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Former Academy keeper James Beadle - training with England 1st team (p10)
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Confirmed that he has been recalled by Brighton
https://www.oufc.co.uk/news/2024/january/james-beadle-departs/
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Signed for sheff Wednesday1
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On loan.Red_Chester said:Signed for sheff Wednesday0 -
Anyone else think it's odd that a club loans a player for a season but recalls the player to loan them to a higher league if they are doing well?
of this is to become the norm, maybe loans should be up to January with an option to extend
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He's done well for himself... Showing the promise that saw him mentioned as one to look out for whilst here - Academy has done something right in that sense.0
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I honestly can't see the advantage in moving a keeper mid season if they are doing well. They are in good form, guaranteed game time, will have the support of the crowd on their side. I also don't think in goalkeeping terms there is that much difference between the Championship and League one.
The Sheffield Wednesday keeper is doing really well at the moment, so I can't see him just shifting him out of the team straight away.1 -
Agreed. The only reason I can think of is if the parent club loans a keeper to a club because they pass from the back, and that manager is replaced by one who wants the keeper to kick long instead, but I don't think that is the case here.RC_CAFC said:I honestly can't see the advantage in moving a keeper mid season if they are doing well. They are in good form, guaranteed game time, will have the support of the crowd on their side. I also don't think in goalkeeping terms there is that much difference between the Championship and League one.
The Sheffield Wednesday keeper is doing really well at the moment, so I can't see him just shifting him out of the team straight away.
Beadle is 19, so would surely benefit from being in a relatively low pressure environment at Oxford more than a high pressure relegation scrap at a bigger club?4 -
I would say that would help him..killerandflash said:
Agreed. The only reason I can think of is if the parent club loans a keeper to a club because they pass from the back, and that manager is replaced by one who wants the keeper to kick long instead, but I don't think that is the case here.RC_CAFC said:I honestly can't see the advantage in moving a keeper mid season if they are doing well. They are in good form, guaranteed game time, will have the support of the crowd on their side. I also don't think in goalkeeping terms there is that much difference between the Championship and League one.
The Sheffield Wednesday keeper is doing really well at the moment, so I can't see him just shifting him out of the team straight away.
Beadle is 19, so would surely benefit from being in a relatively low pressure environment at Oxford more than a high pressure relegation scrap at a bigger club?0 -
He was at one point I believe close to being let go. He was never expected to be the size that he is, the biometric calculator they use had him to be much smaller. Goes to show, there are probably so many different factors involved in the decision to let go of academy players when ultimately, ability should always be the deciding factor. Thankfully for Beadle, he’s shown to have plenty of it as well as proving you can’t go by a scientific biometric machine.ForeverAddickted said:He's done well for himself... Showing the promise that saw him mentioned as one to look out for whilst here - Academy has done something right in that sense.6 -
Saw him live in the FA Youth Cup back in 2021 and could just tell from watching him he was destined for big things. Sometimes you just watch a player and can tell they've got "it". Although I think of the starting XI I saw that night at Worthing it's just Adigun, Huke and Bower that haven't made a first team appearance.1
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Played today for Wednesday1
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Following a successful loan at Wednesday last season, James is returning on loan for another season with them from Brighton. The interesting thing is that they have also signed another of our former keepers, Ben Hamer, on a free but as the latter is 36 and Brighton wouldn't send him out if he wasn't getting game time, I would be very surprised if he isn't first choice, initially at least.
As many know, both James and his brother, Harry, were with us from the age of 9 through to the Academy and left us within a year or so of each other. Harry was released and secured a contract at Colchester but never played more than a couple of minor games for them. Following a couple of loans, he has now signed for Aveley who are in the National League South.
