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Charlton Summer Transfer Rumours 2024

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    RonnieMoore said:
    Bods64 said:

    I’m not sure I fully understand Nathan’s stance regarding loan deals. He has stated that loan deals only benefit the parent club in improving the players ability. Whilst this may hold an element of truth surely a season long loan deal could benefit both parties? Of course we have loaned plenty of duds over the years but we undoubtedly gained some quality ones too. A certain player of the year in Jed Rak-Sakai comes to mind!

    That why he said he would only loan players if they were better then we had in that position or better then we could buy permanently… Rak-Sakai did not impress first few months in fact Charlton fans weee saying send him back leading up to the January window but he had an excellent last 2/3 months which is what people remember .. 
    No they weren't, at least not on here. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,029
    Swisdom said:
    Calloutyejam85 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Dixon, Potts, mystery GK.
    A 20+ striker is a must !! Oh dear 🤦‍♂️

    How many times have you seen Dixon play?

    Before we signed him I was excited at this raw but talented individual.
    what I’m hearing from the training ground is making me even more excited.  

    Pace like Campbell, stamina of a flying wingback, skills and tricks like nobody else we have. 
    He’s very raw but there is a lot of excitement about him.  Really has an x -factor about him.

    five him a bit of time to adjust.  Don’t put too much pressure on him and hopefully we won’t coach it all out of him. And then he’ll wreak havoc!  

    This sounds very exciting. Obviously I expect him to play U21s and Bristol Street Trophy at first just to get him acclimated but someone that's got TCs pace but with a bit more of a trick to his game is an very exciting option to potentially have. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Swisdom said:
    Calloutyejam85 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Dixon, Potts, mystery GK.
    A 20+ striker is a must !! Oh dear 🤦‍♂️

    How many times have you seen Dixon play?

    Before we signed him I was excited at this raw but talented individual.
    what I’m hearing from the training ground is making me even more excited.  

    Pace like Campbell, stamina of a flying wingback, skills and tricks like nobody else we have. 
    He’s very raw but there is a lot of excitement about him.  Really has an x -factor about him.

    five him a bit of time to adjust.  Don’t put too much pressure on him and hopefully we won’t coach it all out of him. And then he’ll wreak havoc!  
    I can't wait to see him get sold to Birmingham for tuppence in January.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,159
    Michael Cooper has just joined Sheffield Utd, meaning that Adam Davies is back to the bench which is nice, but also that Plymouth now only have one keeper on the books and will be in for one themselves. It's a weird keeper market this summer. There were some rolled eyes when we signed Mannion as a potential backup when we already had two keepers but I'm very glad we did or we would have had to start this season with AMB or Isted in goal again.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Garrymanilow said:
    Michael Cooper has just joined Sheffield Utd, meaning that Adam Davies is back to the bench which is nice, but also that Plymouth now only have one keeper on the books and will be in for one themselves. It's a weird keeper market this summer. There were some rolled eyes when we signed Mannion as a potential backup when we already had two keepers but I'm very glad we did or we would have had to start this season with AMB or Isted in goal again.
    Not being able to sign seal and deliver on a "senior" 1st choice keeper is probably the biggest stick you could beat the club with in this window and fairly so to a certain extent...  but you do have to say that it's been a bit of a tricky time for everyone where keeper are involved.

    Chelsea have about 8 and everyone below that is in some weird 4D poker game trying to sign just one (I know they are not directly linked just showing the general weirdness.)
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Dixon securing a work permit and permissions seems to be the big problem with that transfer.
    I wouldn’t mentally factor him in until he becomes a realistic option to pick, at the moment he is a bit of a fantasy and each of us is imprinting on his name and game the player we would like him to be.
    Wait and see, it might go all Andy Delort.
    As for loans, we ought to have learned our lesson by now, never loan an indifferent player in from a ‘bigger’ club unless they will definitely do a better job than one of our eager youngsters coming through.
    It is an unnecessary spend and a poor signal to our own guys

  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    seth plum said:
    Dixon securing a work permit and permissions seems to be the big problem with that transfer.
    I wouldn’t mentally factor him in until he becomes a realistic option to pick, at the moment he is a bit of a fantasy and each of us is imprinting on his name and game the player we would like him to be.
    Wait and see, it might go all Andy Delort.
    As for loans, we ought to have learned our lesson by now, never loan an indifferent player in from a ‘bigger’ club unless they will definitely do a better job than one of our eager youngsters coming through.
    It is an unnecessary spend and a poor signal to our own guys

    Wouldn’t say there are any problems just that these things take time and that will be factored in
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    fenaddick said:
    seth plum said:
    Dixon securing a work permit and permissions seems to be the big problem with that transfer.
    I wouldn’t mentally factor him in until he becomes a realistic option to pick, at the moment he is a bit of a fantasy and each of us is imprinting on his name and game the player we would like him to be.
    Wait and see, it might go all Andy Delort.
    As for loans, we ought to have learned our lesson by now, never loan an indifferent player in from a ‘bigger’ club unless they will definitely do a better job than one of our eager youngsters coming through.
    It is an unnecessary spend and a poor signal to our own guys

