Charlton Summer Transfer Rumours 2024

cafcsinger said:

Yann897 said:

https://x.com/gabsutton/status/1818179727657689368?s=46&t=h5Lx2bbeSHc7F8-dpZyDbA

An interesting read, Journalist predicting 4th for us.

Decent preview but the paragraph....

'A high-pedigree group remains in commanding centre-back Lloyd Jones, intelligent left-sided defender Macauley Gillesphey, tenacious wing-back Tennai Watson, and Carrick-caricature Conor Coventry'. Feels like he's just picked a random few names out the bag, none of the those had a particularly good season last year at all. 

He’s just never seen any of them play 

ShootersHillGuru said:

Yann897 said:

wmcf123 said:

Yann897 said:

wmcf123 said:

Yann897 said:

Bedsaddick said:

Wrexham will definitely be there or there abouts and anyone who says different doesn't understand how deep their pockets are and the momentum they have. 

I can’t see it if o’Connell, Dobson and Lee are starting for them.

Do you really think that Dobson deserves the same tarring at those two jokers ?  Dobbo really has become Semedo already.  

If he is Semedo hopefully history repeats itself as no one wanted him to leave but we went on to win the league the next season but yes he’s better than the other two but I just don’t think he’s that great , great tackler but that’s about it and I think we’ll see that this season with a more mobile midfield.

I think you’re going to be disappointed 

We’re Charlton fans what’s new but I’m happy with Jones and the new signings yeah we need a couple more but if you can’t be optimistic before the seasons started then what’s the point.

I’ve said it all along. I don’t expect one transfer window to solve our problems. It should solve some enough to improve on last seasons dismal performances but enough to achieve what we want in promotion ? I’m not convinced. I’m hoping to be challenging for top six but not expecting it. All things being equal with manager and ownership then season 25/26 is the acid test for me. I still think the club from top to bottom and not just the first eleven is still in transition.

The issue is, this isn't their first transfer window!    Some may argue it's only their 2nd.   The January 2024 one was a farce - we tried to get rid of Dobson early, who the manager refused to sanction and even tried to keep after he'd left.

They also were in charge for Summer 2023 (they approved all of TS' transfer activity)

They even ran the January 2023 window for TS, who either employed them or brought them in as consultants.

Simply put - I think NJ is better than the rest of our SMT, but I don't believe our problems will be fully solved until Andy Scott isn't head of recruitment and CM isn't our CEO/Chairman/whatever you want to call him

MarcusH26 said:

I don't see Wrexham as a threat yet at all. Signings are fine for this level but nothing wow. Still got a lot of work to do to be competitive. Just because they've been able to outspend and pay big wages in L2 and Non League doesn't mean that's going to be replicable in this league. 

Stockport I see as a bigger threat of the newly promoted sides - recruited very well and have an excellent manager in Challinor. They could easily be around the playoffs. Likes of Bolton,Rotherham and Huddersfield are a given to be big threats for automatics.

If we can get 3-4 more quality signings (I'd count begovic and Potts in that ) then I'd be confident we could be around that conversation. 

Wrexham will be splashing the cash...

Nicholas said:

Garrymanilow said:

Cannot believe how badly people have reacted to losing a friendly match. I mean, I can, but I'm disappointed. It's a very fickle mindset; there was real positivity on here when we signed Docherty and it was all about getting those final pieces in. One poor performance in preseason and people are crying about our terrible squad, yelling about bad ownerships and trying to see how much of Wrexham they can fit in their mouths. Must be exhausting being this easily broken

I guess its because we have seen the same shit gutless performences year on year for a very long time now. Maybe for once it's best not to wait till the transfer window shut, not to wait till Christmas, not to wait till the Jan window opens. If we can see and point out the cracks now maybe just maybe something can be done about it before the season starts. Like others have said no one cares what the result was against Wimbledon, its all to do with that horrible performance we have got used to watching for far too long.

Not going to lie I am not overly convinced with Jones, Selling May has got my back up, has a feel of some of these so called top managers coming in and getting rid of the teams best player as they want to be top dog. His replacements so far have been a crock and Godden who looks a lesser version of May. I also think we are yet again throwing all our eggs in one basket with this poxy wing 3-5-2/5-3-2 formation, I dont think its a formation where we create a lot and dont think it will suit should Small get injured. Also not a fan of signing loads from Luton because they once did well for him in the past. We did that with Swindons team not long ago.

I know I sound boring as I hope none of what I just said comes true and they all shove it back in my face. Just feels like we have been watching Charlton on repeat for god knows how long now. I hope Jone's super fit players who play on the front foot come out all guns blazing and we can actually have a season where we dont actually want it to end in November.

I really don't disagree with a lot of that. I'm nervous too, I always am since Roland. I don't think we've done enough at centre back yet and given that Jones complained it was a personnel issue I'm seeing a lot of the same personnel there. I'm also not a huge fan of 352 and I've rarely seen a Charlton team play well in it. I think calling Ahadme a crock is a bit much but overall I remain neutral on the whole thing until I'm shown otherwise. What I'm talking about though isn't people being unhappy in general, it's the totally bipolar switch on here from the tone being positive about the signings so far, talking up the work the ownership has done with the pitches, the training ground, preseason for the men's and u21s teams and the potentially useful link in Jamaica that should get us Dixon to the sudden total 180 after a poor performance against Wimbledon in preseason. If people were just upset with the performance then sure, but it's the switch to suddenly fearing the entire season is lost to us because the players had a bad one, despite us doing well against Palace and beating a top flight Turkish team who beat Luton straight after. We're clearly inconsistent but there's too much desire to collapse into the bad and forget the good. In 2018/19 Nathan Jones' Luton didn't win until their 4th match and only won 3 of their first 10. They took a bit of time to get going and then Jones only lost 1 game after that, including a run of 10 wins in 11, 7 of those in a row. Are we going to give that kind of time or are we going to turn this quickly every time there's a setback? I get that we're all traumatised but we can't always give up so quickly or it'll become a self-fulfilling prophecy

Scoham said:

Codfishjunior said:

Didn't we beat Ipswich 6-1 who were in the league above in pre season then have an underwhelming season until Bowyer came in??