Same Charlton Academy but ended up at much different levels with James being tipped as a potential future England keeper (played at all levels from U15 and was in the England U20 squad last season). Knowing Harry as I do, he will be absolutely elated for his brother should that ever happen but there is no doubt that they both, once upon a time, had the very same dreams. Such is football.4 -
I'd love to know how that is calculated because I'm sure that both his Mum and Dad are over 6 foot.Sage said:
He was at one point I believe close to being let go. He was never expected to be the size that he is, the biometric calculator they use had him to be much smaller. Goes to show, there are probably so many different factors involved in the decision to let go of academy players when ultimately, ability should always be the deciding factor. Thankfully for Beadle, he’s shown to have plenty of it as well as proving you can’t go by a scientific biometric machine.ForeverAddickted said:He's done well for himself... Showing the promise that saw him mentioned as one to look out for whilst here - Academy has done something right in that sense.0 -
Hadn't given this bloke much thought. Didn't realise it was him in goal for Oxford when they beat us at The Valley last year until after the game either. Looked decent, but his celebration in front of the CE after they scored left a bit of a sour taste in the mouth once I realised who he was! Especially from a lad who'd been at the club since the age of 9. Can't say I'll be cheering him on as "one of our own" if he makes it to the top tbh.2
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YTS1978 said:Hadn't given this bloke much thought. Didn't realise it was him in goal for Oxford when they beat us at The Valley last year until after the game either. Looked decent, but his celebration in front of the CE after they scored left a bit of a sour taste in the mouth once I realised who he was! Especially from a lad who'd been at the club since the age of 9. Can't say I'll be cheering him on as "one of our own" if he makes it to the top tbh.
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Absolutely no chance.Kap10 said:YTS1978 said:Hadn't given this bloke much thought. Didn't realise it was him in goal for Oxford when they beat us at The Valley last year until after the game either. Looked decent, but his celebration in front of the CE after they scored left a bit of a sour taste in the mouth once I realised who he was! Especially from a lad who'd been at the club since the age of 9. Can't say I'll be cheering him on as "one of our own" if he makes it to the top tbh.
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James wasn't just with us from the age of 9. He and Harry didn't just come through our age group system. With their Dad they followed us home and away.
I also believe that James signed a contract so we did get a fee instead of having to go to a tribunal for a reported £400k-£500k. And there is a sell on fee mentioned as taking the total fee to £1m, making it the biggest fee ever paid for a keeper of his age at that time.
So, he was an 19 year old lad got caught up in the moment of celebrating a goal for the team he was playing for at that time. If one of our players refused to celebrate a goal against one of his ex-clubs would he be in the sin bin too? Equally, it's like saying to a former Kent bowler that he shouldn't celebrate a wicket because he used to play for the County he was facing. Let's take all the emotion out of sport shall we? Will those that bemoan about that celebration completely erase him from their minds or mercilessly complain if a paper or commentator doesn't mention that he came through our Academy? After all, as stated above, he isn't "one of our own"/
I would like to think that we are a bit more understanding than that especially as the whole family are Charlton regardless of who they currently work for now. Whatever people think. Harry and James are very much "two of our own". See below.
James on the left and Harry in the middle
The two together
Harry on the left with the arm raised.
Harry in the middle with the jumper round his waist
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Think I saw one of his last games for Charlton down at Worthing in the FA Youth Cup, could just tell he was destined for bigger things , a year working with an experienced keeper like Hamer and under SCP can only do him good. Have some long term concerns with Brighton's logjam of keepers they keep on adding to but that's for the future.3
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I don’t know the details of it but I know they look at scans and then on a graph to determine the end results. I suppose a bit like they do for babies. Either way, it was wrong and should always be taken with caution, as shown.Addick Addict said:
I'd love to know how that is calculated because I'm sure that both his Mum and Dad are over 6 foot.Sage said:
He was at one point I believe close to being let go. He was never expected to be the size that he is, the biometric calculator they use had him to be much smaller. Goes to show, there are probably so many different factors involved in the decision to let go of academy players when ultimately, ability should always be the deciding factor. Thankfully for Beadle, he’s shown to have plenty of it as well as proving you can’t go by a scientific biometric machine.ForeverAddickted said:He's done well for himself... Showing the promise that saw him mentioned as one to look out for whilst here - Academy has done something right in that sense.1 -
