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no idea - i think beer prices have become ridiculous in many places but in comparison, i don't think they are that abs at the valley - try dubai airport £14 for a small bottle of shit lagershine166 said:DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.
Why the excess charges in Bartrams then ? which 15 years ago was cracking little sports bar but now looks like a hospital waiting room.0 -
People should give us a try. Charlton fan owned business 😉fenlandaddick said:Seven odd quid for a pint of beer is shocking.In any establishment. No wonder pubs are closing. Can't blame the club, Blightly is too PriceyDefo hit Larry's cocktails sound like a bargain0 -
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line9 -
I think last orders are at 18.45 and they want you out by 19.00Orpington34 said:I expect it’s mentioned somewhere but could somebody let me know what time it closes after Saturday home games?1 -
My issue is that whilst beer prices have largely "frozen" in the budgets or gone up very little, in he Fans Bar it has gone up by about 80p in 2 years and I have paid 3 different prices for a bottle of Peroni this season alone (including the £5 offer). I have no faith in going to the bar at Charlton and knowing what the price of a pint of Peroni each time I have gone in there. I missed 4 home games due to ill health. I would like to go in there with the knowledge of knowing what price i am expecting to pay. It is £7.50 at the start of the season then leave it be at that price for example. This season I seemed to have paid £7.20 and £.40 and £5 for a pint. That is a lot of money for a pint in a League 1 football club in South London. Added to that the service is slow and last week the toilets had overflowed. It is the overall experience that matters as a package. I am not going to a Premier League Club, and paying Premier prices. And then you have to drink your drinks up quickly as they kick you out by 7pm !!0
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Do many people stay that long? It's not the sort of place most people would want to have a "sessions" in.Rudders22 said:My issue is that whilst beer prices have largely "frozen" in the budgets or gone up very little, in he Fans Bar it has gone up by about 80p in 2 years and I have paid 3 different prices for a bottle of Peroni this season alone (including the £5 offer). I have no faith in going to the bar at Charlton and knowing what the price of a pint of Peroni each time I have gone in there. I missed 4 home games due to ill health. I would like to go in there with the knowledge of knowing what price i am expecting to pay. It is £7.50 at the start of the season then leave it be at that price for example. This season I seemed to have paid £7.20 and £.40 and £5 for a pint. That is a lot of money for a pint in a League 1 football club in South London. Added to that the service is slow and last week the toilets had overflowed. It is the overall experience that matters as a package. I am not going to a Premier League Club, and paying Premier prices. And then you have to drink your drinks up quickly as they kick you out by 7pm !!
So realistically most of the trade would be between 1.30/2 and 3 before a game, and then between 5 and 6 after a game.0 -
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line1 -
Pathetic trolling.Radostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line6 -
A slightly different question. Until recently the beer/food I buy in the Covered End, and also the Fans Bar, used to show on my Credit Card statement as "Gather and Gather". It now shows "Charlton Athletic Retail". Has the club taken this service back in house ?0
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Yes we used to have a session in there ( till we got fed up with the shoddy service and crazy prices) but was awkward as it was card only as we always do a whip. So in the end we had to give someone our share and they would pay by card every round.killerandflash said:
Do many people stay that long? It's not the sort of place most people would want to have a "sessions" in.Rudders22 said:My issue is that whilst beer prices have largely "frozen" in the budgets or gone up very little, in he Fans Bar it has gone up by about 80p in 2 years and I have paid 3 different prices for a bottle of Peroni this season alone (including the £5 offer). I have no faith in going to the bar at Charlton and knowing what the price of a pint of Peroni each time I have gone in there. I missed 4 home games due to ill health. I would like to go in there with the knowledge of knowing what price i am expecting to pay. It is £7.50 at the start of the season then leave it be at that price for example. This season I seemed to have paid £7.20 and £.40 and £5 for a pint. That is a lot of money for a pint in a League 1 football club in South London. Added to that the service is slow and last week the toilets had overflowed. It is the overall experience that matters as a package. I am not going to a Premier League Club, and paying Premier prices. And then you have to drink your drinks up quickly as they kick you out by 7pm !!
So realistically most of the trade would be between 1.30/2 and 3 before a game, and then between 5 and 6 after a game.
Not rocket science I know but bloody inconvenient0 - Sponsored links:
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Radostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line
On my way down to Salvador and having an overnight stop on the way, I paid £10 in here, nice place though.
The boat doubled up as an Uber.3 -
It really isnt trolling ?Covered End said:
Pathetic trolling.Radostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line0 -
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Them bars are always empty, happy hour or not.1
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I clear them out mate....Covered End said:Them bars are always empty, happy hour or not.
Cheap prices but high end gaffs.
