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50 years of James Bond
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It’s not great . The special effects make it lookStuart_the_Red said:
Sorry, but the worst Bond film has to be Moonraker.Hal1x said:
You are just compounding your folly!, Bexley's own Roger made some poor Bonds (he was too old in the end), but also made one of the best in "The Spy who Loved me". He was unlucky in that Lew Grade wouldn't release him from the Saint to make Bonds when he was in his prime.Stuart_the_Red said:
Can we at least all agree that Roger Moore was the worst Bond?Hal1x said:
Timothy Dalton !!! you have got to be joking!Stuart_the_Red said:
On the JB Facebook pages that’s fighting talk, that is!MuttleyCAFC said:I like all the bond films but I think Craig was the best Bond. It took me a while to come to this conclusion but I think his films were pitched just right. I think on reflection that Casino Royale and Sceptre were Bond masterpieces. I appreciate many will disagree.
I agree with you about Casino Royale, although I prefer Skyfall over Spectre.But, as with all things Bond, it’s very subjective. For example, one of my favourite Bond films is On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, although George Lazenby is not in my top 3 favourite Bonds.
I also agree with you that Daniel Craig was the best Bond, followed by Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton.
Lazenby - worst
Dalton - sour faced, wooden lump who thought he was far too good to be Bond.
Brosnan - ok but made the biggest bond stinker in "Die Another Day" pheewey!
like a Thunderbirds episode . In fact I think Gerry Anderson was involved in it unless I dreamt that ?0 -
Connery then Craig a close 2nd.0
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I must be the only person who doesn’t particularly like Connery as Bond . I find him really creepy when he gets involved with the Bond Girls especially that later films he starred in . The shag pile carpet he has on his chest doesn’t help ! The stories are pretty good though but his films haven’t aged at all well .soapy_jones said:Connery then Craig a close 2nd.
The worst films for ridiculous storylines ( invisible cars !) are the Piers Brosnan ones but I actually like him as Bond .3 -
Goldeneye is arguably the only good Brosnan Bond film, although I like the concept of Bond being captured (for a year!) at the start of Die Another Day.Bedsaddick said:
The worst films for ridiculous storylines ( invisible cars !) are the Piers Brosnan ones but I actually like him as Bond .soapy_jones said:Connery then Craig a close 2nd.1 -
Its not great but much better than Die Another Day (the appalling CGI, the face implanted with diamonds, ski-ing down the glacier., the invisible cars, the plane that still flies when its virtually in pieces, Madonna! etc) Moonrakers crap-ness is a reflection on the producers trying to jump on Star Wars popularity on the cheap.Stuart_the_Red said:
Sorry, but the worst Bond film has to be Moonraker.Hal1x said:
You are just compounding your folly!, Bexley's own Roger made some poor Bonds (he was too old in the end), but also made one of the best in "The Spy who Loved me". He was unlucky in that Lew Grade wouldn't release him from the Saint to make Bonds when he was in his prime.Stuart_the_Red said:
Can we at least all agree that Roger Moore was the worst Bond?Hal1x said:
Timothy Dalton !!! you have got to be joking!Stuart_the_Red said:
On the JB Facebook pages that’s fighting talk, that is!MuttleyCAFC said:I like all the bond films but I think Craig was the best Bond. It took me a while to come to this conclusion but I think his films were pitched just right. I think on reflection that Casino Royale and Sceptre were Bond masterpieces. I appreciate many will disagree.
I agree with you about Casino Royale, although I prefer Skyfall over Spectre.But, as with all things Bond, it’s very subjective. For example, one of my favourite Bond films is On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, although George Lazenby is not in my top 3 favourite Bonds.
I also agree with you that Daniel Craig was the best Bond, followed by Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton.
Lazenby - worst
Dalton - sour faced, wooden lump who thought he was far too good to be Bond.
Brosnan - ok but made the biggest bond stinker in "Die Another Day" pheewey!
