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The Ends to The Valley - Part 1: Chuks Aneke //
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100% that’s what I was hoping for toosillav nitram said:While I know it was a reflection of his roots and journey but I’d have been more interested to know how he’s coped with his injury nightmare these past few seasons, which may have told us more about the man.1 -
As a resident of Cherry Orchard Estate until my early 20’s, I’m proud to know I came from the Ends 👍1
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Or, From the East End to the Covered End.Lewis Coaches said:Title could read.
East end boy to The Valley.0 -
Guys.He grew up on a train platform. Charlton train station no less.He’s proper, PROPER Charlton
God, the trains he would have seen …12 -
From on your arse to on the grassRedskin said:
Or, From the East End to the Covered End.Lewis Coaches said:Title could read.
East end boy to The Valley.0 -
‘South London & Proud’…a sound bite that’s been chucked around a lot over the last few years by Palace. They’ve released videos of interviews with local players, covering their journeys, the connection to the club, the local area etc etc. It’s shot through filters to give it an edgier look and given backing music from the latest grime beats. They are incredibly popular with the younger diverse communities they are aimed at.It resonates and it attracts! The younger generation consume football in a very different way. For example, my youngest (14) comes to the odd game, doesn’t really fancy it week in week out and never watches a match on TV. But he’ll update me with all the Insta stories the club puts out. First thing he sent today was Chuks video. “Chuks is cool you know”. (Cue the, “you can find out if you come every week angling”). Social media spreads far and wide in an instant!Representation is important and seeing a player, who comes from somewhere like you, looks like you, has the same micro culture influences in clothing, music, language allows some people to resonate with it.South London is an incredibly diverse area and media snippets like this not only attract attention but help the community connect with the club, especially from younger audiences.7
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I think it was trying to show where Chuks came from, which I think it did pretty well. I don’t see why everything has to been seen in a negative light ?TEL said:Stupid title. Not sure really why they bothered. I like the bloke, when fit he's a great footballer but the rest I don't really need to know or care about. The ends? Never heard of that and spent my first 17 years on various council estates, not that you need to know or care about either😊
I had no idea what the title meant either, but happy to learn something new.0 -
Lewis Coaches said:So hard to understand him, and I am an East End boy.
I've wondered for years where this dialect/ London accent emerged from.
None of the afro carribean people I know and have known my age speak like that, they have traditional cockney or well spoken accents and from Hackney etc not just my suburban chums and school mates. So whilst it may derive from a Windrush patois it doesn't seem to have chronologically followed. Would like me be talking in an Irish Polish accent in that respect.
Watching TV from 70s and 80s everyone spoke with a 'traditional' London accent in shows like Minder, Fools n horses and The Bill etc so seems to be quite a moden (last 20 years) phenomenon.
Obviously accents change over time but seems to be a quite rapid change that this is now the default young London accent and not only in the endz but also in the burbs n'all Black white or whatever. Notice it with footballers being interviewed too.
Probably a bit like me and my mates mockneying it up a bit when we were younger and now it's stuck but does seem to have derived from quite an affected origin which Sacha Baron Cohen noted with Ali G and now seems mainstream rather than parody.5 -
Brought back a few memories. The hours I spent in that park kicking a ball around with my mates or getting up to mischief. My old infant & junior school in the background in that video too.Foxycafc said:
Who knew Chuks was the second best player to have graced the hallowed turf of Brampton Park...3 -
...also, does this also mean I'm from the Ends too? How very edgy and exciting.3
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Bournemouth Addick cruising up Newhaw way with the lads, just chilling out in da Endz
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Chuks seems like a nice guy. Like the way he handles himself to be fair. Love the Charlton station thing , amazing. Hope he keeps us up and can play a big part next season in something better 🤷🏼♂️🙏1
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All part of the dumbing down of the English language. Dominos ads tell me I can get a large pizza for fourteen quid, the weather girl tells me to expect a splodge of rain overnight, the continuity people between programmes don’t enunciate properly. Does my head in, as does text speak like l8r etc.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Lewis Coaches said:So hard to understand him, and I am an East End boy.
I've wondered for years where this dialect/ London accent emerged from.
None of the afro carribean people I know and have known my age speak like that, they have traditional cockney or well spoken accents and from Hackney etc not just my suburban chums and school mates. So whilst it may derive from a Windrush patois it doesn't seem to have chronologically followed. Would like me be talking in an Irish Polish accent in that respect.
Watching TV from 70s and 80s everyone spoke with a 'traditional' London accent in shows like Minder, Fools n horses and The Bill etc so seems to be quite a moden (last 20 years) phenomenon.