I forgot about that game. That team lacked physicality and a proper striker or two. We lost in the playoffs which we likely would have missed out had Robinson stayed on. It’s a good example, going off both the result and performance we probably looked capable of challenging for the top 2.

https://www.charltonafc.com/news/view/597cb2962c0d4/pre-season-report-charlton-6-ipswich-town-1

We had a decent squad that year, and looks a lot stronger than Ipswich had that season.. 

Scoham said:

Codfishjunior said:

Didn't we beat Ipswich 6-1 who were in the league above in pre season then have an underwhelming season until Bowyer came in??

I forgot about that game. That team lacked physicality and a proper striker or two. We lost in the playoffs which we likely would have missed out had Robinson stayed on. It’s a good example, going off both the result and performance we probably looked capable of challenging for the top 2.

https://www.charltonafc.com/news/view/597cb2962c0d4/pre-season-report-charlton-6-ipswich-town-1

We actually started that season well though, winning 5 of our first 6 games, so the good preseason vibes did carry through to the start of the season.

wmcf123 said:

cafcsinger said:

Yann897 said:

https://x.com/gabsutton/status/1818179727657689368?s=46&t=h5Lx2bbeSHc7F8-dpZyDbA

An interesting read, Journalist predicting 4th for us.

Decent preview but the paragraph....

'A high-pedigree group remains in commanding centre-back Lloyd Jones, intelligent left-sided defender Macauley Gillesphey, tenacious wing-back Tennai Watson, and Carrick-caricature Conor Coventry'. Feels like he's just picked a random few names out the bag, none of the those had a particularly good season last year at all. 

He’s just never seen any of them play 

He has - multiple times. He goes to an EFL game most weekends and midweeks. I know for a fact that he was at the Cheltenham (A) win last season and came away from it full of praise for Conor Coventry, for example.

I'm not sure that pre season friendlies give us any guide to the season ahead, the Millwall friendly last year at the Den gave a good indication of that. There was a euphoric feeling after that game, the kids were alright was certainly a phrased used, but it glossed over a paper thin squad, I will give Golfie a mention here because he was one of the first to point out that we were relying on kids to complete a squad, he and others were spot on. This pre season we have seen good and bad but if you were to base picking a team on the friendlies thus far, Zac Mitchell would probably start, Gassan Ahadme, would be benched. We need more creation, Thierry Small has been our most creative player but, as seems likely, he refuses a contract he could be gone, if not in this window then certainly the next, it is the reason that Josh Edwards was signed but he looks more like a full back rather than a wing back. We need that creator and an experienced keeper, then it's down to Nathan Jones to make it work, but he needs to get results quickly as the outlay, the board would argue, justifies results. 

JonT_Abs said:

Begović is giving me Ben Watson vibes / PTSD 

I am a little worried we're signing a few too many 'on the way down' players rather than ones on the way up.

Individually look like reasonable signings, but Godden, Berry, and potentially Begovic are all over 32 so we could be working on those positions again soon rather than building on the signings being made.

Docherty makes more sense given he's still experienced but should have a good few years left in him yet.

Hopefully I'm wrong and they provide that bit of experience needed sometimes!

Rothko said:

Begovic had a decent season in the Championship last year, he's a good signing if it happens 

QPR fans don't seem to agree with the idea he was good last season but I hope you're right

North Lower Neil said:

JonT_Abs said:

Begović is giving me Ben Watson vibes / PTSD 

I am a little worried we're signing a few too many 'on the way down' players rather than ones on the way up.

Individually look like reasonable signings, but Godden, Berry, and potentially Begovic are all over 32 so we could be working on those positions again soon rather than building on the signings being made.

Docherty makes more sense given he's still experienced but should have a good few years left in him yet.

Hopefully I'm wrong and they provide that bit of experience needed sometimes!

It all depends on the hunger of those players "on the way down", Arter was special case as believe he was actually injured but yeah some havent worked for us.

However people like Pratley did workout and when Yann signed for us he had flopped at Leicester and was the wrong side of thirty and it worked out.

Admittedly Yann was no Piotr Parzseyek though

Rothko said:

Chunes said:

Rothko said:

Begovic had a decent season in the Championship last year, he's a good signing if it happens 

QPR fans don't seem to agree with the idea he was good last season but I hope you're right

Some QPR fans on one messageboard

You can also search 'begovic #qpr' on twitter and you'll find a plethora of comments. They're overwhelmingly negative.

Like this thread when there was news about him potentially signing a new deal there: https://x.com/qpr_news82/status/1792442726455071029

Chunes said:

Rothko said:

Chunes said:

Rothko said:

Begovic had a decent season in the Championship last year, he's a good signing if it happens 

QPR fans don't seem to agree with the idea he was good last season but I hope you're right

Some QPR fans on one messageboard

You can also search 'begovic #qpr' on twitter and you'll find a plethora of comments. They're overwhelmingly negative.

Like this thread when there was news about him potentially signing a new deal there: https://x.com/qpr_news82/status/1792442726455071029

Not likely to be positive when, like us they had such a poor season