I believe that he's 6' 5'' now so they weren't wrong by much!Sage said:
I don’t know the details of it but I know they look at scans and then on a graph to determine the end results. I suppose a bit like they do for babies. Either way, it was wrong and should always be taken with caution, as shown.Addick Addict said:
I'd love to know how that is calculated because I'm sure that both his Mum and Dad are over 6 foot.Sage said:
He was at one point I believe close to being let go. He was never expected to be the size that he is, the biometric calculator they use had him to be much smaller. Goes to show, there are probably so many different factors involved in the decision to let go of academy players when ultimately, ability should always be the deciding factor. Thankfully for Beadle, he’s shown to have plenty of it as well as proving you can’t go by a scientific biometric machine.ForeverAddickted said:He's done well for himself... Showing the promise that saw him mentioned as one to look out for whilst here - Academy has done something right in that sense.3 - Sponsored links:
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Not really my point mate tbh. You're clearly very close to the family, but what's that go to do with my comment? They support Charlton, yes. But the lad jumped ship as soon as he got the chance, regardless of £500k compensation, him and his brother had the privilege of being trained up at Charlton for however many years? Doubt the comp touches the sides when it comes to academy costs, but others will know more. The only reason I knew who he was after that game was that I thought it weird for an oppo keeper to be celebrating like that after he'd not had any stick from the home fans. Then I was even more surprised when I found out who he was. Good luck to him. I hope he does well and has a successful career. However, if he ends up playing for England in 5yrs time (which he could very well do) I won't be crowing about him being a Charlton Boy and one of our own. That's for players who actually hung around for a bit and played a few games. Not controversial.Addick Addict said:James wasn't just with us from the age of 9. He and Harry didn't just come through our age group system. With their Dad they followed us home and away.
I also believe that James signed a contract so we did get a fee instead of having to go to a tribunal for a reported £400k-£500k. And there is a sell on fee mentioned as taking the total fee to £1m, making it the biggest fee ever paid for a keeper of his age at that time.
So, he was an 19 year old lad got caught up in the moment of celebrating a goal for the team he was playing for at that time. If one of our players refused to celebrate a goal against one of his ex-clubs would he be in the sin bin too? Equally, it's like saying to a former Kent bowler that he shouldn't celebrate a wicket because he used to play for the County he was facing. Let's take all the emotion out of sport shall we? Will those that bemoan about that celebration completely erase him from their minds or mercilessly complain if a paper or commentator doesn't mention that he came through our Academy? After all, as stated above, he isn't "one of our own"/
I would like to think that we are a bit more understanding than that especially as the whole family are Charlton regardless of who they currently work for now. Whatever people think. Harry and James are very much "two of our own". See below.
James on the left and Harry in the middle
The two together
Harry on the left with the arm raised.
Harry in the middle with the jumper round his waist
Edit. Nice pictures btw2 -
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I totally respect your decision to cheer on who you like but are you proud of Joe Gomez and his roots when he plays for England? He left us when he was 18 years and 28 days old. James Beadle was older when he joined Brighton at 18 years and 46 days old. Unlike Gomez, he didn't get a chance to play for the first team because he is a keeper.YTS1978 said:
Not really my point mate tbh. You're clearly very close to the family, but what's that go to do with my comment? They support Charlton, yes. But the lad jumped ship as soon as he got the chance, regardless of £500k compensation, him and his brother had the privilege of being trained up at Charlton for however many years? Doubt the comp touches the sides when it comes to academy costs, but others will know more. The only reason I knew who he was after that game was that I thought it weird for an oppo keeper to be celebrating like that after he'd not had any stick from the home fans. Then I was even more surprised when I found out who he was. Good luck to him. I hope he does well and has a successful career. However, if he ends up playing for England in 5yrs time (which he could very well do) I won't be crowing about him being a Charlton Boy and one of our own. That's for players who actually hung around for a bit and played a few games. Not controversial.Addick Addict said:James wasn't just with us from the age of 9. He and Harry didn't just come through our age group system. With their Dad they followed us home and away.
I also believe that James signed a contract so we did get a fee instead of having to go to a tribunal for a reported £400k-£500k. And there is a sell on fee mentioned as taking the total fee to £1m, making it the biggest fee ever paid for a keeper of his age at that time.