Obviously accents change over time but seems to be a quite rapid change that this is now the default young London accent and not only in the endz but also in the burbs n'all Black white or whatever. Notice it with footballers being interviewed too.
Probably a bit like me and my mates mockneying it up a bit when we were younger and now it's stuck but does seem to have derived from quite an affected origin which Sacha Baron Cohen noted with Ali G and now seems mainstream rather than parody.2 -
soz m8.LargeAddick said:
All part of the dumbing down of the English language. Dominos ads tell me I can get a large pizza for fourteen quid, the weather girl tells me to expect a splodge of rain overnight, the continuity people between programmes don’t enunciate properly. Does my head in, as does text speak like l8r etc.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Lewis Coaches said:So hard to understand him, and I am an East End boy.
I've wondered for years where this dialect/ London accent emerged from.
None of the afro carribean people I know and have known my age speak like that, they have traditional cockney or well spoken accents and from Hackney etc not just my suburban chums and school mates. So whilst it may derive from a Windrush patois it doesn't seem to have chronologically followed. Would like me be talking in an Irish Polish accent in that respect.
Watching TV from 70s and 80s everyone spoke with a 'traditional' London accent in shows like Minder, Fools n horses and The Bill etc so seems to be quite a moden (last 20 years) phenomenon.
Obviously accents change over time but seems to be a quite rapid change that this is now the default young London accent and not only in the endz but also in the burbs n'all Black white or whatever. Notice it with footballers being interviewed too.
Probably a bit like me and my mates mockneying it up a bit when we were younger and now it's stuck but does seem to have derived from quite an affected origin which Sacha Baron Cohen noted with Ali G and now seems mainstream rather than parody.3 -
Jesus, it’s just the title of a short film the club made targeted at younger fans.Braziliance said:
Ah the whole thing is tragic, that's why I am not a fan of anything that endorses a phrase like that at all. Saying things like 'The Ends' from a professional football club is just straight up weird imo. It was used as a joke when I was growing up in South London, now it appears to be used as a mark of pride claiming you're from a rough part of London. Been a victim of crime a few times, it's nothing to be proud of, and that's the nature of the block type areas in Londin. I've far enjoyed my living lifestyle in places like Sheffield, Nottingham, Essex, Kent etc far more.YTS1978 said:
This reminded me of something funny. I used to go to an african club in manor park years back with an ex girlfriend. Was in there one night and some young guy was getting a bit lively. Kinda accosted me and was being a bit lairy towards me. Was asking "where you out of" and all that shit. I couldn't be bothered to explain, so just went "Charlton". Mistake. Turned out he had "some beef with dem Boyz off the cherry estate"! I then had to spend abt 20mins talking him and his mates down from giving me a kicking. Fun night. He demanded my mobile number and obvs I gave it to him. I'd then get random calls every now and then from him asking if I wanted "food"...this is well before Top Boy lol. He went by the name of FRANK as in the drugs advice service haha! Anyway, I'll give the video a watch, sounds interesting.Braziliance said:What a dumb bloody title.
The Valley is 'The Ends'. We are on the door step of Cherry Orchard and plenty of rough estates, he's hardly gone from Peckham to the Bernabeu, Christ.
From, former proud resident of The Ends
The problem is, it's seen as cool nowadays. You have young lads living in Kent, attempting to put on an accent, trying to bring London antics down here.
I think I'll be due another move if Kent ends up anything like London, no thanks. 🙄6 -
Language evolves, that’s a good thing. I’m sure you don’t speak like someone from the 1800s and they would think you were dumbing down the English language.LargeAddick said:
All part of the dumbing down of the English language. Dominos ads tell me I can get a large pizza for fourteen quid, the weather girl tells me to expect a splodge of rain overnight, the continuity people between programmes don’t enunciate properly. Does my head in, as does text speak like l8r etc.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Lewis Coaches said:So hard to understand him, and I am an East End boy.
I've wondered for years where this dialect/ London accent emerged from.
None of the afro carribean people I know and have known my age speak like that, they have traditional cockney or well spoken accents and from Hackney etc not just my suburban chums and school mates. So whilst it may derive from a Windrush patois it doesn't seem to have chronologically followed. Would like me be talking in an Irish Polish accent in that respect.
Watching TV from 70s and 80s everyone spoke with a 'traditional' London accent in shows like Minder, Fools n horses and The Bill etc so seems to be quite a moden (last 20 years) phenomenon.
Obviously accents change over time but seems to be a quite rapid change that this is now the default young London accent and not only in the endz but also in the burbs n'all Black white or whatever. Notice it with footballers being interviewed too.
