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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited February 2024
    Ultra critical maybe but I still don’t understand why, when their bloke turned onto their weaker foot on a narrower angle, Dobbo thought that was the right time to go to ground and attempt a block.

    Give credit to their man for the fancy footwork but I’d have thought if there was any time to throw yourself at a shot, it’s when he turns onto his strong foot at a better angle, not his weak foot at a narrow angle.
  • All the while Coventry stood and watched. 
  • All the while Coventry stood and watched. 
    Are you sure you are not getting REG and Coventry muddled.

    Coventry takes up a good position behind Dobson, their guy turns away from Coventry and dobson goes with him. Dobson goes with the man and Coventry defends the space. 

    Their guy turns again and Coventry is still where you would expect him as he is protecting the space in front of the back 3. Dobson may have done better and stayed on his feet which meant he could have blocked the shot. Although their guy did well. 

    As their guy turned Dobson for the final time, REG moved to block the shot and then moved his head away from the flight of the ball.

    Coventry did nothing wrong
    dobson Was twisted and turned and couldn't challenge as the ref would have given a pen
    REG should have been braver and not moved out the way.
  • I agree. REG didn’t provide proper back up imo. Contrast that with Lloyd Jones getting back to close down their striker when Small played him through with the early back pass. I said a while back we needed to get to the point where other players were covering so that one defensive error didn’t automatically lead to conceding a goal. Was good to see some progress on this yesterday. Ridiculously harsh to scapegoat Dobbo. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    All the while Coventry stood and watched. 
    Are you sure you are not getting REG and Coventry muddled.

    Coventry takes up a good position behind Dobson, their guy turns away from Coventry and dobson goes with him. Dobson goes with the man and Coventry defends the space. 

    Their guy turns again and Coventry is still where you would expect him as he is protecting the space in front of the back 3. Dobson may have done better and stayed on his feet which meant he could have blocked the shot. Although their guy did well. 

    As their guy turned Dobson for the final time, REG moved to block the shot and then moved his head away from the flight of the ball.

    Coventry did nothing wrong
    dobson Was twisted and turned and couldn't challenge as the ref would have given a pen
    REG should have been braver and not moved out the way.
    I think Dobson slipped as well .. there no blame there from anyone .. but the first goal Dobson should have stopped the cross went to ground to soon 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,557
    All the while Coventry stood and watched. 
    Are you sure you are not getting REG and Coventry muddled.

    Coventry takes up a good position behind Dobson, their guy turns away from Coventry and dobson goes with him. Dobson goes with the man and Coventry defends the space. 

    Their guy turns again and Coventry is still where you would expect him as he is protecting the space in front of the back 3. Dobson may have done better and stayed on his feet which meant he could have blocked the shot. Although their guy did well. 

    As their guy turned Dobson for the final time, REG moved to block the shot and then moved his head away from the flight of the ball.

    Coventry did nothing wrong
    dobson Was twisted and turned and couldn't challenge as the ref would have given a pen
    REG should have been braver and not moved out the way.
    I think Dobson slipped as well .. there no blame there from anyone .. but the first goal Dobson should have stopped the cross went to ground to soon 
    The first goal Thomas was firstly not strong enough then let Adebayo get in front of him. Yes the cros# could have been defended better but down to Thomas in my opinion.
  • All the while Coventry stood and watched. 
    Are you sure you are not getting REG and Coventry muddled.

    Coventry takes up a good position behind Dobson, their guy turns away from Coventry and dobson goes with him. Dobson goes with the man and Coventry defends the space. 

    Their guy turns again and Coventry is still where you would expect him as he is protecting the space in front of the back 3. Dobson may have done better and stayed on his feet which meant he could have blocked the shot. Although their guy did well. 

    As their guy turned Dobson for the final time, REG moved to block the shot and then moved his head away from the flight of the ball.

    Coventry did nothing wrong
    dobson Was twisted and turned and couldn't challenge as the ref would have given a pen
    REG should have been braver and not moved out the way.
    I think Dobson slipped as well .. there no blame there from anyone .. but the first goal Dobson should have stopped the cross went to ground to soon 
    The first goal Thomas was firstly not strong enough then let Adebayo get in front of him. Yes the cros# could have been defended better but down to Thomas in my opinion.
    Same with REG for the third.
  • Think we’re all being ultra critical of Dobson and REG, if one of ours had scored that goal we’d be singing his praises not saying well their midfielder should have done better with the block or their defender shouldn’t have moved his head.
    Ffs it was a good well taken goal.
  • Bournesnr said:
    Think we’re all being ultra critical of Dobson and REG, if one of ours had scored that goal we’d be singing his praises not saying well their midfielder should have done better with the block or their defender shouldn’t have moved his head.
    Ffs it was a good well taken goal.
    Except REG didn't fancy a ball
    in the face and ducked out of it. Professional footballers doing that is poor
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,982
    edited February 2024
    Bournesnr said:
    Think we’re all being ultra critical of Dobson and REG, if one of ours had scored that goal we’d be singing his praises not saying well their midfielder should have done better with the block or their defender shouldn’t have moved his head.
    Ffs it was a good well taken goal.
    Except REG didn't fancy a ball
    in the face and ducked out of it. Professional footballers doing that is poor
    Nor did Watson for the first and turned his back on the cross.
    Dobson "busting a gut" to try and block it.
    Watson turned his back and made no attempt to block the ball and yet the only criticism re the cross is aimed at Dobson.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Bournesnr said:
    Think we’re all being ultra critical of Dobson and REG, if one of ours had scored that goal we’d be singing his praises not saying well their midfielder should have done better with the block or their defender shouldn’t have moved his head.
    Ffs it was a good well taken goal.
    Except REG didn't fancy a ball
    in the face and ducked out of it. Professional footballers doing that is poor
    Nor did Watson for the first and turned his back on the cross.
    Dobson "busting a gut" to try and block it.
    Watson turned his back and made no attempt to block the ball and yet the only criticism re the cross is aimed at Dobson.
    Both of them got done by the movement of the Bolton players at the throw in and left them with too much to do to get back to block the crosser.
  • Bournesnr said:
    Think we’re all being ultra critical of Dobson and REG, if one of ours had scored that goal we’d be singing his praises not saying well their midfielder should have done better with the block or their defender shouldn’t have moved his head.
    Ffs it was a good well taken goal.
    Except REG didn't fancy a ball
    in the face and ducked out of it. Professional footballers doing that is poor
    Nor did Watson for the first and turned his back on the cross.
    Dobson "busting a gut" to try and block it.
    Watson turned his back and made no attempt to block the ball and yet the only criticism re the cross is aimed at Dobson.
    I've only seen (or registered) one comment criticising Dobson for the cross and that was from Ronnie!
  • Did you see how easy their defender was turned for Kanu’s goal disgraceful.
  • @Todds_right_hook @Weegie Addick