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Yeah that’s why we paid 800k for house up for 750kRadostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line
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Yes but most people don't have 50K rattling around.MrOneLung said:
Yeah that’s why we paid 800k for house up for 750kRadostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line
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They might do if they stop spending £1.50 extra on every single purchase they make.Radostanradical said:
Yes but most people don't have 50K rattling around.MrOneLung said:
Yeah that’s why we paid 800k for house up for 750kRadostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line
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You're right if they bought 33,333 pints some where £1.50 cheaper they would save £50,000shine166 said:
They might do if they stop spending £1.50 extra on every single purchase they make.Radostanradical said:
Yes but most people don't have 50K rattling around.MrOneLung said:
Yeah that’s why we paid 800k for house up for 750kRadostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line
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Your use of a calculator is much better than your ability to read I see.Radostanradical said:
You're right if they bought 33,333 pints some where £1.50 cheaper they would save £50,000shine166 said:
They might do if they stop spending £1.50 extra on every single purchase they make.Radostanradical said:
Yes but most people don't have 50K rattling around.MrOneLung said:
Yeah that’s why we paid 800k for house up for 750kRadostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line
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That'd be me then.Radostanradical said:
You're right if they bought 33,333 pints some where £1.50 cheaper they would save £50,000shine166 said:
They might do if they stop spending £1.50 extra on every single purchase they make.Radostanradical said:
Yes but most people don't have 50K rattling around.MrOneLung said:
Yeah that’s why we paid 800k for house up for 750kRadostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line
would have to buy 15 houses before lost the price of just one house …1 -
Its literally dividing 50 by 1.5 then multiply by 1000, no one should be using a calculator for that (provided your education wasn't free or non-grammar).shine166 said:
Your use of a calculator is much better than your ability to read I see.Radostanradical said:
You're right if they bought 33,333 pints some where £1.50 cheaper they would save £50,000shine166 said:
They might do if they stop spending £1.50 extra on every single purchase they make.Radostanradical said:
Yes but most people don't have 50K rattling around.MrOneLung said:
Yeah that’s why we paid 800k for house up for 750kRadostanradical said:
Even then its only £2 more expensive which is literally only a couple of quid more, at which you would need to drink 4 pints to miss out on a pint you could have had at Bromley. Obviously I get your point there has to be a cut off but dealing with the reality of the situation it is only £1.40 moreAFKABartram said:
on that basis, we might as well make it £8, it’s only another 60pRadostanradical said:
Again you mentioned Bromley a pint at Bromley is £6, our most expensive beer is £1.40 more. Is that extra £1.40 such a hardship,valleynick66 said:
It’s not a strong factor. It’s a nice view but not all can sit at the window after all. Moreover wasn’t if true that when there was such a membership must no one used it.DOUCHER said:
What if you factor in that there is no membership fee which would be the norm for drinking in the ground in an area that overlooks the pitch ?valleynick66 said:
Good grief why are you so determined to defend the stadium bars when many on here complain about them regularly ?Radostanradical said:
It's not my opinion ?! the bar is busy and has high footfall every home match. Businesses arent in the business of losing money. I think your mistaking "successful" ( PS single parenthesis or brackets, are only used for quotes within a quote).valleynick66 said:
I think you are in a minority if you consider it 'successful'.Radostanradical said:
The footprint has nothing to do with it, its an anomaly in terms of the cost of a pint. Nowhere else will you be able to get a pint the price of a spoons (generally speaking), you would need to drink at home to beat their prices. Hence why I am saying its unfair to compare a spoons to a cost on the fans bar. It would be me like saying a holiday to Tenerife is incredibly over priced compared a weekend in Margate instead of comparing it to other holidays in Tenerife. Yes spoons is incredibly cheaper because of their business model but that has nothing to do with the fans bar.valleynick66 said:
Not an anomaly in my book given their footprint. Because if it’s a pint you want you can go there before the game.Radostanradical said:
yes but Wetherspoons are an anomaly, they are known for particularly low prices so thats not a fair comparison, in the same way if I suggested central Stockholm or the O2 Arena where a beer can be upwards of £10 wouldn't be a fair comparison.valleynick66 said:
Simply YES. 🙂Radostanradical said:Is £7.40 really that expensive for a pint ? I get its slightly more expensive than a normal pub but its not ludicrously expensive.
In the context of high ticket prices and most families not having the luxury of large amounts of surplus cash for ‘entertainment’ it all detracts from attendances increasing anytime soon.Compare that price to say a Wetherspoon and it looks very high.
In reality its about about £1.50-£2 more expensive than a normal pub (non-spoons), it has a captive market hence why they raise prices bit but truthfully no one is forcing people to buy the pint and if it was so expensive people wouldn't buy it and the club would be forced to reduce the price.They have a business model
Which works. The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could.But it’s also a price inflation you see on non alcoholic stuff too. It’s all overpriced and gives the impression of taking punters for mugs.If you come as the stereotype family of parents and kids you’d be mad not to bring your own refreshments.
The fans bar also has a much higher number of overheads compared to Spoons. The price isnt just plucked from the air. It's not taking the "punters" for mugs as they can quite literally as you said (The price in venue doesn’t work to get anywhere near the volume of sales it could) not buy beer from there ? The fact that it still operates at those prices means it must be successful otherwise they would drop the price of shut the bar ?
It could and should do better, and the price point is a key factor, just as it is for match day ticket prices.
Know your competition is the advice they miss.
What do you define as better ? lowering the prices would need to increase the footfall by a large number of fans, more fans equals more servers, more security more energy consumption.
What competition ? they literally have none hence why they can charge more.
I just refute your assertion the price of £7.40 is not expensive (in the context of geographic location and the fact it’s a 3rd division football match).Do you suppose the price is the same (comparable?) at say Welling or Bromley for example in their bars and notably more expensive than their local pubs?
PS being an arse about the use of single quotation marks does nothing to enhance your argument either.It’s simple. The drinks are expensive. That is the bottom line
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@LarrysMobileBar are you in the fans bar today? Been meaning to give you a try!0
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I only just saw this! I was! Did you see us?Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:@LarrysMobileBar are you in the fans bar today? Been meaning to give you a try!0 -
Spaten! Is that the name of the beer or something the barman has just done in your bottle? 🤷🏻♂️😉ElfsborgAddick said:5 -
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Spaten! Is that the name of the beer or something the barman has just done in your bottle? 🤷🏻♂️😉ElfsborgAddick said:This and Bohemia are decent enough lagers, a shame that they are so weak you can see through the glass!A 600ml bottle of this normally works out at £2 so you cannot have it all ways.1 -
I missed out the fans bar in the end, but planning to go tomorrow - see you there!LarrysMobileBar said:
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