im not sure who owns what when it comes to old football shirt designs. Score Draw make decent replicas, but they don't feature the OG manufacturers logo, although the actual shirt design is the same. They also omit the 3 stripes down the shoulders if they appeared on a kit originally made by Adidas. It seems the football clubs own the shirt design that's part of the main fabric, and the manufacturers logos are owned by their respective companies of course. So you could get the wrath of the club and OG manufacturer having their logo sold without their permission. That's if they can be bothered to chase after operations like this, and I very much doubt they would be.1
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perhaps they can branch out and do calendars, mugs, car stickers and all the other things the club doesn’t bother to sell.5
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Just seen on Twitter, Blue Woolwich shirt available now.0
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Can’t see it on their website yet?stackitsteve said:Just seen on Twitter, Blue Woolwich shirt available now.
https://redrobinsretro.bigcartel.com/products
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Is there not an onus on the club to protect their copyright/trade marks (I.e badge, name etc).Elthamaddick said:
no point in the club stopping it if they aren't going to do it themselves. there's clearly a market for these and fair play to Red Robins Retro, I've got one and it's really goodSollied said:
I’m surprised the club haven’t stopped it to be honest, particularly given it’s been advertised by the museum, CAST etc so they must know about it!Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.I vaguely recall Arsenal taking some guy that sold fake merchandise near the stadium on match days to court. I think part of their argument was essentially that they didn’t really want to take him to court (believe that if you will), however if they didn’t take steps to enforce their rights then it could be open season.
Summary here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_Football_Club_v_Reed1 -
Hi mate. What size did you go for?Pelling1993 said:
I had the original of that ecru one but lost it!! 😭0 -
yeah I agree - however there's a bit of a difference in Premier League Arsenal and us (lower L1 club)se9addick said:
Is there not an onus on the club to protect their copyright/trade marks (I.e badge, name etc).Elthamaddick said:
no point in the club stopping it if they aren't going to do it themselves. there's clearly a market for these and fair play to Red Robins Retro, I've got one and it's really goodSollied said:
I’m surprised the club haven’t stopped it to be honest, particularly given it’s been advertised by the museum, CAST etc so they must know about it!Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.I vaguely recall Arsenal taking some guy that sold fake merchandise near the stadium on match days to court. I think part of their argument was essentially that they didn’t really want to take him to court (believe that if you will), however if they didn’t take steps to enforce their rights then it could be open season.
Summary here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_Football_Club_v_Reed
I doubt there's a huge demand for our gear in comparison0 -
I'd agree but the club don't even run the club shop.se9addick said:
Is there not an onus on the club to protect their copyright/trade marks (I.e badge, name etc).Elthamaddick said:
no point in the club stopping it if they aren't going to do it themselves. there's clearly a market for these and fair play to Red Robins Retro, I've got one and it's really goodSollied said:
I’m surprised the club haven’t stopped it to be honest, particularly given it’s been advertised by the museum, CAST etc so they must know about it!Talal said:
Must admit I'm a little surprised the trust are supporting what are essentially fakes. Decent fakes mind, but still fakes.castrust said:CAST members can now claim a discount from Red Robins Retro - visit the members' hub on www.castrust.org for more details on this and other exclusive offers.
Members can navigate to the Members Hub, via the 'Help The Trust' tab, and logging in that way - alternatively via the 'Join' tab too.I vaguely recall Arsenal taking some guy that sold fake merchandise near the stadium on match days to court. I think part of their argument was essentially that they didn’t really want to take him to court (believe that if you will), however if they didn’t take steps to enforce their rights then it could be open season.
Summary here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_Football_Club_v_Reed
If they brought retail back in house and started to look at the retail sales in more detail then it would make sense to deter people doing this sort of thing, if for no other reason than to allow them to do it themselves.
But right now I imagine they have other, bigger issues on their minds.0 -
that ecru shirt doesn't look right colour to mepaulsturgess said:
Hi mate. What size did you go for?Pelling1993 said:I had the original of that ecru one but lost it!! 😭0 -
You can pick the original Ecru shirts up for less than what these guys charged.MrOneLung said:
that ecru shirt doesn't look right colour to mepaulsturgess said:
Hi mate. What size did you go for?Pelling1993 said:I had the original of that ecru one but lost it!! 😭0
