Most draws in one season

The record we look set to break is ‘lowest league position since the 1920s’

We haven’t finished this low in the third tier of English football (16th) since before the war!

Says it all really.

We’ve never finished this low or taken this long to get promoted out of the third tier (having been relegated in to it ) 
our first football league relegation was in 1933 

We won 12 on the spin in 1999/2000. That is a better record than drawing 8 out 13 or whatever the "unbeaten" run currently is. 

When a Nathan Jones' side can string 3 or 4 wins together please let me know. 

seth plum said:

If we had lost 10 of those draws, but won the other 9 we’d have 60 points now.

If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bicycle

We have gone from being easy to beat to being hard to beat. I see that as a big positive and indeed a stepping stone.

Todds_right_hook said:

Seth and golfie, behave!!!!

when Appleton was sacked, we were deep in relegation trouble. I can’t remember golfies exact words but they were along the lines of us being 6 points from safety after the derby game 

jones has come on and lost one game. Thats a very good start, stop the defeats and the wins will eventually come. He has got players battling and although we are still giving away soft goals, he has us competing.

once we won a few games and pulled away from the relegation zone, this season was then a write off. Yesterdays team was experimental to a a certain extent.

every Charlton supporter I have spoken to are all of the same opinion. With jones in charge, next season could be a good one.

Exactly this. I think some people are forgetting where we were. Jones came in with the team in disarray and hadn't won for months. 12 league games without a win, and our only win since October was at home to Cheltenham. We were absolutely heading for league 2.

In a very short space of time he stopped the rot and steered us through 3 unbeaten games in a week against the top 3 where most of us feared the worst. We've beaten Derby (2nd) and Barnsley (5th) and since the Reading defeat in his first match, only us and leaders Portsmouth are unbeaten.

We all know the defence is poor, we need better signings and we need to keep more clean sheets, and if we do that we will naturally win more games. Of course we'd rather some of these draws were wins, but this run is a solid base to build on for next season.

seth plum said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Seth and golfie, behave!!!!

when Appleton was sacked, we were deep in relegation trouble. I can’t remember golfies exact words but they were along the lines of us being 6 points from safety after the derby game 

jones has come on and lost one game. Thats a very good start, stop the defeats and the wins will eventually come. He has got players battling and although we are still giving away soft goals, he has us competing.

once we won a few games and pulled away from the relegation zone, this season was then a write off. Yesterdays team was experimental to a a certain extent.

every Charlton supporter I have spoken to are all of the same opinion. With jones in charge, next season could be a good one.

My comment is about the general approach in the future.
For example are we going to be more attacking rather than keep what we have, I have pointed out the risk can be worth the reward.

Of course we will, Jones isn't an idiot and he knows what is required but he's simply having to work with what he's got. When your defence is a calamity, you can't be too attacking as it'll leave them exposed and we will concede even more. His formation also requires good quality wing backs and we do not have a decent RWB so that doesn't help us either.

Once we make better defensive signings, there will be more confidence in them, we will have 2 good wing backs pushing on and we can naturally play a more attacking game. 

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Seth and golfie, behave!!!!

when Appleton was sacked, we were deep in relegation trouble. I can’t remember golfies exact words but they were along the lines of us being 6 points from safety after the derby game 

jones has come on and lost one game. Thats a very good start, stop the defeats and the wins will eventually come. He has got players battling and although we are still giving away soft goals, he has us competing.

once we won a few games and pulled away from the relegation zone, this season was then a write off. Yesterdays team was experimental to a a certain extent.

every Charlton supporter I have spoken to are all of the same opinion. With jones in charge, next season could be a good one.

Exactly this. I think some people are forgetting where we were. Jones came in with the team in disarray and hadn't won for months. 12 league games without a win, and our only win since October was at home to Cheltenham. We were absolutely heading for league 2.

In a very short space of time he stopped the rot and steered us through 3 unbeaten games in a week against the top 3 where most of us feared the worst. We've beaten Derby (2nd) and Barnsley (5th) and since the Reading defeat in his first match, only us and leaders Portsmouth are unbeaten.

We all know the defence is poor, we need better signings and we need to keep more clean sheets, and if we do that we will naturally win more games. Of course we'd rather some of these draws were wins, but this run is a solid base to build on for next season.

What can be forgotten is that if you are not losing, one goal more scored or one goal less conceded will win you the game. We are not as far off as some may think IMO. I think the easiest part of the solution is the keeper and we need to identify one as good as we can get who marshals the defence and instills confidence in them. Of course then we have to solve other bits, in terms of defenders I don't think we need to replace them all. I want more goals from the midfield too. But the easiest by far is the keeper.

golfaddick said:

seth plum said:

If we had lost 10 of those draws, but won the other 9 we’d have 60 points now.

This.

1 win & 1 defeat = 3 points
2 draws = 2 points.

2 defeats = 0 points
2 draws = 2 points

It works both ways. 

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

shirty5 said:

Charlton Athletic will now finish on their lowest points total in the 10 seasons since 2009/2010 that they have spent in League One 

2023/2024: 52 (After 44 games)

2010/2011: 59

2021/2022: 59

2016/2017: 60

2022/2023: 62

It’s far worse than that. This is the worst Charlton team for 100 years.

23/24 will be our lowest finish (if we finish below 13th) since 1925.

An abysmal first year for Scott, Methven, Elliott & Rodwell when you consider how weak league one is this year.

Serious investment required in the summer.

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

shirty5 said:

Charlton Athletic will now finish on their lowest points total in the 10 seasons since 2009/2010 that they have spent in League One 

2023/2024: 52 (After 44 games)

2010/2011: 59

2021/2022: 59

2016/2017: 60

2022/2023: 62

It’s far worse than that. This is the worst Charlton team for 100 years.

23/24 will be our lowest finish (if we finish below 13th) since 1925.

An abysmal first year for Scott, Methven, Elliott & Rodwell when you consider how weak league one is this year.

Serious investment required in the summer.

I really hope the players will be doing a "lap of appreciation" after the match on Saturday so that they can get the recognition they deserve for such a momentous season.

I've said for years that too many draws are a negative. Only the bottom four have won less games than we have and we have only taken three points, on average, once in every four games. Draws, at the time, lead to thoughts of "well at least we didn't lose" or "that was a good point" but, taking all those 19 draws as a whole, they are a negative. 

RaplhMilne said:

Exciting isn’t it……. No hold on actually it’s bloody dull. The worse case being we are even doing it the shit way most of the time, by going in front and conceding the equaliser for the draw, rather than coming from behind. 

Coming from behind is always my preference.