So, he was an 19 year old lad got caught up in the moment of celebrating a goal for the team he was playing for at that time. If one of our players refused to celebrate a goal against one of his ex-clubs would he be in the sin bin too? Equally, it's like saying to a former Kent bowler that he shouldn't celebrate a wicket because he used to play for the County he was facing. Let's take all the emotion out of sport shall we? Will those that bemoan about that celebration completely erase him from their minds or mercilessly complain if a paper or commentator doesn't mention that he came through our Academy? After all, as stated above, he isn't "one of our own"/
I would like to think that we are a bit more understanding than that especially as the whole family are Charlton regardless of who they currently work for now. Whatever people think. Harry and James are very much "two of our own". See below.
James on the left and Harry in the middle
The two together
Harry on the left with the arm raised.
Harry in the middle with the jumper round his waist
Edit. Nice pictures btw
We've never done that with our keepers. Ask Pope, Elliott, Randolph (all internationals) and AMB who were all at least 22 before they had played more than a handful of games. Beadle would have been sent out on loan to a National League or League 2 team at best for two or three years to gain experience. It is only because he went to a PL club that he was in such demand - he started at Crewe for three months in League 2, then Oxford in League 1 for half a season followed by Sheffield Wednesday for the second half of that season in the Championship and again there this season. By definition, had he stayed with us he wouldn't be playing in the Championship in the same way as Gomez wouldn't have been playing in the Champions League. He's still only just 20 but is miles ahead in term of experience then he would have been had he stayed with us. The reality is, though, that his longevity with us is no different to that of Gomez.
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My 5yr prediction may have to be shortened it seems 😀1
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Good for him. He is extremely well thought of in the game.
Like it or not but he is and was a Charlton fan, he grew up here. It wasn't a matter of "jumping ship" at the first opportunity. We, as a club, were an absolute binfire at the time and he had a chance to step up the leagues to a club with much better coaching and much better prospects.
He could have just gone and that be the end of it (like Largie Ramazzani and Jeremy Sarmiento did) but he chose to make sure we got a record fee for a player who had never played for us - and realistically wouldn't for a few more years.
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Addick Addict said:
I totally respect your decision to cheer on who you like but are you proud of Joe Gomez and his roots when he plays for England? He left us when he was 18 years and 28 days old. James Beadle was older when he joined Brighton at 18 years and 46 days old. Unlike Gomez, he didn't get a chance to play for the first team because he is a keeper.YTS1978 said:
Not really my point mate tbh. You're clearly very close to the family, but what's that go to do with my comment? They support Charlton, yes. But the lad jumped ship as soon as he got the chance, regardless of £500k compensation, him and his brother had the privilege of being trained up at Charlton for however many years? Doubt the comp touches the sides when it comes to academy costs, but others will know more. The only reason I knew who he was after that game was that I thought it weird for an oppo keeper to be celebrating like that after he'd not had any stick from the home fans. Then I was even more surprised when I found out who he was. Good luck to him. I hope he does well and has a successful career. However, if he ends up playing for England in 5yrs time (which he could very well do) I won't be crowing about him being a Charlton Boy and one of our own. That's for players who actually hung around for a bit and played a few games. Not controversial.Addick Addict said:James wasn't just with us from the age of 9. He and Harry didn't just come through our age group system. With their Dad they followed us home and away.
I also believe that James signed a contract so we did get a fee instead of having to go to a tribunal for a reported £400k-£500k. And there is a sell on fee mentioned as taking the total fee to £1m, making it the biggest fee ever paid for a keeper of his age at that time.
So, he was an 19 year old lad got caught up in the moment of celebrating a goal for the team he was playing for at that time. If one of our players refused to celebrate a goal against one of his ex-clubs would he be in the sin bin too? Equally, it's like saying to a former Kent bowler that he shouldn't celebrate a wicket because he used to play for the County he was facing. Let's take all the emotion out of sport shall we? Will those that bemoan about that celebration completely erase him from their minds or mercilessly complain if a paper or commentator doesn't mention that he came through our Academy? After all, as stated above, he isn't "one of our own"/
I would like to think that we are a bit more understanding than that especially as the whole family are Charlton regardless of who they currently work for now. Whatever people think. Harry and James are very much "two of our own". See below.
