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3pm kick off and we would probably have smashed that 1000 number. 5.30 kick off on a Saturday for the first game of the season changed the dynamics for planning the day outpaulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 10001 -
Our away support has improved dramatically from pathetic numbers to ok ish numbers and much more so considering the home crowds have dwindled
but we’ve not got a big away support like some other similar sized clubs but Then we use the excuse of one club town .
how many did Bolton bring for an early ish season live game at ours last season
oh yeah London’s more attractive , London supporter base etc etc3 -
I can't slate our away numbers all things considered. We have been bad at football for almost two decades, I am genuinely amazed when I see younger fans at the most tinpot grounds, fair play to them.
Be interesting to see if our away followings ever improve if we actually become good at football again. Is there a higher interest in attending away games due to social media and the sort of bragging rights that come with it? I'd say so.
700-800ish is decent ladies and gents. I won't be there but safe travels to all, last Wigan away was a cracking atmosphere0 -
Aware of all of this and as I say not criticising. Just hoped we might top 1000!SporadicAddick said:
so many factors...paulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 1000
Live on TV, late kick off, holiday season, threat of cancellation, been there before (soulless ground with crap atmosphere).
Bar the hardened traveller, any one of these is a reasonable justification for not going.
More travelling now than we often took to old Division 1 games in the eighties...1 -
The only people who can, if they wish, criticise our level of away support are the ones who regularly attend away matches.
People who don't go should keep their opinions to themselves.10 -
I really wanted to go, but the KO change and later return made me be 50/50, the fact that even with a family railcard it’s over £100 on rail fares for me and my son, when we can watch it live on Sky just made it a no brainer.paulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 1000Sure many others felt similar8 -
Yep.AFKABartram said:
I really wanted to go, but the KO change and later return made me be 50/50, the fact that even with a family railcard it’s over £100 on rail fares for me and my son, when we can watch it live on Sky just made it a no brainer.paulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 1000Sure many others felt similar
Same here.0 -
I don't play or manage Charlton, am I allowed to criticise them or voice an opinion on thatsouthamptonaddick said:The only people who can, if they wish, criticise our level of away support are the ones who regularly attend away matches.
People who don't go should keep their opinions to themselves.
or can I big up the away numbers but not say they were or are shit0 -
I am really looking forward to this one and will listen to some footie podcasts on the way up - @LouisMend will CharltonLive return this week ahead of Saturday? Way back down will either be a bouyant mood with TalkSport and music interspersed with lots of positive chatter around the season ahead, or it will be sombre and a long drive back with an angsty teenager. Either way, spending time with my 17 year son who was born into this lifelong suffering but shared passion for CAFC will make whatever it turns out to be worth every second with bells on. I have become a bit immune but cannot relate to the days when a defeat no matter who to would ruin the rest of your weekend…3
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Yes mate we’re back this eveningPavoren007 said:I am really looking forward to this one and will listen to some footie podcasts on the way up - @LouisMend will CharltonLive return this week ahead of Saturday? Way back down will either be a bouyant mood with TalkSport and music interspersed with lots of positive chatter around the season ahead, or it will be sombre and a long drive back with an angsty teenager. Either way, spending time with my 17 year son who was born into this lifelong suffering but shared passion for CAFC will make whatever it turns out to be worth every second with bells on. I have become a bit immune but cannot relate to the days when a defeat no matter who to would ruin the rest of your weekend…3 -
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100% boss.AFKABartram said:
I really wanted to go, but the KO change and later return made me be 50/50, the fact that even with a family railcard it’s over £100 on rail fares for me and my son, when we can watch it live on Sky just made it a no brainer.paulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 1000Sure many others felt similar
Wanted to tick Wigan off as a new ground but KO made it a no go. Realistically there was one train back and that quickly became unaffordable once the advance ticket sold out. Earliest we could have got back to main station London is 11ish without any delays. Imagine most of us still have an hour plus connection from Euston/Kings Cross to our houses.