I think the fact that they show Moonraker on telly still, but I cant recall DAD being on recently is an indication of popularity.0 -
I agree but he was only acting out the times. I does not translate comfortably into the modern era. However the films are more of a museum piece of the 60'sBedsaddick said:
I must be the only person who doesn’t particularly like Connery as Bond . I find him really creepy when he gets involved with the Bond Girls especially that later films he starred in . The shag pile carpet he has on his chest doesn’t help ! The stories are pretty good though but his films haven’t aged at all well .soapy_jones said:Connery then Craig a close 2nd.
The worst films for ridiculous storylines ( invisible cars !) are the Piers Brosnan ones but I actually like him as Bond .1 -
If you managed to watch all of it, I take my hat off to you!Bedsaddick said:
True but let’s face it . The original Casino Royale is not a Bond film as we know it . It’s an extremely unfunny comedy. I watched it for the first time about four years ago and I hated every minute of it . It’s terribleAlwaysneil said:David Niven was the least authentic Bond.
I only lasted for 15 minutes or so before deciding I had some paint drying that needed watching!1 -
Don't forget the shag pile carpet on his head in the later ones.Bedsaddick said:
I must be the only person who doesn’t particularly like Connery as Bond . I find him really creepy when he gets involved with the Bond Girls especially that later films he starred in . The shag pile carpet he has on his chest doesn’t help ! The stories are pretty good though but his films haven’t aged at all well .soapy_jones said:Connery then Craig a close 2nd.
The worst films for ridiculous storylines ( invisible cars !) are the Piers Brosnan ones but I actually like him as Bond .3 -
What about Woody Allen then?Alwaysneil said:David Niven was the least authentic Bond.0 -
I really like Dalton as Bond. He looked like he might actually be a cold hearted killer so it was a shame he only got two outings. He and Craig gave the character some depth.
Brosnan was criminally underserved. One great film followed by progressively shitter movies that get so bad the last one nearly killed the franchise. I agree that it's worse than Moonraker, which is clearly very silly but most (not all) of the Moore films are a bit like that. Like when they managed one of the greatest car stunts of all time and the editor whacked a slide whistle on it. Or a pigeon doing a double take (which might have been Moonraker anyway, I can't remember).
Surprised nobody has mentioned Bob Holness! He should have had a pay-off line after shooting someone in the bathroom - "You can have a pee now, Bob"4 - Sponsored links:
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It was something of a miracle that the film was finished, although so much money had been spent they had to have something to show for it. Much of the problem was Peter Sellars going into complete spoilt baby mode, I think they went through about five directors in the end.Stuart_the_Red said:
If you managed to watch all of it, I take my hat off to you!Bedsaddick said:
True but let’s face it . The original Casino Royale is not a Bond film as we know it . It’s an extremely unfunny comedy. I watched it for the first time about four years ago and I hated every minute of it . It’s terribleAlwaysneil said:David Niven was the least authentic Bond.
I only lasted for 15 minutes or so before deciding I had some paint drying that needed watching!
Agreed, it’s pretty unwatchable!1 -
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No, definitely notStuart_the_Red said:
Can we at least all agree that Roger Moore was the worst Bond?Hal1x said:
Timothy Dalton !!! you have got to be joking!Stuart_the_Red said:
On the JB Facebook pages that’s fighting talk, that is!MuttleyCAFC said:I like all the bond films but I think Craig was the best Bond. It took me a while to come to this conclusion but I think his films were pitched just right. I think on reflection that Casino Royale and Sceptre were Bond masterpieces. I appreciate many will disagree.
I agree with you about Casino Royale, although I prefer Skyfall over Spectre.But, as with all things Bond, it’s very subjective. For example, one of my favourite Bond films is On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, although George Lazenby is not in my top 3 favourite Bonds.
I also agree with you that Daniel Craig was the best Bond, followed by Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton.
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Even taking into account values of today vs when the novels were actually written, the original book version of Bond is frankly rather unpleasant and unlikeable as a character. In many ways Connery's take is arguably the closest to the text in that sense and has also aged quite badly for the same reason.