    Wouldn’t say there are any problems just that these things take time and that will be factored in
    When you say takes time, I imagine there might be several tens of thousands in the queue ahead of Dixon waiting for an ordinary UK work permit, unless there is some kind of fast track option.
    Wouldn’t the authorities favour a surgeon over a footballer?
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,032
    seth plum said:
    fenaddick said:
    seth plum said:
    Dixon securing a work permit and permissions seems to be the big problem with that transfer.
    I wouldn’t mentally factor him in until he becomes a realistic option to pick, at the moment he is a bit of a fantasy and each of us is imprinting on his name and game the player we would like him to be.
    Wait and see, it might go all Andy Delort.
    As for loans, we ought to have learned our lesson by now, never loan an indifferent player in from a ‘bigger’ club unless they will definitely do a better job than one of our eager youngsters coming through.
    It is an unnecessary spend and a poor signal to our own guys

    Wouldn’t say there are any problems just that these things take time and that will be factored in
    When you say takes time, I imagine there might be several tens of thousands in the queue ahead of Dixon waiting for an ordinary UK work permit, unless there is some kind of fast track option.
    Wouldn’t the authorities favour a surgeon over a footballer?
    You can usually pay a bit extra with visas for priority or super priority which give a decision within 5 days and 1 day respectively. Whilst expensive for the average person, I'd expect the club to use this option if possible
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,442
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/terry-taylor-looking-surplus-to-requirements-at-charlton-athletic/
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  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,032
    clive said:
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/terry-taylor-looking-surplus-to-requirements-at-charlton-athletic/
    Probably best for him to move on, I do feel like we could live to regret it so would prefer a loan out.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,029
    Feels like Taylor is one that's never quite going to work out. The injuries really haven't helped his cause and now Coventry is the undisputed starter in his position, he's not going to get games with us because I don't think he can play further forward and compete with Doc,Berry and Anderson for one of those 2 slots. 

    I am not surprised there's interest from Rotherham though, he came with a good reputation from Burton. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    follett said:
    clive said:
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/terry-taylor-looking-surplus-to-requirements-at-charlton-athletic/
    Probably best for him to move on, I do feel like we could live to regret it so would prefer a loan out.
    I’d be really upset if I were behind Edun as a midfield option .  That said , I don’t see a lot of glamour in our midfield so if he sits tight, he might get games . 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    clive said:
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/terry-taylor-looking-surplus-to-requirements-at-charlton-athletic/
    Thats a shame, he could be like a new signing for someone.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,222
    Surprised at this, thought he looked really good in preseason
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Swisdom said:
    Calloutyejam85 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Dixon, Potts, mystery GK.
    A 20+ striker is a must !! Oh dear 🤦‍♂️

    How many times have you seen Dixon play?

    Before we signed him I was excited at this raw but talented individual.
    what I’m hearing from the training ground is making me even more excited.  

    Pace like Campbell, stamina of a flying wingback, skills and tricks like nobody else we have. 
    He’s very raw but there is a lot of excitement about him.  Really has an x -factor about him.

    five him a bit of time to adjust.  Don’t put too much pressure on him and hopefully we won’t coach it all out of him. And then he’ll wreak havoc!  
    That’s exactly what I was hoping to hear about him. My slight concern is that Jones doesn’t seem to like mavericks and ends up stifling the lad with duties he’s not suited for. We certainly need a factor x player because and I know it’s early days, we look devoid of anything exciting. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Garrymanilow said:
    Michael Cooper has just joined Sheffield Utd, meaning that Adam Davies is back to the bench which is nice, but also that Plymouth now only have one keeper on the books and will be in for one themselves. It's a weird keeper market this summer. There were some rolled eyes when we signed Mannion as a potential backup when we already had two keepers but I'm very glad we did or we would have had to start this season with AMB or Isted in goal again.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c5y573410e5o

    "Plymouth Argyle boss Wayne Rooney says goalkeeper Michael Cooper has wanted to leave since he took over"  :D
  • alburyaddick
    alburyaddick Posts: 574
    The thing thats particularly disappointing about Terry Taylor is that when he arrived from Burton and you looked at his compilation video, his best attribute was dead ball deliveries from corners and free kicks. We are completely hopeless at that. I think Coventry is a decent player but he cant take a decent free kick and we never seem to score from corners either 
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,158
    Feel that Taylor hasn’t had a fair crack of the whip, so, can’t be good for his morale that he’s not been given a chance. 