Whats the point of going Wigan for a 5:30PM when I can just go to Reading in a couple weeks time and not have any travel stress.
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Financial restraints can dictate whether people attend away games.We have around 400 who will go to almost every game, loads of respect to these guys for their commitment.5
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Agreed the KO time is shite, as is orient at home next week. No shits given for attending supporters0
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As far as I'm concerned you can say what you like on the club or management, that's your opinion.oohaahmortimer said:
I don't play or manage Charlton, am I allowed to criticise them or voice an opinion on thatsouthamptonaddick said:The only people who can, if they wish, criticise our level of away support are the ones who regularly attend away matches.
People who don't go should keep their opinions to themselves.
or can I big up the away numbers but not say they were or are shit
I don't know if you attend many away games but to keep moaning about our away support at every opportunity gets a bit tiresome.7 -
Why does it have to be one or the other?!SouthWest_Addicks said:
100% boss.AFKABartram said:
I really wanted to go, but the KO change and later return made me be 50/50, the fact that even with a family railcard it’s over £100 on rail fares for me and my son, when we can watch it live on Sky just made it a no brainer.paulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 1000Sure many others felt similar
Wanted to tick Wigan off as a new ground but KO made it a no go. Realistically there was one train back and that quickly became unaffordable once the advance ticket sold out. Earliest we could have got back to main station London is 11ish without any delays. Imagine most of us still have an hour plus connection from Euston/Kings Cross to our houses.
Whats the point of going Wigan for a 5:30PM when I can just go to Reading in a couple weeks time and not have any travel stress.0 -
I hardly ever make comment on our away numbers only if there is an ongoing discussion , I just offer my experienced well thought of opinion on the numbers , nothing more nothing less and I’ve even mentioned it’s improved against the odds with the shit football and the understandable dwindling home numberssouthamptonaddick said:
As far as I'm concerned you can say what you like on the club or management, that's your opinion.oohaahmortimer said:
I don't play or manage Charlton, am I allowed to criticise them or voice an opinion on thatsouthamptonaddick said:The only people who can, if they wish, criticise our level of away support are the ones who regularly attend away matches.
People who don't go should keep their opinions to themselves.
or can I big up the away numbers but not say they were or are shit
I don't know if you attend many away games but to keep moaning about our away support at every opportunity gets a bit tiresome.
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Childcare & financial reasons.JaShea99 said:
Why does it have to be one or the other?!SouthWest_Addicks said:
100% boss.AFKABartram said:
I really wanted to go, but the KO change and later return made me be 50/50, the fact that even with a family railcard it’s over £100 on rail fares for me and my son, when we can watch it live on Sky just made it a no brainer.paulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 1000Sure many others felt similar
Wanted to tick Wigan off as a new ground but KO made it a no go. Realistically there was one train back and that quickly became unaffordable once the advance ticket sold out. Earliest we could have got back to main station London is 11ish without any delays. Imagine most of us still have an hour plus connection from Euston/Kings Cross to our houses.
Whats the point of going Wigan for a 5:30PM when I can just go to Reading in a couple weeks time and not have any travel stress.2 -
Tbf mate I mentioned the numbers topic in this instance and I don’t actually subscribe to the idea that you can only comment or criticise something if you go to the games. I don’t go to Fleetwood or Millwalls away games but I still reserve the right to slag off their away support!southamptonaddick said:
As far as I'm concerned you can say what you like on the club or management, that's your opinion.oohaahmortimer said:
I don't play or manage Charlton, am I allowed to criticise them or voice an opinion on thatsouthamptonaddick said:The only people who can, if they wish, criticise our level of away support are the ones who regularly attend away matches.
