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January Transfer Window (rumours + actuals)
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They will lose twice that or more in the Championshipsupaclive said:
It is not sustainable to lose £8-10m in this division once the billionaires get bored of us.BalladMan said:I don't get this £8-10m loss in League One as a justification to spend.
According to this article (albeit 2 years old) "The average pre-tax deficit for the 19 clubs has so far been a smidgen over £20million" (not all accounts were submitted at the time). There is every chance that getting promoted would = greater costs (wages to be competitive). https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4457610/2023/04/28/championship-finances-broken/
Hence I don't get the argument that you spend money now to save money next year
To be clear, I absolutely want us to get promoted and out of this shit league, but should be done sustainably and with an eye for future squad growth (for which we did pretty well last Jan with Ramsey and Small joining)
They didn't buy us to keep us in this division.. The goal is to get us to top half Championship. They may potentially do this by adding some quality in this window - next season there is only one thing certain if we stay in League 1 - we will lose another £8-10m.1 -
If Dale is a winger who can play both sides and “do a job” at wing back the he fits the profile of what we need - someone who can sit on the bench, probably instead of Kanu, and be option to change to up if TC or Small are having an off day or reduce the number of minutes they have to play. More proven at this level than punt on a premier league youngster.4
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If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal0 -
As long as he can sit on the bench for 90 minutes..he'll do..🙄SteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal2 -
A medical isn’t to check if a player is injured. It’s weighing up the risks of signing the player for that length of contract, so more about his injury history and recurring injuries etc. You can technically “pass” a medical with a broken legSteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal9 -
The Medical isnt the be all and end all of a transfer Clubs probably do Medicals as well to make sure that there arent other underlying problems they'd need to be aware of and wouldnt know about without doing one. I mean if Dale currently has a minor Hamstring injury, its probably something the buying / loaning club would decide to take the risk on, thinking that there is chance, that once the player is over that injury they'll be fine - Others wont want to take the risk at allSteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal1 -
Palace turning down £70-mill for a defender yet still playing in that shithole stadium in that shitpit town.12
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Remember Dale being a right pain in the arris whenever we came up against him.
From memory ,technically very good, which is what we need.1 -
Don’t think it’s that hard to pass one with usSteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal6 -
Just chatting to a mate of mine who supports Oxford and says Dale works hard, runs all game and started out as a full back. Sounds very much like a Jones type player.Henry Irving said:From memory Dale always looked a threat going forward for Crewe and Oxford.
Don't know enough about his work rate/defending to know if he fits in a Jones side.
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Any chance of this being a perm?0
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It's Charlton mateSteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal
A one legged man could pass here.7 -
I was going for a short back and sides to be honest.mendonca said:Any chance of this being a perm?
Always willing to try new things though.9 -
Aneke is the new club doctor.SteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal20 -
They must have forgot to do one for Chucks twice!!NabySarr said:
A medical isn’t to check if a player is injured. It’s weighing up the risks of signing the player for that length of contract, so more about his injury history and recurring injuries etc. You can technically “pass” a medical with a broken legSteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal4 -
But as I said, esteemed journalists think we will lose MORE in the championship (and this was 2 years ago, so probably got worse the way football is going). Whilst the promised land of the premier league is the overarching goal I assume, I don't get the argument that getting out of this league will either reduce costs or equal profit. Championship is equally a cesspit of financial irregularity.supaclive said:
It is not sustainable to lose £8-10m in this division once the billionaires get bored of us.BalladMan said:I don't get this £8-10m loss in League One as a justification to spend.
According to this article (albeit 2 years old) "The average pre-tax deficit for the 19 clubs has so far been a smidgen over £20million" (not all accounts were submitted at the time). There is every chance that getting promoted would = greater costs (wages to be competitive). https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4457610/2023/04/28/championship-finances-broken/
Hence I don't get the argument that you spend money now to save money next year
To be clear, I absolutely want us to get promoted and out of this shit league, but should be done sustainably and with an eye for future squad growth (for which we did pretty well last Jan with Ramsey and Small joining)
They didn't buy us to keep us in this division.. The goal is to get us to top half Championship. They may potentially do this by adding some quality in this window - next season there is only one thing certain if we stay in League 1 - we will lose another £8-10m.3 -
If and when our owners decide to sell the club it will be worth considerably more in the championship than it is in league one.BalladMan said:
But as I said, esteemed journalists think we will lose MORE in the championship (and this was 2 years ago, so probably got worse the way football is going). Whilst the promised land of the premier league is the overarching goal I assume, I don't get the argument that getting out of this league will either reduce costs or equal profit. Championship is equally a cesspit of financial irregularity.supaclive said:
It is not sustainable to lose £8-10m in this division once the billionaires get bored of us.BalladMan said:I don't get this £8-10m loss in League One as a justification to spend.
According to this article (albeit 2 years old) "The average pre-tax deficit for the 19 clubs has so far been a smidgen over £20million" (not all accounts were submitted at the time). There is every chance that getting promoted would = greater costs (wages to be competitive). https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4457610/2023/04/28/championship-finances-broken/
Hence I don't get the argument that you spend money now to save money next year
To be clear, I absolutely want us to get promoted and out of this shit league, but should be done sustainably and with an eye for future squad growth (for which we did pretty well last Jan with Ramsey and Small joining)
They didn't buy us to keep us in this division.. The goal is to get us to top half Championship. They may potentially do this by adding some quality in this window - next season there is only one thing certain if we stay in League 1 - we will lose another £8-10m.10 -
I was expecting more of a mullet look, because apparently they are now fashionable...FishCostaFortune said:
I was going for a short back and sides to be honest.mendonca said:Any chance of this being a perm?
Always willing to try new things though.0 -
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OK, I'll buy that...NabySarr said:
A medical isn’t to check if a player is injured. It’s weighing up the risks of signing the player for that length of contract, so more about his injury history and recurring injuries etc. You can technically “pass” a medical with a broken legSteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal
But if it's only a loan, why sign someone to put on OUR medical bill, who may never play a game (!), for him to go back, fit and firing for Oxford at the end if the season?
Are we football's new, improved NHS?
If it's true, Oxford have seen us coming, pulled our pants down, and didn't even have the decency to give us a reach around...1 -
He's injured until mid-February, which is at most two weeks away. Calm down.SteveACS said:
OK, I'll buy that...NabySarr said:
A medical isn’t to check if a player is injured. It’s weighing up the risks of signing the player for that length of contract, so more about his injury history and recurring injuries etc. You can technically “pass” a medical with a broken legSteveACS said:
If he's injured until mid- February, how would he pass a medical?Valianterith said:Just been informed that Owen Dale is a done deal
But if it's only a loan, why sign someone to put on OUR medical bill, who may never play a game (!), for him to go back, fit and firing for Oxford at the end if the season?
Are we football's new, improved NHS?
If it's true, Oxford have seen us coming, pulled our pants down, and didn't even have the decency to give us a reach around...
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Luton have signed a Norwegian striker, so who does that free up for us?1
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I wouldn't be shocked if Pelly Mpanzu is heading our way.
Not ITK by the way.4 -
Luton went to Wycombe and said "which Scandinavian striker are you buying as a Kone replacement?" and went and bought directly from Norway instead.Scoham said:Luton have signed a Norwegian striker, so who does that free up for us?4 -
how do we know that Owen Dale is actually still injured?0
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Looks like a confirmed deal to meLargeAddick said:how do we know that Owen Dale is actually still injured?
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Because we’re rumoured to be signing him.LargeAddick said:how do we know that Owen Dale is actually still injured?23