    Ah yes, you are correct. Only watched it in real time. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    I think that there's a bit of over-analysis going on here. I don't think Dobson is particularly culpable but honestly it's hard to say that anyone actually is to "blame" - the scorer pulled off a really neat bit of skill and a great finish.

    If the same thing happened ten more times, 9 of them end up with Dobson knicking the ball off his toe or the ball runs away from the Bolton player or the shot hits REG or just straight up misses the target.

    It's bad luck for us, a great goal for Bolton and sometimes that's just how it goes. 
  • First unikum of the year. We win agai, at first home game too. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    edited February 2024
    First unikum of the year. We win agai, at first home game too. 
    You should have asked for a glass.  Drinking out of a plastic is not satisfactory.

    Do you have sugar with your coffee btw?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    The issue I have with the goal was that one of the defending players should have said to to other to cover his left/right. If Dobbo was isolated, fair enough but he wasn't. I think it is an example of a lack of commuication being an issue. But it wasn't a glaring mistake like we have seen, it just shows an aspect of our game we are lacking in. 
  • First unikum of the year. We win agai, at first home game too. 
    You should have asked for a glass.  Drinking out of a plastic is not satisfactory.

    Do you have sugar with your coffee btw?
    I know, but inside the stadium you cannot drink from glass. That is why the unikum looks like a coffee. I usually drink black coffee, without anything, sometimes with rum.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    Bumping this to appreciate Dobson’s assist for the winner last night as well as Bakinson’s control and finish.

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,999
    Saw someone say they thought Dobson's pass was just a hopeful hit but no way is that what happened. He looks up and sees the run to pick out Bakinson. His passing has improved so much in the last 12 months
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    fenaddick said:
    Saw someone say they thought Dobson's pass was just a hopeful hit but no way is that what happened. He looks up and sees the run to pick out Bakinson. His passing has improved so much in the last 12 months
    Inch perfect :)
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    Surely he’s not really going to join this Hungarian team, is he?!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,999
    se9addick said:
    Surely he’s not really going to join this Hungarian team, is he?!
    Unless we buy him back, yeah he is
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    fenaddick said:
    Saw someone say they thought Dobson's pass was just a hopeful hit but no way is that what happened. He looks up and sees the run to pick out Bakinson. His passing has improved so much in the last 12 months
    For some it’ll always be a classy long pass if it comes from someone like Coventry, but a hopeful hoof from a clogger like Dobson
  • se9addick said:
    Surely he’s not really going to join this Hungarian team, is he?!
    Yes.  Daft thing is I get the feeling he wants to stay, we should want him to stay (and Jones probably does), but it's all too little too late as Scott tried to push him out and the pre-contract is signed.
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    edited March 2024
    fenaddick said:
    Saw someone say they thought Dobson's pass was just a hopeful hit but no way is that what happened. He looks up and sees the run to pick out Bakinson. His passing has improved so much in the last 12 months


    Anyone who said that, doesn't understand football.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,958
    edited March 2024
    Addick_8 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Saw someone say they thought Dobson's pass was just a hopeful hit but no way is that what happened. He looks up and sees the run to pick out Bakinson. His passing has improved so much in the last 12 months


    Anyone who said that, doesn't understand football.
    Seemingly 90% of our fans on here, although most don't go.
  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725
    edited March 2024
    Addick_8 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Saw someone say they thought Dobson's pass was just a hopeful hit but no way is that what happened. He looks up and sees the run to pick out Bakinson. His passing has improved so much in the last 12 months


    Anyone who said that, doesn't understand football.
    There are a puzzling number of people who seem blind to Dobson's skills. They think that all he can do is tackle to break up play. But no one else in the team is as good as he is at receiving the ball, shielding it, spinning and playing a snap pass. He has excellent vision and, just as much as the now-lauded Coventry, an awareness of a killer pass and the technique to execute it such as that to Bakinson last night.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    I thought he wasn’t very good in the first half but much better in the second.

    Would I swap him long term for Coventry? No.

    Do I think he could play a role in next seasons squad if he stayed? Absolutely.

    As I’ve said before the utter shite we have been watching for some time has perhaps slightly over valued a decent league one midfielder (simply because he’s been alongside so much dross).