People who don't go should keep their opinions to themselves.
or can I big up the away numbers but not say they were or are shit
I don't know if you attend many away games but to keep moaning about our away support at every opportunity gets a bit tiresome.Theres a substantial difference between criticising a specific individual for not attending, which I don’t see anyone here doing (as AFKA said, many valid reasons and I’m not calling anyone out at all if they aren’t going cos the train tickets are 100quid +, or just they don’t fancy yet more depressing toilet league one football), and criticising the overall level of our support as a club, which generally in terms of away numbers across many years hasn’t been great as a collective, whatever the reasons might be! As an example… Bolton is 10 miles from Wigan, they are making the exact return journey as us… Orient away - same 17:30 KO, same £100+ train tickets (and probably less affluent support). Very comparable sized club on paper across the last 30 years. I don’t know how many they are taking but I would guess it will be double what we bring to Wigan.3 -
Watch the matches from wherever you like, you don’t have to justify yourself to anyone.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Childcare & financial reasons.JaShea99 said:
Why does it have to be one or the other?!SouthWest_Addicks said:
100% boss.AFKABartram said:
I really wanted to go, but the KO change and later return made me be 50/50, the fact that even with a family railcard it’s over £100 on rail fares for me and my son, when we can watch it live on Sky just made it a no brainer.paulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 1000Sure many others felt similar
Wanted to tick Wigan off as a new ground but KO made it a no go. Realistically there was one train back and that quickly became unaffordable once the advance ticket sold out. Earliest we could have got back to main station London is 11ish without any delays. Imagine most of us still have an hour plus connection from Euston/Kings Cross to our houses.
Whats the point of going Wigan for a 5:30PM when I can just go to Reading in a couple weeks time and not have any travel stress.
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paulsturgess said:
Tbf mate I mentioned the numbers topic in this instance and I don’t actually subscribe to the idea that you can only comment or criticise something if you go to the games. I don’t go to Fleetwood or Millwalls away games but I still reserve the right to slag off their away support!southamptonaddick said:
As far as I'm concerned you can say what you like on the club or management, that's your opinion.oohaahmortimer said:
I don't play or manage Charlton, am I allowed to criticise them or voice an opinion on thatsouthamptonaddick said:The only people who can, if they wish, criticise our level of away support are the ones who regularly attend away matches.
People who don't go should keep their opinions to themselves.
or can I big up the away numbers but not say they were or are shit
I don't know if you attend many away games but to keep moaning about our away support at every opportunity gets a bit tiresome.Theres a substantial difference between criticising a specific individual for not attending, which I don’t see anyone here doing (as AFKA said, many valid reasons and I’m not calling anyone out at all if they aren’t going cos the train tickets are 100quid +, or just they don’t fancy yet more depressing toilet league one football), and criticising the overall level of our support as a club, which generally in terms of away numbers across many years hasn’t been great as a collective, whatever the reasons might be! As an example… Bolton is 10 miles from Wigan, they are making the exact return journey as us… Orient away - same 17:30 KO, same £100+ train tickets (and probably less affluent support). Very comparable sized club on paper across the last 30 years. I don’t know how many they are taking but I would guess it will be double what we bring to Wigan.Wanderers will kickstart the season backed by a sold out away end for the trip to the Capital when facing Leyton Orient this weekend.
The full allocation of 1,200 will be heading to show their support Ian Evatt's side as Wanderers get their campaign underway on Saturday evening with a later kick off of 5:30pm.
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Going to London…or going to Wigan…you can make it a nice weekend for the family to London. Wigan..not many sights to see.1
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ahh fair play. small-ish allocation, my guess is they would have taken more with the option.clive said:paulsturgess said:
Tbf mate I mentioned the numbers topic in this instance and I don’t actually subscribe to the idea that you can only comment or criticise something if you go to the games. I don’t go to Fleetwood or Millwalls away games but I still reserve the right to slag off their away support!southamptonaddick said:
As far as I'm concerned you can say what you like on the club or management, that's your opinion.oohaahmortimer said:
I don't play or manage Charlton, am I allowed to criticise them or voice an opinion on thatsouthamptonaddick said:The only people who can, if they wish, criticise our level of away support are the ones who regularly attend away matches.