James on the left and Harry in the middle
The two together
Harry on the left with the arm raised.
Harry in the middle with the jumper round his waist
Edit. Nice pictures btw
We've never done that with our keepers. Ask Pope, Elliott, Randolph (all internationals) and AMB who were all at least 22 before they had played more than a handful of games. Beadle would have been sent out on loan to a National League or League 2 team at best for two or three years to gain experience. It is only because he went to a PL club that he was in such demand - he started at Crewe for three months in League 2, then Oxford in League 1 for half a season followed by Sheffield Wednesday for the second half of that season in the Championship and again there this season. By definition, had he stayed with us he wouldn't be playing in the Championship in the same way as Gomez wouldn't have been playing in the Champions League. He's still only just 20 but is miles ahead in term of experience then he would have been had he stayed with us. The reality is, though, that his longevity with us is no different to that of Gomez.
The likes of Gomez and Konsa did at least sign professional contracts with us, so we got more money. Indeed if Gomez ever leaves Liverpool for a big fee, it'll be a LOT more money.
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I thought that he did sign a contract which is why a fee was paid and not compensation? As Swisdom says, he could have left several years before (was playing up an age group for England from U15s onwards), like any number before him but stayed and secured us a record fee for someone who has never played for us.killerandflash said:Addick Addict said:
I totally respect your decision to cheer on who you like but are you proud of Joe Gomez and his roots when he plays for England? He left us when he was 18 years and 28 days old. James Beadle was older when he joined Brighton at 18 years and 46 days old. Unlike Gomez, he didn't get a chance to play for the first team because he is a keeper.YTS1978 said:
Not really my point mate tbh. You're clearly very close to the family, but what's that go to do with my comment? They support Charlton, yes. But the lad jumped ship as soon as he got the chance, regardless of £500k compensation, him and his brother had the privilege of being trained up at Charlton for however many years? Doubt the comp touches the sides when it comes to academy costs, but others will know more. The only reason I knew who he was after that game was that I thought it weird for an oppo keeper to be celebrating like that after he'd not had any stick from the home fans. Then I was even more surprised when I found out who he was. Good luck to him. I hope he does well and has a successful career. However, if he ends up playing for England in 5yrs time (which he could very well do) I won't be crowing about him being a Charlton Boy and one of our own. That's for players who actually hung around for a bit and played a few games. Not controversial.Addick Addict said:James wasn't just with us from the age of 9. He and Harry didn't just come through our age group system. With their Dad they followed us home and away.
I also believe that James signed a contract so we did get a fee instead of having to go to a tribunal for a reported £400k-£500k. And there is a sell on fee mentioned as taking the total fee to £1m, making it the biggest fee ever paid for a keeper of his age at that time.
So, he was an 19 year old lad got caught up in the moment of celebrating a goal for the team he was playing for at that time. If one of our players refused to celebrate a goal against one of his ex-clubs would he be in the sin bin too? Equally, it's like saying to a former Kent bowler that he shouldn't celebrate a wicket because he used to play for the County he was facing. Let's take all the emotion out of sport shall we? Will those that bemoan about that celebration completely erase him from their minds or mercilessly complain if a paper or commentator doesn't mention that he came through our Academy? After all, as stated above, he isn't "one of our own"/
I would like to think that we are a bit more understanding than that especially as the whole family are Charlton regardless of who they currently work for now. Whatever people think. Harry and James are very much "two of our own". See below.
James on the left and Harry in the middle
The two together
Harry on the left with the arm raised.