Craig's version is definitely not as "book accurate" but between the performance and the writing stands out to me as the best character inasmuch as he is still a killer and a brute but retains a bit more humanity as a person.1 -
Most of the books IMHO are quite awful, its no wonder many of the films just use the title and the character names, and ignore the rest of the story. I have recently re-read Thunderball whilst on holiday and it's terrible. Bond himself is totally unlikeable. Fleming himself said "I cant say I much like the chap".thenewbie said:Even taking into account values of today vs when the novels were actually written, the original book version of Bond is frankly rather unpleasant and unlikeable as a character. In many ways Connery's take is arguably the closest to the text in that sense and has also aged quite badly for the same reason.
Craig's version is definitely not as "book accurate" but between the performance and the writing stands out to me as the best character inasmuch as he is still a killer and a brute but retains a bit more humanity as a person.2 -
I thought the one with the Indiana Jones team up was the best Connery Bond film.
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Funny thing is Connery was only 12 years older than Ford.0
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Watched The Living Daylights last night and I’d forgotten just how shitty the Bond brand had become. Not Daltons fault in my opinion. He's a proper actor who could have easily pulled off the later hardened and Jason Bourne provoked Daniel Craig films. Any news on a new Bond ? Names emerge every so often but then it all goes quiet.1
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Didn’t Cubby Broccoli say Dalton was best portrayal of Bond ?This was pre Craig though0
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Nothing has come out for a while. The producers need to start with an idea, or find someone to hatch a plan. That will drive the casting. Presumably they will go for a multi-film arc again which means there's a good chance they will go young. Failing that, they could decide that they need to go back to standalone movies for a while. Maybe they'd get different big name directors to do different styles - someone else here suggested they might set one in the 60s, or allow Nolan to do a modern take, get Tarantino to do one or whatever. That might even mean different actors as Bond. That could take up a decade or so and then they go back to what they did with Craig.ShootersHillGuru said:Watched The Living Daylights last night and I’d forgotten just how shitty the Bond brand had become. Not Daltons fault in my opinion. He's a proper actor who could have easily pulled off the later hardened and Jason Bourne provoked Daniel Craig films. Any news on a new Bond ? Names emerge every so often but then it all goes quiet.
I've probably said this before but giving Craig a multi-film arc has painted them into a corner. All the previous Bonds started and ended in the same place so it was easy to replace them. Now it has to be a proper reboot. They almost certainly can't keep the same supporting cast or MI6 sets and so on. So they really need someone to drive a new series that won't confuse the audience (there are people in these threads that don't believe Craig's Bond died lol).0 -
Moonracker is on itv now0
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Big Bond fan and in a triple whammy of Bond fun this year 1) I drank in Raffles’ hotel ‘Secret Bar’ - door number - 007 - inbuilt into the bar wall - THE original Aston Martin - the whole car, not a half or replica. This was the OWO where Fleming allegedly penned two novels. 2) I meet my favourite Bond in person this week, can say no more, but life shines brighter than you imagine sometimes and I will have butterflies when I get to have a chat and 3) the annual Christmas shindig I put on this year in the music industry is Bond themed, a big icon getting the main award and more surprises than one of Q’s watches.2
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Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was the greatest Bond movie1
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Completely irrelevant comment here but I once visited a Christmas market in the small German town of Rothenburg ob der Tauber where the child catcher and village scenes were filmed. Wonderfully atmospheric place and charming Christmas market. Not too far from Nuremberg.Chizz said:Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was the greatest Bond movie1 -
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Could prove an absolute disaster. George Lucas had proven with the SW prequels that he had taken his vision as far as it had gone and arguably Revenge of the Sith saved what had become a very mixed opinion of his capabilities.carly burn said:Broccoli and Wilson had all the experience and knowhow you could wish for in continuing to produce some excellent Bond movies. Skyfall and No Time To Die were fantastic and with the times, it’s only the Brosnan entries which wobbled in part as they started to get some ‘unspecial’ effects and ridiculous sequences in the way of some quite good story telling.I hope Amazon do not fcuk this up!0 -
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However good it is, I am sure there will be lots of people who have already decided it's going to be awful and all the fault of Amazon3