People who don't go should keep their opinions to themselves.
or can I big up the away numbers but not say they were or are shit
I don't know if you attend many away games but to keep moaning about our away support at every opportunity gets a bit tiresome.Theres a substantial difference between criticising a specific individual for not attending, which I don’t see anyone here doing (as AFKA said, many valid reasons and I’m not calling anyone out at all if they aren’t going cos the train tickets are 100quid +, or just they don’t fancy yet more depressing toilet league one football), and criticising the overall level of our support as a club, which generally in terms of away numbers across many years hasn’t been great as a collective, whatever the reasons might be! As an example… Bolton is 10 miles from Wigan, they are making the exact return journey as us… Orient away - same 17:30 KO, same £100+ train tickets (and probably less affluent support). Very comparable sized club on paper across the last 30 years. I don’t know how many they are taking but I would guess it will be double what we bring to Wigan.Wanderers will kickstart the season backed by a sold out away end for the trip to the Capital when facing Leyton Orient this weekend.
The full allocation of 1,200 will be heading to show their support Ian Evatt's side as Wanderers get their campaign underway on Saturday evening with a later kick off of 5:30pm.
anyway, I'm going up on Saturday and looking forward to it (with trepidation)0 -
This was exactly my mindset. Not a cheap journey at all, and with the later finish time, it would have pretty much ruined my Sunday as well.AFKABartram said:
I really wanted to go, but the KO change and later return made me be 50/50, the fact that even with a family railcard it’s over £100 on rail fares for me and my son, when we can watch it live on Sky just made it a no brainer.paulsturgess said:Yes I’m not criticising. Was more made in the context of relatively healthy away turnouts last year, first day of the season direct train thought we might exceed 1000Sure many others felt similar
Only thing I'm sad about is I was looking forward to vlogging again, but the money saved and time, really made it a no brainer. The only thing that could have swayed me was if it was a ground tick.0 -
A fair number of those probably have jobs down here and live in London. More will no doubt make a weekend of it in the capital.Red_Chester said:Going to London…or going to Wigan…you can make it a nice weekend for the family to London. Wigan..not many sights to see.4 -
I bet my last dollar that there are far, far many Bolton fans living in London than there are Charlton fans living in Wigan.paulsturgess said:
Tbf mate I mentioned the numbers topic in this instance and I don’t actually subscribe to the idea that you can only comment or criticise something if you go to the games. I don’t go to Fleetwood or Millwalls away games but I still reserve the right to slag off their away support!southamptonaddick said:
As far as I'm concerned you can say what you like on the club or management, that's your opinion.oohaahmortimer said:
I don't play or manage Charlton, am I allowed to criticise them or voice an opinion on thatsouthamptonaddick said:The only people who can, if they wish, criticise our level of away support are the ones who regularly attend away matches.
People who don't go should keep their opinions to themselves.
or can I big up the away numbers but not say they were or are shit
I don't know if you attend many away games but to keep moaning about our away support at every opportunity gets a bit tiresome.Theres a substantial difference between criticising a specific individual for not attending, which I don’t see anyone here doing (as AFKA said, many valid reasons and I’m not calling anyone out at all if they aren’t going cos the train tickets are 100quid +, or just they don’t fancy yet more depressing toilet league one football), and criticising the overall level of our support as a club, which generally in terms of away numbers across many years hasn’t been great as a collective, whatever the reasons might be! As an example… Bolton is 10 miles from Wigan, they are making the exact return journey as us… Orient away - same 17:30 KO, same £100+ train tickets (and probably less affluent support). Very comparable sized club on paper across the last 30 years. I don’t know how many they are taking but I would guess it will be double what we bring to Wigan.
