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STATBANK: CHARLTON 3-0 EXETER

lancashire lad
lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
edited February 24 in General Charlton
thanks to the 93 markers







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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    There's something not right with Exeter's cards 9 yellows and 3 reds (don't know about our 3 yellows).
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,690
    I thought Anderson's yellow card was rescinded when the ref realised he was wrong

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    rananegra said:
    I thought Anderson's yellow card was rescinded when the ref realised he was wrong


  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    thanks CE stats amended
    Rananega - yes but according to the BBC, who usually get their stats from the Press Association, Anderson received a yellow in the 69th minute - so it stays
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    Mannion assist?! Their defender's headed it to TC surely 
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    Leuth said:
    Mannion assist?! Their defender's headed it to TC surely 
    sorry Leuth but I am a little lax when it comes to "assists", as you should know, my reasoning is Mannion kicked it up field it went off a defender's head to TC and a goal
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,038
    Leuth said:
    Mannion assist?! Their defender's headed it to TC surely 
    sorry Leuth but I am a little lax when it comes to "assists", as you should know, my reasoning is Mannion kicked it up field it went off a defender's head to TC and a goal
    Unfortunately that would mean there’s no assist for that goal. Assist is the final pass (or touch of the ball) before the goalscorer receives the ball. In the case that the final touch before the goalscorer receives the ball comes from an opposition player there’s no assist. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    I know you're a bit nicer than official records when it comes to assists but this wasn't a deflection, this was a full on defensive header imo... 
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    se9addick said:
    Leuth said:
    Mannion assist?! Their defender's headed it to TC surely 
    sorry Leuth but I am a little lax when it comes to "assists", as you should know, my reasoning is Mannion kicked it up field it went off a defender's head to TC and a goal
    Unfortunately that would mean there’s no assist for that goal. Assist is the final pass (or touch of the ball) before the goalscorer receives the ball. In the case that the final touch before the goalscorer receives the ball comes from an opposition player there’s no assist. 
    of course I know that, but this is MY way of doing it as I have done for a number of years and will continue until someone takes this over - any offers?
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    Leuth said:
    I know you're a bit nicer than official records when it comes to assists but this wasn't a deflection, this was a full on defensive header imo... 
    same to you as above, why don't you take it over, you are always quick to comment on my efforts?
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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,006
    Leuth said:
    I know you're a bit nicer than official records when it comes to assists but this wasn't a deflection, this was a full on defensive header imo... 
    same to you as above, why don't you take it over, you are always quick to comment on my efforts?
    Carry on as you are mate, no problem 
  • I do feel a bit sorry for our goalkeepers. They always get crappy scores when they have very little to do.

    A bit like Amazon evaluations that give a product one star because the independent delivery service was crap!
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Ramsay was great as always but feel that’s harsh on Karoy. Deserved MOTM imo.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    Ramsay was great as always but feel that’s harsh on Karoy. Deserved MOTM imo.
    If Karoy had scored that golden chance he would have got it.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,038
    se9addick said:
    Leuth said:
    Mannion assist?! Their defender's headed it to TC surely 
    sorry Leuth but I am a little lax when it comes to "assists", as you should know, my reasoning is Mannion kicked it up field it went off a defender's head to TC and a goal
    Unfortunately that would mean there’s no assist for that goal. Assist is the final pass (or touch of the ball) before the goalscorer receives the ball. In the case that the final touch before the goalscorer receives the ball comes from an opposition player there’s no assist. 
    of course I know that, but this is MY way of doing it as I have done for a number of years and will continue until someone takes this over - any offers?
    Wow, sorry LL. Blimey, no offence intended. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    What is very interesting is the number of assists TC has here (7) compared to his “official” assists number (1).

    Demonstrates just how dangerous of a player he is - even if it’s not showing on the stats sheet week in week out.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    What is very interesting is the number of assists TC has here (7) compared to his “official” assists number (1).

    Demonstrates just how dangerous of a player he is - even if it’s not showing on the stats sheet week in week out.
    well said, that's why I am lax with assists as I think in many situations it gives a better reflection of the players.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Leuth said:
    Mannion assist?! Their defender's headed it to TC surely 
    sorry Leuth but I am a little lax when it comes to "assists", as you should know, my reasoning is Mannion kicked it up field it went off a defender's head to TC and a goal
    Unfortunately that would mean there’s no assist for that goal. Assist is the final pass (or touch of the ball) before the goalscorer receives the ball. In the case that the final touch before the goalscorer receives the ball comes from an opposition player there’s no assist. 
    of course I know that, but this is MY way of doing it as I have done for a number of years and will continue until someone takes this over - any offers?
    Wow, sorry LL. Blimey, no offence intended. 
    no problem,  I was a bit moody this afternoon - my apologies to one and all
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    I like both the "official" assist stats, and the "LL" assist stats  :)
  • Think you have a typo, Conor Coventry showing as 2 minutes played? 
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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Carry on LL, I know when I have mentioned something wrong with your figures, you have always thanked me and altered your figures.
    No one can be perfect, but you come very close and as someone who rarely see the game, I find your stats most interesting. Thank you
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    Think you have a typo, Conor Coventry showing as 2 minutes played? 
    thanks I have made the correction
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Leuth said:
    Mannion assist?! Their defender's headed it to TC surely 
    sorry Leuth but I am a little lax when it comes to "assists", as you should know, my reasoning is Mannion kicked it up field it went off a defender's head to TC and a goal
    Unfortunately that would mean there’s no assist for that goal. Assist is the final pass (or touch of the ball) before the goalscorer receives the ball. In the case that the final touch before the goalscorer receives the ball comes from an opposition player there’s no assist. 
    of course I know that, but this is MY way of doing it as I have done for a number of years and will continue until someone takes this over - any offers?
    Wow, sorry LL. Blimey, no offence intended. 
    no problem,  I was a bit moody this afternoon - my apologies to one and all
    You're allowed to be moody.
    Hope you're doing ok.
  • Not sure 12470 away fans is right too...
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,784
    I like both the "official" assist stats, and the "LL" assist stats  :)
    But which is better? There’s only one way to find out…

  • Come and ‘ave a go if ya think yer ‘ard enough…😉
  • This has become an important section on the forum and one I enjoy reading. It’s hugely appreciated. Keep doing what you are doing  👏
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    Not sure 12470 away fans is right too...
    thanks - 0 removed
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    Yes. Churlish of me to quibble when I appreciate this work so much. Let's let Will Mannion have his moment #keepersunion
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,027
    I'm quite happy with Lancs' methodology and am grateful to the effort he puts in. I always think the 'assist' is a bit of a funny stat anyway though. As I understand it, it came about simply as a way of recognising unselfish forwards who would make a pass rather than out-and-out greedy strikers who wouldn't, whereas it seems we often want to use it to describe something else, something rather more creative - perhaps what used to be called 'who made the goal' before 'the assist' became en vogue. In this sense, the twin assumptions that only one person assists and that that person is always the last person to play the ball are highly misleading. Very often the key action in making a goal happens before the final pass, but football's just too wonderful and messy to have any meaningful stat that takes account of all the possible permutations.