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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    What Zak hasn't been doing enough, is making it count when he IS in. I imagine openers have much more irregular scores than No 5s, as they'll get more jaffas with the new ball, but also go on the make daddy hundreds to compensate.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Chizz said:
    This might explain a small part of the thinking of Stokes and McCullum. There's certainly something to be said for the habit of winning. 

    Most Test wins as an opener this year 

    BM Duckett (ENG) 8  
    YBK Jaiswal (IND) 8
    Z Crawley (ENG) 7
    RG Sharma (IND) 7
    FDM Karunaratne (SL) 6
    DP Conway (NZ) 5
    T de Zorzi (SA) 5
    UT Khawaja (AUS) 5
    TWM Latham (NZ) 5
    AK Markram (SA) 5
    KNM Fernando (SL) 3
    P Nissanka (SL) 3
    Shadman Islam (BAN) 3
    SPD Smith (AUS) 3
    Abdullah Shafique (PAK) 2 
    A Balbirnie (IRE) 2
    KC Brathwaite (WI) 2
    DW Lawrence (ENG) 2
    PJ Moor (IRE) 2
    Saim Ayub (PAK) 2
    Zakir Hasan (BAN) 2
    T Chanderpaul (WI) 1
    M Louis (WI) 1
    Mahmudul Hasan Joy (BAN) 1
    NA McSweeney (AUS) 1
    OJ Pope (ENG) 1
    KL Rahul (IND) 1
    BA Stokes (ENG) 1
    DA Warner (AUS) 1 

    Looking at that list, it's easy to conclude that England's and India's selectors are making better decisions on opening batsmen than those of many other countries. 
    It's interesting to see that Crawley's seven wins as a Test opener within a calendar year (with power to add, fingers crossed) has only been bettered once, in the history of England's Test matches by a right hander. 

    Anyone care to hazard a guess as to who and when?  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    England win the toss and will field
  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,679
    killerandflash said:
    England win the toss and will field
    Fancy 3 nil now. Would be an incredible outcome if it happens 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Interesting that NZ have decided to play Santner as a replacement for Smith. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    edited December 2024
    Bashir might have preferred us to bowl last.

    Will Potts get the new ball? Yes
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    killerandflash said:
    Bashir might have preferred us to bowl last.

    Will Potts get the new ball? Yes
    We might
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,025
    Duckett drops a tough chance in the slips 
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Charlton shirt spotted. Next to a Leeds shirt.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    suzisausage said:
    Charlton shirt spotted. Next to a Leeds shirt.
    Two of my son's friends are sitting in Charlton shirts (one home and one away) with Ollie Robinson's dad (who is a Gooner)
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    I hear Brydon Carse has got Gary Numan's song Cars as his tune!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    93-0 at lunch.

    An unusually steady session by modern standards, but it's fair to say that the luck which England have had in the first 2 Tests has slightly deserted them .
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,025
    edited December 2024
    Atkinson gets Young caught for 42 (92). Good low catch from Brook. 105-1
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Young has to leave right now, after nicking Atkinson to slip
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Potts get Latham caught behind down the leg side for 63.

    142-2
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,065
    Bit of a collapse for NZ. Blundell just gone playing a wide ball straight to Bethell.
     231-7
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Despite the England Pace bowlers not getting an early wicket I love the heart of all 4 bowlers in this match.
    NZ have gone from 105/0 to 236/7.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited December 2024
    Stokes gets his 1st wicket after Brook catches Henry after throwing the ball up in the air after his momentum took him over the boundary edge; Harry manages to jump back on field to complete the catch.

    272/8 but now Southee and Santner have gone on the attack and Stokes concedes 17 in an over with Tim Southee hitting two sixes.

    TS now on 98 sixes in his career and looking for the ton in his final test match. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Southee c Carse b Atkinson 23.

    303/9
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    315/9 at Stumps.

    The impressive Santner hits a 6 off the last ball of the day to reach his 50.

    NZ won the 1st session 
    England won the 2nd session 
    England won the 3rd session but some useful late runs for the Kiwis.

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  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    soapboxsam said:
    Despite the England Pace bowlers not getting an early wicket I love the heart of all 4 bowlers in this match.
    NZ have gone from 105/0 to 236/7.
    Potts is gold .  Not the most talented but he’s put on some pace and bowls all day .  
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    England fail once again to mop up the tail. 236/7 should mean getting a side out for less than 300 & more like 260 or 270.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Great recovery from England given where NZ were at one point and great to see Stokes bowling the most overs of our bowlers (23).

    One thing that does confuse me is that we had 82 overs of seam and not a single over of spin. The ball might not turn but at the very least one might have expected to see Bashir bowl an over (or maybe even two) especially shortly before lunch especially with NZ 93-0. What's worst case scenario? That he goes for a dozen runs? Should that happen, that would mean that the NZ batters are trying to take him on so they might get out doing so.

    Presumably NZ are playing two spinners for a reason, albeit that Santner will be more effective in the latter stages of this Test but surely it was worth chucking Bashir the ball at one stage or other? Not bowling Bashir also sends a bit of a message to him that Stokes doesn't trust him and I'm sure Warne or Murali would have bowled on the first day of a Test. Bashir certainly isn't of that calibre, yet anyway, but how is he going to learn how to bowl in non-spin conditions if he doesn't get to bowl in those very conditions in what is a "dead rubber"? This is, after all, the very stage where he is going to have to learn how to do just that as he's unlikely to be able to do so on the county circuit.     
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    golfaddick said:
    England fail once again to mop up the tail. 236/7 should mean getting a side out for less than 300 & more like 260 or 270.
    Once again? I didn’t realise the current England team had a problem with this… just last Test, Atkinson got himself a hat-trick by cleaning up the tail?

  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Callumcafc said:
    golfaddick said:
    England fail once again to mop up the tail. 236/7 should mean getting a side out for less than 300 & more like 260 or 270.
    Once again? I didn’t realise the current England team had a problem with this… just last Test, Atkinson got himself a hat-trick by cleaning up the tail?

    It's Kent who can't mop the tail up.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    LenGlover said:
    Callumcafc said:
    golfaddick said:
    England fail once again to mop up the tail. 236/7 should mean getting a side out for less than 300 & more like 260 or 270.
    Once again? I didn’t realise the current England team had a problem with this… just last Test, Atkinson got himself a hat-trick by cleaning up the tail?

    It's Kent who can't mop the tail up.
    To be fair, Kent can't mop up the top or middle order either
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    Wtf is going on this morning ???
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    It all looks a bit easy for NZ, Santner is able to milk the strike without any trouble 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    Finally the 10th wicket falls.

    About 70-80 more than they should have had. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Massive innings for Zak. Placid pitch, so no demons to worry over.

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