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My son is 15 - This with bells on...Pavoren007 said:I am really looking forward to this one and will listen to some footie podcasts on the way up - @LouisMend will CharltonLive return this week ahead of Saturday? Way back down will either be a bouyant mood with TalkSport and music interspersed with lots of positive chatter around the season ahead, or it will be sombre and a long drive back with an angsty teenager. Either way, spending time with my 17 year son who was born into this lifelong suffering but shared passion for CAFC will make whatever it turns out to be worth every second with bells on. I have become a bit immune but cannot relate to the days when a defeat no matter who to would ruin the rest of your weekend…0 -
I'm surprised anyone is going after your review, especially youpaulsturgess said:Disappointing
Im sorry, I haven’t seen anything moving in the right direction. Literally nothing. I repeat; we just had our worst ever league finish.What you are referring to is literally the bare minimum; a few signings, a manager with a competent L1 track record (albeit incompetent above that) and a few inoffensive interviews online. Again, previous owners have managed this stuff. I recall people heaping praise on Sandgaard when he acquired the ladies team, mugged off Southall and talked about achieving Cat 1 academy status.Would you write a good review of a decorator on checkatrade when they turn up on the first Monday morning day with some tins of paint and a brush?
I don’t know how you have managed to erase the last decade from your head, I thought eternal sunshine of the spotless mind was fictional. These guys could still very much turn out to be crooks, chancers, incompetent, liars, all of the above. They are certainly in it for money and nothing else, like Slater/Jiminez et al were.Come back to me when they’ve won promotion and attendances are back above those we used to get for reserve games and I’ll gladly embrace you in a fit of joy (relief) whilst singing there’s only one Charlie Methven. In the meantime, I’m going to keep my glass half empty and hope that February at St Andrews will be just too early in the season to have to watch Alfie May clinch the L1 title against us.
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Spot on..My son is the only reason that I have kept going recently after 50 plus years. Our days out together are something we cherish . We will be there Saturday.SporadicAddick said:
My son is 15 - This with bells on...Pavoren007 said:I am really looking forward to this one and will listen to some footie podcasts on the way up - @LouisMend will CharltonLive return this week ahead of Saturday? Way back down will either be a bouyant mood with TalkSport and music interspersed with lots of positive chatter around the season ahead, or it will be sombre and a long drive back with an angsty teenager. Either way, spending time with my 17 year son who was born into this lifelong suffering but shared passion for CAFC will make whatever it turns out to be worth every second with bells on. I have become a bit immune but cannot relate to the days when a defeat no matter who to would ruin the rest of your weekend…
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800 addicks is a decent turn out for a 5:30pm game that is on the telly (& requires £100 in train travel costs)
Come on you reds! Let’s get off to a flying start.6 -
You calling me negative CE? 😂Covered End said:
I'm surprised anyone is going after your review, especially youpaulsturgess said:DisappointingIm sorry, I haven’t seen anything moving in the right direction. Literally nothing. I repeat; we just had our worst ever league finish.What you are referring to is literally the bare minimum; a few signings, a manager with a competent L1 track record (albeit incompetent above that) and a few inoffensive interviews online. Again, previous owners have managed this stuff. I recall people heaping praise on Sandgaard when he acquired the ladies team, mugged off Southall and talked about achieving Cat 1 academy status.Would you write a good review of a decorator on checkatrade when they turn up on the first Monday morning day with some tins of paint and a brush?
I don’t know how you have managed to erase the last decade from your head, I thought eternal sunshine of the spotless mind was fictional. These guys could still very much turn out to be crooks, chancers, incompetent, liars, all of the above. They are certainly in it for money and nothing else, like Slater/Jiminez et al were.Come back to me when they’ve won promotion and attendances are back above those we used to get for reserve games and I’ll gladly embrace you in a fit of joy (relief) whilst singing there’s only one Charlie Methven. In the meantime, I’m going to keep my glass half empty and hope that February at St Andrews will be just too early in the season to have to watch Alfie May clinch the L1 title against us.
the fact that even im going in blind hope despite that outlook is why I’m disappointed with only 800, thought there would be a few more with a less joy-sapping approach to life than me!0