Harry in the middle with the jumper round his waist
Edit. Nice pictures btw
We've never done that with our keepers. Ask Pope, Elliott, Randolph (all internationals) and AMB who were all at least 22 before they had played more than a handful of games. Beadle would have been sent out on loan to a National League or League 2 team at best for two or three years to gain experience. It is only because he went to a PL club that he was in such demand - he started at Crewe for three months in League 2, then Oxford in League 1 for half a season followed by Sheffield Wednesday for the second half of that season in the Championship and again there this season. By definition, had he stayed with us he wouldn't be playing in the Championship in the same way as Gomez wouldn't have been playing in the Champions League. He's still only just 20 but is miles ahead in term of experience then he would have been had he stayed with us. The reality is, though, that his longevity with us is no different to that of Gomez.
The likes of Gomez and Konsa did at least sign professional contracts with us, so we got more money. Indeed if Gomez ever leaves Liverpool for a big fee, it'll be a LOT more money.3 -
The operative word here is IF.🧐killerandflash said:Addick Addict said:
I totally respect your decision to cheer on who you like but are you proud of Joe Gomez and his roots when he plays for England? He left us when he was 18 years and 28 days old. James Beadle was older when he joined Brighton at 18 years and 46 days old. Unlike Gomez, he didn't get a chance to play for the first team because he is a keeper.YTS1978 said:
Not really my point mate tbh. You're clearly very close to the family, but what's that go to do with my comment? They support Charlton, yes. But the lad jumped ship as soon as he got the chance, regardless of £500k compensation, him and his brother had the privilege of being trained up at Charlton for however many years? Doubt the comp touches the sides when it comes to academy costs, but others will know more. The only reason I knew who he was after that game was that I thought it weird for an oppo keeper to be celebrating like that after he'd not had any stick from the home fans. Then I was even more surprised when I found out who he was. Good luck to him. I hope he does well and has a successful career. However, if he ends up playing for England in 5yrs time (which he could very well do) I won't be crowing about him being a Charlton Boy and one of our own. That's for players who actually hung around for a bit and played a few games. Not controversial.Addick Addict said:James wasn't just with us from the age of 9. He and Harry didn't just come through our age group system. With their Dad they followed us home and away.
I also believe that James signed a contract so we did get a fee instead of having to go to a tribunal for a reported £400k-£500k. And there is a sell on fee mentioned as taking the total fee to £1m, making it the biggest fee ever paid for a keeper of his age at that time.
So, he was an 19 year old lad got caught up in the moment of celebrating a goal for the team he was playing for at that time. If one of our players refused to celebrate a goal against one of his ex-clubs would he be in the sin bin too? Equally, it's like saying to a former Kent bowler that he shouldn't celebrate a wicket because he used to play for the County he was facing. Let's take all the emotion out of sport shall we? Will those that bemoan about that celebration completely erase him from their minds or mercilessly complain if a paper or commentator doesn't mention that he came through our Academy? After all, as stated above, he isn't "one of our own"/
I would like to think that we are a bit more understanding than that especially as the whole family are Charlton regardless of who they currently work for now. Whatever people think. Harry and James are very much "two of our own". See below.
James on the left and Harry in the middle
The two together
Harry on the left with the arm raised.
Harry in the middle with the jumper round his waist
Edit. Nice pictures btw
We've never done that with our keepers. Ask Pope, Elliott, Randolph (all internationals) and AMB who were all at least 22 before they had played more than a handful of games. Beadle would have been sent out on loan to a National League or League 2 team at best for two or three years to gain experience. It is only because he went to a PL club that he was in such demand - he started at Crewe for three months in League 2, then Oxford in League 1 for half a season followed by Sheffield Wednesday for the second half of that season in the Championship and again there this season. By definition, had he stayed with us he wouldn't be playing in the Championship in the same way as Gomez wouldn't have been playing in the Champions League. He's still only just 20 but is miles ahead in term of experience then he would have been had he stayed with us. The reality is, though, that his longevity with us is no different to that of Gomez.
