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Under 18's updates - 24/25 season (from p71)

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  • fenaddick said:
    Under 17's but good news. I know Reid has been playing up at least one age group this season


    Our U17s are through to the Premier League Cup final! Ellis McMillan and Reuben Reid were both on the scoresheet in a 2-1 victory over Manchester United at Sparrows Lane this afternoon!
    https://x.com/CharltonAcademy/status/1899479500196331663
    Just saw that on X, brilliant result. Hopefully there will be a stream of the final.

    U17s only exist for that cup as far as I know, league games and the FA Youth Cup are u18s which includes u17s and u18s (which is why people refer to 1st and 2nd year u18s).
  • By coincidence I heard only this morning on five live that United again have incrediably strong youth teams.

    And yet we beat them!

    Is the final two legs, neutral ground or toss of a coin to decide?
  • fenaddick said:
    Under 17's but good news. I know Reid has been playing up at least one age group this season


    Our U17s are through to the Premier League Cup final! Ellis McMillan and Reuben Reid were both on the scoresheet in a 2-1 victory over Manchester United at Sparrows Lane this afternoon!
    https://x.com/CharltonAcademy/status/1899479500196331663
    Looks like we'll play Spurs in the Final
  • WOW ! Fantastic news ! 

    Well done, even younger Young Guns ! 
  • It's amazing for the club to have achieved this, just hope the best ones hang around and sign a contract..
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  • edited 1:27PM
    It's amazing for the club to have achieved this, just hope the best ones hang around and sign a contract..
    Don't worry Im sure Spurs wont forget to bring lots of spare contracts with them.....
  • Is Reid the main one to watch out for from this U17 side? Seems to have quite the scoring record. 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Is Reid the main one to watch out for from this U17 side? Seems to have quite the scoring record. 
    One of them, along with Emmanuel Sol-Loza who signed pro last year and has also made u21 cameos.

    Not seen them yet but Ellis McMillan has scored double figures and Bradley Tagoe is said to be promising too.

    Goals scored by player are here:

    http://youthhawk.co.uk/w/index.php/Charlton_Athletic_Under-18s#section_2
  • I have no idea how the rules work, or who is in charge, but it seems quite ridiculous to me that we were not made a category 1 academy years ago.
    We succeed in matches and produce a strong stream of good footballers.
    Is it because we’re unfashionable in some way?
    The Crystal Palace academy doesn’t match up to the success of ours over the years.
  • seth plum said:
    I have no idea how the rules work, or who is in charge, but it seems quite ridiculous to me that we were not made a category 1 academy years ago.
    We succeed in matches and produce a strong stream of good footballers.
    Is it because we’re unfashionable in some way?
    The Crystal Palace academy doesn’t match up to the success of ours over the years.
    The Academy premises/facilities failed the audit for Category 1 status.
  • Crusty54 said:
    seth plum said:
    I have no idea how the rules work, or who is in charge, but it seems quite ridiculous to me that we were not made a category 1 academy years ago.
    We succeed in matches and produce a strong stream of good footballers.
    Is it because we’re unfashionable in some way?
    The Crystal Palace academy doesn’t match up to the success of ours over the years.
    The Academy premises/facilities failed the audit for Category 1 status.
    I would love to read the audit report.
    It might add up to a hand dryer not working for all I know.
  • seth plum said:
    I have no idea how the rules work, or who is in charge, but it seems quite ridiculous to me that we were not made a category 1 academy years ago.
    We succeed in matches and produce a strong stream of good footballers.
    Is it because we’re unfashionable in some way?
    The Crystal Palace academy doesn’t match up to the success of ours over the years.
    Sorry to be a conspiracy theorist, but...

    Is it in the interest of Cat 1 clubs to allow us to join their club, when under the hated EPPP they can pick off our best players for a pittance, rather than a proper transfer fee?

    Why do you think Brentford ditched their academy?
  • Swisdom said:
    seth plum said:
    I have no idea how the rules work, or who is in charge, but it seems quite ridiculous to me that we were not made a category 1 academy years ago.
    We succeed in matches and produce a strong stream of good footballers.
    Is it because we’re unfashionable in some way?
    The Crystal Palace academy doesn’t match up to the success of ours over the years.
    We spent a lot of money aiming for Cat 1 and my company did LOADS of work on it - including all the ground works, installation and sourcing the units at the training ground as well as their transport from Reading to Sparrow's Lane.  It was a lot of work and will hopefully be worth it in years to come.

