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MATCH PREVIEW (ish): Charlton Athletic v Chelsea U21: BSMTrophy: Tues 29th October 2024: KO 19:00

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  • 'Some Scottish clubs' but there's only two that anyone is interested in, and where is the value in sending a full squad to Hibs away in December? The thing was invented by Ron Noades wasn't it?
    Noades was behind the Full Members/  Simod / ZDS whatever else it was Cup. It was brought in during the European ban in the '80s. That was for the top two divisions only. 
  • MrOneLung said:
    The Scottish prem clubs wouldn’t want to play in it 
    That's because they couldn't stand the embarrassment of losing to league two English teams. 
  • edited October 27
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    Because we are just way too good for this tournament.
    (In your dreams).
    Meanwhile in the real world  the fringe players and the promising youths will get a run out plus maybe some still recovering from injury.
    AMB, Mitchell Z, Edun, Small, Mbick, Ahadme, Taylor
  • In terms of the match against Chelsea, who has been playing Right-Back for the U21s of late.

    Wonder if we might give them a run out there, to protect REG
  • PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    Take out the prem U23's and it's a decent cup
    It's our only real chance of silverware and i'd love a day out at Wembley.

    The U23s do under value it, i think years ago the efl would invite non-league teams. I'd rather see Scottish teams involved.
    League one and Two from England plus some Scottish clubs would certainly add more interest than the present set up.
    Totally agree, add some Welsh teams in too and we might get another big gate like yesterday 😂
  • fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
    Winner receives 100k, runner up 50k, not too shabby for a very winnable competition compared to the FA Cup and League Cup. 
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
    Winner receives 100k, runner up 50k, not too shabby for a very winnable competition compared to the FA Cup and League Cup. 
    Why not keep the money that goes into the cup and equally distribute amongst L1 and L2 teams though? 
  • I heard this guy is doing the "watchalong" for this one.


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  • In terms of the match against Chelsea, who has been playing Right-Back for the U21s of late.

    Wonder if we might give them a run out there, to protect REG
    Not sure we will as there’s not a clear first choice. Hobden has played RWB and RCB in a 3-5-2, but we’ve also used Fullah there (more of a winger/attacking midfielder, has also played CM) and Rylah (a winger). On the streams I’ve seen this season I wouldn’t expect any of them to be serious options for the first team at RB/RWB.
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
    Winner receives 100k, runner up 50k, not too shabby for a very winnable competition compared to the FA Cup and League Cup. 
    But how many loss making games to get that far.
  • We did have a sell out at Hartlepool to be fair. Double edged sword, if we win the group we get a path through at home and have to stage the games, 2nd and off we possibly go to Reading or Stevenage again. Not sure what the SP is with players on loan from the Prem clubs in this anymore 
  • edited October 27
    Nothing wrong with a solely L1 and L2 cup, as it was. Look at the list of winners, they're mainly clubs of our size and history, many now higher up than us.
  • Yesterday on the big screen they were promoting Peterborough on 16 Nov as the upcoming fixture. Even the club seem to have forgotten this one!
  • edited October 28
    If Charlton don’t have the Southend tickets to be able to start selling them by tonight’s game then they should ask the FA for a bye to the next round; and they should insist that the ticket allocation for away fans is at least 15% of available capacity. 
  • fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
    Winner receives 100k, runner up 50k, not too shabby for a very winnable competition compared to the FA Cup and League Cup. 
    Why not keep the money that goes into the cup and equally distribute amongst L1 and L2 teams though? 
    The money all comes from the prem teams, if they’re removed then so is the money 
  • A good tournament to try out a few things. 
  • shirty5 said:
    5 players made their Charlton Athletic first team debuts in this competition and then went on to gain full international cap(s) for their respective countries 

    2 of those went onto to play in the Premier League as well

    The positives that this competition can have for a player starting his journey (Or getting a second go with the club) 
    Who are the 5?
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  • Really struggling to piece together a team for this one

    Maynard-Brewer
    Asiimwe A Mitchell Z.Mitchell Small
    Taylor 
    Anderson Kedwell
    A.Campbell
    Hylton MBick

    Maclorg, REG, Edwards, Docherty, T.Campbell, Leaburn, Dixon

    Probably got it completely wrong and most of them won't play
  • sam3110 said:
    Really struggling to piece together a team for this one

    Maynard-Brewer
    Asiimwe A Mitchell Z.Mitchell Small
    Taylor 
    Anderson Kedwell
    A.Campbell
    Hylton MBick

    Maclorg, REG, Edwards, Docherty, T.Campbell, Leaburn, Dixon

    Probably got it completely wrong and most of them won't play
    Anderson will be suspended 
  • sam3110 said:
    Really struggling to piece together a team for this one

    Maynard-Brewer
    Asiimwe A Mitchell Z.Mitchell Small
    Taylor 
    Anderson Kedwell
    A.Campbell
    Hylton MBick

    Maclorg, REG, Edwards, Docherty, T.Campbell, Leaburn, Dixon

    Probably got it completely wrong and most of them won't play
    Surely Edun gets a game?
  • Maynard-brewer 

    Asiimwe if back z Mitchell Potts small

    a Campbell Taylor edun

    dixon mbick rylah

    leaburn on the bench to get minutes plus a mixture of u-23’s and whoever else from Saturdays starting 11 
  • I'd like to see Dixon start and, if fit enough, play the whole game. Let's see how fast/good this kid is! 
    He'll be back on the Chelsea coach after the match and playing for their 11th team at the weekend, if he looks any good...
  • IdleHans said:
    Brownie12 said:
    I should imagine Chelsea will sell out - they won’t want to miss the opportunity to see Danny Hylton live in the flesh. 
    After seeing him yesterday, i'd have doubts about the live part

    He is a bit of a lump…...
  • shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Really struggling to piece together a team for this one

    Maynard-Brewer
    Asiimwe A Mitchell Z.Mitchell Small
    Taylor 
    Anderson Kedwell
    A.Campbell
    Hylton MBick

    Maclorg, REG, Edwards, Docherty, T.Campbell, Leaburn, Dixon

    Probably got it completely wrong and most of them won't play
    Anderson will be suspended 
    Edun in for him then. 

    Tbh I completely forgot about him
  • Is the game being streamed live on Charlton TV 
  • Is the game being streamed live on Charlton TV 
    No idea about that, but live on Sky
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