Probably a bit like me and my mates mockneying it up a bit when we were younger and now it's stuck but does seem to have derived from quite an affected origin which Sacha Baron Cohen noted with Ali G and now seems mainstream rather than parody.2 -
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I too was finding it challenging to understand everything he was saying, so I put subtitles on...........which then confused me to a whole new level.
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Exactly, the language has constantly evolved, and we’re now in a generation who use MLE (Multicultural London English) which smashes all the cultures in the city together.fenaddick said:
Language evolves, that’s a good thing. I’m sure you don’t speak like someone from the 1800s and they would think you were dumbing down the English language.LargeAddick said:
All part of the dumbing down of the English language. Dominos ads tell me I can get a large pizza for fourteen quid, the weather girl tells me to expect a splodge of rain overnight, the continuity people between programmes don’t enunciate properly. Does my head in, as does text speak like l8r etc.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Lewis Coaches said:So hard to understand him, and I am an East End boy.
I've wondered for years where this dialect/ London accent emerged from.
None of the afro carribean people I know and have known my age speak like that, they have traditional cockney or well spoken accents and from Hackney etc not just my suburban chums and school mates. So whilst it may derive from a Windrush patois it doesn't seem to have chronologically followed. Would like me be talking in an Irish Polish accent in that respect.
Watching TV from 70s and 80s everyone spoke with a 'traditional' London accent in shows like Minder, Fools n horses and The Bill etc so seems to be quite a moden (last 20 years) phenomenon.
Obviously accents change over time but seems to be a quite rapid change that this is now the default young London accent and not only in the endz but also in the burbs n'all Black white or whatever. Notice it with footballers being interviewed too.
Probably a bit like me and my mates mockneying it up a bit when we were younger and now it's stuck but does seem to have derived from quite an affected origin which Sacha Baron Cohen noted with Ali G and now seems mainstream rather than parody.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/the-common-tongue-of-twenty-first-century-london
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Christ that's some self indulgent bullshit.Rothko said:
Exactly, the language has constantly evolved, and we’re now in a generation who use MLE (Multicultural London English) which smashes all the cultures in the city together.fenaddick said:
Language evolves, that’s a good thing. I’m sure you don’t speak like someone from the 1800s and they would think you were dumbing down the English language.LargeAddick said:
All part of the dumbing down of the English language. Dominos ads tell me I can get a large pizza for fourteen quid, the weather girl tells me to expect a splodge of rain overnight, the continuity people between programmes don’t enunciate properly. Does my head in, as does text speak like l8r etc.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Lewis Coaches said:So hard to understand him, and I am an East End boy.
I've wondered for years where this dialect/ London accent emerged from.
None of the afro carribean people I know and have known my age speak like that, they have traditional cockney or well spoken accents and from Hackney etc not just my suburban chums and school mates. So whilst it may derive from a Windrush patois it doesn't seem to have chronologically followed. Would like me be talking in an Irish Polish accent in that respect.
Watching TV from 70s and 80s everyone spoke with a 'traditional' London accent in shows like Minder, Fools n horses and The Bill etc so seems to be quite a moden (last 20 years) phenomenon.
Obviously accents change over time but seems to be a quite rapid change that this is now the default young London accent and not only in the endz but also in the burbs n'all Black white or whatever. Notice it with footballers being interviewed too.
Probably a bit like me and my mates mockneying it up a bit when we were younger and now it's stuck but does seem to have derived from quite an affected origin which Sacha Baron Cohen noted with Ali G and now seems mainstream rather than parody.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/the-common-tongue-of-twenty-first-century-london
She comes across as the kind of person you meet and instantly want to get away from as they tell you their theories of why you are who you are.0 -
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Interesting and enlightening post thanks.drawnablank said:‘South London & Proud’…a sound bite that’s been chucked around a lot over the last few years by Palace. They’ve released videos of interviews with local players, covering their journeys, the connection to the club, the local area etc etc. It’s shot through filters to give it an edgier look and given backing music from the latest grime beats. They are incredibly popular with the younger diverse communities they are aimed at.It resonates and it attracts! The younger generation consume football in a very different way. For example, my youngest (14) comes to the odd game, doesn’t really fancy it week in week out and never watches a match on TV. But he’ll update me with all the Insta stories the club puts out. First thing he sent today was Chuks video. “Chuks is cool you know”. (Cue the, “you can find out if you come every week angling”). Social media spreads far and wide in an instant!Representation is important and seeing a player, who comes from somewhere like you, looks like you, has the same micro culture influences in clothing, music, language allows some people to resonate with it.South London is an incredibly diverse area and media snippets like this not only attract attention but help the community connect with the club, especially from younger audiences.
God I feel old.0
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