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  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    Sad day, now that Andy’s retired.

    When you compare his achievements with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic it doesn’t seem much. But in truth it’s a huge achievement, certainly in the history of British tennis.

    Will we ever see another British tennis player like him?
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,334
    https://x.com/andy_murray/status/1819115193148100944

    perfect tweet to end his career with
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
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  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    My favourite sports person. Loved following his career.

    They said he wasn’t fit enough, but he turned himself into one of the fittest players on the circuit. They said his back hand was weak but he turned it into a weapon. They said his second serve wasn’t good enough, but he worked until it was. They said he was too serious and sulky and he said “eff you, I’m a tennis player not a comedian”. They said he was a bottle job, but he became one of the fiercest competitors and toughest to beat out there. They said he was Scottish and hates the English but he won a Davis Cup and Olympic Gold for Great Britain. 

    All the while, he stuck to his principles, stood up for female equality, and got up the noses of all the right kinds people. 

    Triple Grand Slam Winner
    Olympic Champion 
    Former World Number One
    Davis Cup Winner
    British (and Scottish) Sporting Legend
    And All Round Good Egg

    Rest that hip, son, you’ve earnt it!
    Decent tribute tbf

    absolute legend of a tennis player and just a shame his career was at the same time as Federer, Djokovic and Nadal or he'd Have a stack more titles. 

    Rest up lad, I reckon you’ve earned it
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    or, and am purely playing devils advocate here, maybe the reason those three won so many  titles is that the Murray’s and Wawrinkas were not all that and we are looking at him through success starved British eyes, tried so hard to shoehorn him into part of a ‘big four’ when it was so obviously a big three and then some scraps 

    Alcarez has already exceeded their slam totals 
  • Arguably the greatest British sportsman of my lifetime. Have loved watching him play. Thanks Andy.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Swisdom said:
    My favourite sports person. Loved following his career.

    They said he wasn’t fit enough, but he turned himself into one of the fittest players on the circuit. They said his back hand was weak but he turned it into a weapon. They said his second serve wasn’t good enough, but he worked until it was. They said he was too serious and sulky and he said “eff you, I’m a tennis player not a comedian”. They said he was a bottle job, but he became one of the fiercest competitors and toughest to beat out there. They said he was Scottish and hates the English but he won a Davis Cup and Olympic Gold for Great Britain. 

    All the while, he stuck to his principles, stood up for female equality, and got up the noses of all the right kinds people. 

    Triple Grand Slam Winner
    Olympic Champion 
    Former World Number One
    Davis Cup Winner
    British (and Scottish) Sporting Legend
    And All Round Good Egg

    Rest that hip, son, you’ve earnt it!
    Decent tribute tbf

    absolute legend of a tennis player and just a shame his career was at the same time as Federer, Djokovic and Nadal or he'd Have a stack more titles. 

    Rest up lad, I reckon you’ve earned it
    He was the best the UK has delivered in my lifetime. I do remember when he first came onto the scene and stamina was an issue. It says a lot about the man that it became a strength. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    MrOneLung said:
    or, and am purely playing devils advocate here, maybe the reason those three won so many  titles is that the Murray’s and Wawrinkas were not all that and we are looking at him through success starved British eyes, tried so hard to shoehorn him into part of a ‘big four’ when it was so obviously a big three and then some scraps 

    Alcarez has already exceeded their slam totals 
    Yes, and he's done it when Federer has retired, and Nadal and Djokovic are well past their peak (still great mind you but lacking their prime power and fitness.) If anything it actually shows how dominant those three were I think.

    Murray can still be the greatest British tennis player ever without being as good as The Big Three. Not being as good as arguably three of the best EVER still leaves plenty of room to be excellent in his own right.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited August 2024
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  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,142
    All the best Andy. Sit back and enjoy your money you've won. Great ambassador hopefully for British tennis going forward. 
  • My favourite British sportsman - hope he enjoys his retirement.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    My favourite sports person. Loved following his career.

    They said he wasn’t fit enough, but he turned himself into one of the fittest players on the circuit. They said his back hand was weak but he turned it into a weapon. They said his second serve wasn’t good enough, but he worked until it was. They said he was too serious and sulky and he said “eff you, I’m a tennis player not a comedian”. They said he was a bottle job, but he became one of the fiercest competitors and toughest to beat out there. They said he was Scottish and hates the English but he won a Davis Cup and Olympic Gold for Great Britain. 

    All the while, he stuck to his principles, stood up for female equality, and got up the noses of all the right kinds people. 

    Triple Grand Slam Winner
    Olympic Champion 
    Former World Number One
    Davis Cup Winner
    British (and Scottish) Sporting Legend
    And All Round Good Egg

    Rest that hip, son, you’ve earnt it!
    And also a real leader for British tennis. For example inviting Dan Evans to join him at his Miami training camp to show him how to train properly. Or the Battle of the Brits events organised by The Murrays during the Covid lockdowns.