    Having said that, Jones will have seen him in pre season games/training to have formed an impression and I/we just have to trust his judgement.
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Would have liked to see Taylor being given a proper chance, shame he didn't start again Brum let alone wasn't on the bench. 
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,346
    edited August 2024
    clive said:
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/terry-taylor-looking-surplus-to-requirements-at-charlton-athletic/
    That "he's being rested for next season" was a top notch CL Faux Fact though, well played. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
    follett said:
    seth plum said:
    fenaddick said:
    seth plum said:
    Dixon securing a work permit and permissions seems to be the big problem with that transfer.
    I wouldn’t mentally factor him in until he becomes a realistic option to pick, at the moment he is a bit of a fantasy and each of us is imprinting on his name and game the player we would like him to be.
    Wait and see, it might go all Andy Delort.
    As for loans, we ought to have learned our lesson by now, never loan an indifferent player in from a ‘bigger’ club unless they will definitely do a better job than one of our eager youngsters coming through.
    It is an unnecessary spend and a poor signal to our own guys

    Wouldn’t say there are any problems just that these things take time and that will be factored in
    When you say takes time, I imagine there might be several tens of thousands in the queue ahead of Dixon waiting for an ordinary UK work permit, unless there is some kind of fast track option.
    Wouldn’t the authorities favour a surgeon over a footballer?
    You can usually pay a bit extra with visas for priority or super priority which give a decision within 5 days and 1 day respectively. Whilst expensive for the average person, I'd expect the club to use this option if possible
    Also the FA is registered as an issuing authority so not as if he has to queue up in Croydon.

    But as ever WIOTOS
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Henry Irving said:
    follett said:
    seth plum said:
    fenaddick said:
    seth plum said:
    Dixon securing a work permit and permissions seems to be the big problem with that transfer.
    I wouldn’t mentally factor him in until he becomes a realistic option to pick, at the moment he is a bit of a fantasy and each of us is imprinting on his name and game the player we would like him to be.
    Wait and see, it might go all Andy Delort.
    As for loans, we ought to have learned our lesson by now, never loan an indifferent player in from a ‘bigger’ club unless they will definitely do a better job than one of our eager youngsters coming through.
    It is an unnecessary spend and a poor signal to our own guys

    Wouldn’t say there are any problems just that these things take time and that will be factored in
    When you say takes time, I imagine there might be several tens of thousands in the queue ahead of Dixon waiting for an ordinary UK work permit, unless there is some kind of fast track option.
    Wouldn’t the authorities favour a surgeon over a footballer?
    You can usually pay a bit extra with visas for priority or super priority which give a decision within 5 days and 1 day respectively. Whilst expensive for the average person, I'd expect the club to use this option if possible
    Also the FA is registered as an issuing authority so not as if he has to queue up in Croydon.

    But as ever WIOTOS
    Priority is £500 and super priority is £1000, peanuts for a football club really.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Two weeks to get Dixons work permit sorted out. Anyone else thinking this ain’t going to happen in time ?
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Two weeks to get Dixons work permit sorted out. Anyone else thinking this ain’t going to happen in time ?
    No. Two weeks is plenty. If we get to a day or two before with nothing, then maybe it's more worrying, but not yet.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    sillav nitram said:
    Feel that Taylor hasn’t had a fair crack of the whip, so, can’t be good for his morale that he’s not been given a chance. 

    Having said that, Jones will have seen him in pre season games/training to have formed an impression and I/we just have to trust his judgement.
    I think you are right sillav but there is also the situation of Jones wanting to add to the squad and letting players go from positions in which we are well covered to facilitate new arrivals. 
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,736
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Two weeks to get Dixons work permit sorted out. Anyone else thinking this ain’t going to happen in time ?

    Pretty sure Chelsea have a history of signing players who weren't eligible for work permits and then loaning them out to countries where there weren't the same restrictions.

    In fact didn't we do the same with a couple of young African lads a few years back?

    Surely the worst case scenario is we complete the signing without the permit (assuming we are 100% confident it will get granted eventually) and he just trains with us till the paperwork is rubber stamped.
  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 2,620
    Clem_Snide said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Two weeks to get Dixons work permit sorted out. Anyone else thinking this ain’t going to happen in time ?

    Pretty sure Chelsea have a history of signing players who weren't eligible for work permits and then loaning them out to countries where there weren't the same restrictions.

    In fact didn't we do the same with a couple of young African lads a few years back?

    Surely the worst case scenario is we complete the signing without the permit (assuming we are 100% confident it will get granted eventually) and he just trains with us till the paperwork is rubber stamped.
    Yep, back in 2008 we signed 5 players from Ivory Coast. None of whom had a work permit. Looking at their careers I don't think we missed much tbh:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konan_Serge_Kouadio
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serges_D%C3%A9bl%C3%A9
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isma%C3%ABl_B%C3%A9ko_Fofana
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakary_Soro
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyriac

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Our midfield looks pretty weak when Taylor goes. Suspect we’ll sign one when Fraser goes and Edun will be the 6th choice 
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