The likes of Gomez and Konsa did at least sign professional contracts with us, so we got more money. Indeed if Gomez ever leaves Liverpool for a big fee, it'll be a LOT more money.0 -
Not sure he signed pro, if he did I don’t think the club announced it. A few people in the first few pages of this thread confirmed we accepted a bid from Brighton rather than them paying compensation. If he never signed pro then presumably Beadle and his family pushed for that.Addick Addict said:
I thought that he did sign a contract which is why a fee was paid and not compensation? As Swisdom says, he could have left several years before (was playing up an age group for England from U15s onwards), like any number before him but stayed and secured us a record fee for someone who has never played for us.killerandflash said:Addick Addict said:
I totally respect your decision to cheer on who you like but are you proud of Joe Gomez and his roots when he plays for England? He left us when he was 18 years and 28 days old. James Beadle was older when he joined Brighton at 18 years and 46 days old. Unlike Gomez, he didn't get a chance to play for the first team because he is a keeper.YTS1978 said:
Not really my point mate tbh. You're clearly very close to the family, but what's that go to do with my comment? They support Charlton, yes. But the lad jumped ship as soon as he got the chance, regardless of £500k compensation, him and his brother had the privilege of being trained up at Charlton for however many years? Doubt the comp touches the sides when it comes to academy costs, but others will know more. The only reason I knew who he was after that game was that I thought it weird for an oppo keeper to be celebrating like that after he'd not had any stick from the home fans. Then I was even more surprised when I found out who he was. Good luck to him. I hope he does well and has a successful career. However, if he ends up playing for England in 5yrs time (which he could very well do) I won't be crowing about him being a Charlton Boy and one of our own. That's for players who actually hung around for a bit and played a few games. Not controversial.Addick Addict said:James wasn't just with us from the age of 9. He and Harry didn't just come through our age group system. With their Dad they followed us home and away.
I also believe that James signed a contract so we did get a fee instead of having to go to a tribunal for a reported £400k-£500k. And there is a sell on fee mentioned as taking the total fee to £1m, making it the biggest fee ever paid for a keeper of his age at that time.
So, he was an 19 year old lad got caught up in the moment of celebrating a goal for the team he was playing for at that time. If one of our players refused to celebrate a goal against one of his ex-clubs would he be in the sin bin too? Equally, it's like saying to a former Kent bowler that he shouldn't celebrate a wicket because he used to play for the County he was facing. Let's take all the emotion out of sport shall we? Will those that bemoan about that celebration completely erase him from their minds or mercilessly complain if a paper or commentator doesn't mention that he came through our Academy? After all, as stated above, he isn't "one of our own"/
I would like to think that we are a bit more understanding than that especially as the whole family are Charlton regardless of who they currently work for now. Whatever people think. Harry and James are very much "two of our own". See below.
James on the left and Harry in the middle
The two together
Harry on the left with the arm raised.
Harry in the middle with the jumper round his waist
Edit. Nice pictures btw
We've never done that with our keepers. Ask Pope, Elliott, Randolph (all internationals) and AMB who were all at least 22 before they had played more than a handful of games. Beadle would have been sent out on loan to a National League or League 2 team at best for two or three years to gain experience. It is only because he went to a PL club that he was in such demand - he started at Crewe for three months in League 2, then Oxford in League 1 for half a season followed by Sheffield Wednesday for the second half of that season in the Championship and again there this season. By definition, had he stayed with us he wouldn't be playing in the Championship in the same way as Gomez wouldn't have been playing in the Champions League. He's still only just 20 but is miles ahead in term of experience then he would have been had he stayed with us. The reality is, though, that his longevity with us is no different to that of Gomez.
The likes of Gomez and Konsa did at least sign professional contracts with us, so we got more money. Indeed if Gomez ever leaves Liverpool for a big fee, it'll be a LOT more money.1 -
I don't get how someone who never played for us can be 'one of our own'Swisdom said:Good for him. He is extremely well thought of in the game.
Like it or not but he is and was a Charlton fan, he grew up here. It wasn't a matter of "jumping ship" at the first opportunity. We, as a club, were an absolute binfire at the time and he had a chance to step up the leagues to a club with much better coaching and much better prospects.
He could have just gone and that be the end of it (like Largie Ramazzani and Jeremy Sarmiento did) but he chose to make sure we got a record fee for a player who had never played for us - and realistically wouldn't for a few more years.
He's definitely one of our own and I will be excited if and when I see him pull on the full England goalie shirt
Yeah he supports the club but zero appearances0