    And not escaping to Monaco as a tax exile.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    thenewbie said:
    MrOneLung said:
    or, and am purely playing devils advocate here, maybe the reason those three won so many  titles is that the Murray’s and Wawrinkas were not all that and we are looking at him through success starved British eyes, tried so hard to shoehorn him into part of a ‘big four’ when it was so obviously a big three and then some scraps 

    Alcarez has already exceeded their slam totals 
    Yes, and he's done it when Federer has retired, and Nadal and Djokovic are well past their peak (still great mind you but lacking their prime power and fitness.) If anything it actually shows how dominant those three were I think.

    Murray can still be the greatest British tennis player ever without being as good as The Big Three. Not being as good as arguably three of the best EVER still leaves plenty of room to be excellent in his own right.
    Don't get me wrong - for me, he is one of the Top 10 best British sportsmen of the last 20 years
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Unlucky he played in the era he did. Still has an excellent CV, loved watching him play. I find Tennis a little boring now without having him at the top level if i'm honest.
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    Loved watching him play, especially when he lost
  • Good tennis player but what a dour, miserable glum person he was. 
  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,637
    Saw him down at The Valley once watching a Prem game
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Good tennis player but what a dour, miserable glum person he was. 

    Tennis was his work and he was a dour Scot on court but was different as he proved on a couple of occasions when he was in the audience for mock the week and he was mocked and praised in equal measure.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Good tennis player but what a dour, miserable glum person he was. 
    He’s retired, not died
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  • MrOneLung said:
    or, and am purely playing devils advocate here, maybe the reason those three won so many  titles is that the Murray’s and Wawrinkas were not all that and we are looking at him through success starved British eyes, tried so hard to shoehorn him into part of a ‘big four’ when it was so obviously a big three and then some scraps 

    Alcarez has already exceeded their slam totals 
    Murray was part of the big four, that was because time and time again, at the semi final stage of the slams, it was the same four. However, the titles, make it hard to argue he was on a par with the top 3, he was just behind, in one of the most incredible eras of tennis, where the best pushed each other to extraordinary heights.

    But looking at titles alone, and using that to put Murray on a par with Wawrinka is clearly unfair and then comparing to Alcaraz, with a much lower level of competition.

    Wawrinka made 4 finals, Murray 11, and Murray has two olympic titles also, as well as 46 tour singles titles, compared to Wawrinka's 12.

    There is no doubt Murray made the most of the talent he was given, he didn't have the grace of Federer, the guile of Djokovic or the raw power of Nadal, but what he had he used effectively, he improved his game in every area he could, and where he could improve no more, he used his determination to keep him in matches.
  • Good tennis player but what a dour, miserable glum person he was. 
    This is true of how he speaks, but couldn't be further from the truth of his actual personality!
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    To be the in the top 4 in the world for 10 years is in itself outstanding. His ranking and titles record make him a real legend. Probably the greatest British sportsman of my lifetime. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    Winning a grand Slam event in Tennis is a bit like Winning a Major in Golf. 
    So for me Faldo has to be above Murray 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    I love him, any other generation of male tennis he is the daddy but kept pace with 3 of the best players of all time. Never quit and crucially, gave the country an actual shout of seeing a British winner of Wimbledon in our lifetimes. In with a shout of greatest living sportsman 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Winning a grand Slam event in Tennis is a bit like Winning a Major in Golf. 
    So for me Faldo has to be above Murray 
    I dunno I reckon Murray is probably better at tennis tbh 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    Carter said:
    I love him, any other generation of male tennis he is the daddy but kept pace with 3 of the best players of all time. Never quit and crucially, gave the country an actual shout of seeing a British winner of Wimbledon in our lifetimes. In with a shout of greatest living sportsman 
    Greatest living British sportsman I should have said 

    And good for him for being honest enough to not pretend to be English when it suits him. The ABE stuff I thought was good humoured, showed up sensationalist journalists for the thickos they are and so what? I'm English and British, hes Scottish and British more power to him
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Good tennis player but what a dour, miserable glum person he was. 
    Yeah that's the story that gets trotted out. Loving father, campaigner for equality in the sport, great sense of humour, but no. "A dour Scot". Well done.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Good tennis player but what a dour, miserable glum person he was. 
    Yeah that's the story that gets trotted out. Loving father, campaigner for equality in the sport, great sense of humour, but no. "A dour Scot". Well done.
    If only he’d had a solid 10 minute pre-match stand-up set, like Federer, Djokovic, and Nadal, that he could warm the crowd up with and he’d have surely won more majors.