MATCH THREAD : Stevenage V Charlton Athletic : Saturday 28th September 2024 : KO 15:00

arny23394 said:

arny23394 said:

Cloudworm said:

Hallelujah... it's only a bloody 4-4-2!!!

It’s not going to be a 4-4-2

We have 5 defenders and 1 wide midfielder playing, jones doesn’t play a flat 4-4-2 and a 4-4-2 diamond makes even less sense that a flat 4-4-2 with the team we have picked.

Bailey said:

Trying to find the right combination. Not unhappy with the line up but would I think Docherty and Allan Campbell on the bench is maybe a little two similar, so for me perhaps Leaburn or Dixon but Jones see's his players on the training ground and would call their readiness better than me, lets hope it all gels. 

golfaddick said:

Garrymanilow said:

fenaddick said:

Garrymanilow said:

fenaddick said:

Slight change of shape then. Anderson and Coventry holding with TC as a 10. Have to feel for Taylor there 

If that is the shape then Anderson won't be holding. He'll be shuttling between the two midfielders and covering as much ground as possible. Anderson couldn't be a more different player to Taylor and that role couldn't be less suited to Taylor.

I’m seeing it as a double pivot a bit like
Liverpool play 

I have to admit I'm very biased against double pivots (so was Johann Cruyff!) as it is but I'm particularly against double pivots being used at League One level in teams where there's big gaps between the lines and transitional play is slower and less technical. Liverpool play a 433 and they do employ a high press like us, but they use their full backs extremely high with wingers ahead of them. They have two banks of width and leave only two defenders at home, with two extremely mobile deeper midfielders. All of the players in that middle three can play as 10s just as easily as they can play deeper and they all have a range of passing and technical ability to rotate if needed. The usual fears about the deeper midfielders blocking each other generally aren't there because Liverpool leave their wingers and their attacking midfielder so high that they always have an outball forward or wide to their advanced full back. Shape-wise they're more of a 2-4-1-3 when they're on the ball and we just can't do that. Put in a double pivot with Coventry and Taylor in our team and you'll have two very deep midfielders getting in each others' way and punting the ball up to either the one advanced wingback or the striker and seeing it come back while the third midfielder chases round after nothing all game. Maybe if we had incredibly mobile and dangerous holding midfielders it could work but Coventry and Taylor want to stand in the exact same spot and so the same job, it would not be a fun day out.

Anyone trying to justify the line up by saying Liverpool use a pivot or double pivot (wtf does that all mean) is losing the plot. 

We could play with 8 defenders if we had Erling Haarland up front ffs !!

ross1 said:

FT scores today:
Crawley 0-2 Bolton
Reading 2-1 Hudders

ross1 said:

People complaining about Docherty and Berry over the last few games, now NJ drops them, some wants them in. I am mistified. 

Oggy Red said:

ForeverAddickted said:

ross1 said:

FT scores today:
Crawley 0-2 Bolton
Reading 2-1 Hudders

Huddersfield are on a horrible run of form since beating Bolton.

Thats two chances they've had to get above us, they've wasted now

And Bolton starting to find their feet again, with 7 goals scored and 6 points from their past 2 games.

Rob said:

Similar lineup to the Cambridge game. Would have been nice to see Taylor in there as well but I liked how we played against Cambridge. I especially liked Potts at the back. But, let’s see how it goes.