    The biggest stumbling block was our level - no 3rd tier team has been awarded Cat 1 status (some may have had it before dropping in but no team in the 3rd tier had ever achieved it and the feeling at the club was the EFL didn't want to set a precedent.
    Other issues like the numbers of coaches could have been rectified but were cited as part of the reason

    It seems it was a largely political decision from the EFL because the quality of players we consistently produce is outstanding
    The decision makers therefore are effing bastards.
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  • edited 10:57AM
    Swisdom said:
    seth plum said:
    I have no idea how the rules work, or who is in charge, but it seems quite ridiculous to me that we were not made a category 1 academy years ago.
    We succeed in matches and produce a strong stream of good footballers.
    Is it because we’re unfashionable in some way?
    The Crystal Palace academy doesn’t match up to the success of ours over the years.
    We spent a lot of money aiming for Cat 1 and my company did LOADS of work on it - including all the ground works, installation and sourcing the units at the training ground as well as their transport from Reading to Sparrow's Lane.  It was a lot of work and will hopefully be worth it in years to come.

    The biggest stumbling block was our level - no 3rd tier team has been awarded Cat 1 status (some may have had it before dropping in but no team in the 3rd tier had ever achieved it and the feeling at the club was the EFL didn't want to set a precedent.
    Other issues like the numbers of coaches could have been rectified but were cited as part of the reason

    It seems it was a largely political decision from the EFL because the quality of players we consistently produce is outstanding
    Good to see that the powers in Football are more worried about how things "look" than benefiting the actual youngsters.

    Sorry but that verges on the scandalous
  • Swisdom said:
    seth plum said:
    I have no idea how the rules work, or who is in charge, but it seems quite ridiculous to me that we were not made a category 1 academy years ago.
    We succeed in matches and produce a strong stream of good footballers.
    Is it because we’re unfashionable in some way?
    The Crystal Palace academy doesn’t match up to the success of ours over the years.
    We spent a lot of money aiming for Cat 1 and my company did LOADS of work on it - including all the ground works, installation and sourcing the units at the training ground as well as their transport from Reading to Sparrow's Lane.  It was a lot of work and will hopefully be worth it in years to come.

    The biggest stumbling block was our level - no 3rd tier team has been awarded Cat 1 status (some may have had it before dropping in but no team in the 3rd tier had ever achieved it and the feeling at the club was the EFL didn't want to set a precedent.
    Other issues like the numbers of coaches could have been rectified but were cited as part of the reason

    It seems it was a largely political decision from the EFL because the quality of players we consistently produce is outstanding
    Good to see that the powers in Football are more worried about how things "look" than benefiting the actual youngsters.

    Sorry but that verges on the scandalous
    It wasn't officially stated as such but that was the feeling in-house - that came from Ged and Thomas as well as a few others so was the general perception

    I expect we will try again if we get promoted
  • We will get it when we get back into the Championship. We are outperforming many of the Cat 1 academies, but there is pressure to reduce the number of them and all the time we stay in League 1, there will be no change. Results like the U17 and U18 yesterday make a mockery of the system in its present form.
  • Swisdom said:
    Swisdom said:
    seth plum said:
    I have no idea how the rules work, or who is in charge, but it seems quite ridiculous to me that we were not made a category 1 academy years ago.
    We succeed in matches and produce a strong stream of good footballers.
    Is it because we’re unfashionable in some way?
    The Crystal Palace academy doesn’t match up to the success of ours over the years.
    We spent a lot of money aiming for Cat 1 and my company did LOADS of work on it - including all the ground works, installation and sourcing the units at the training ground as well as their transport from Reading to Sparrow's Lane.  It was a lot of work and will hopefully be worth it in years to come.

    The biggest stumbling block was our level - no 3rd tier team has been awarded Cat 1 status (some may have had it before dropping in but no team in the 3rd tier had ever achieved it and the feeling at the club was the EFL didn't want to set a precedent.
    Other issues like the numbers of coaches could have been rectified but were cited as part of the reason

    It seems it was a largely political decision from the EFL because the quality of players we consistently produce is outstanding
    Good to see that the powers in Football are more worried about how things "look" than benefiting the actual youngsters.

    Sorry but that verges on the scandalous
    It wasn't officially stated as such but that was the feeling in-house - that came from Ged and Thomas as well as a few others so was the general perception

    I expect we will try again if we get promoted
    The bloke who created the whole EPPP system and locked us out of it?  Then we paid him handsomely to fail to get us back to where we belong.
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