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  • shine166 said:
    Absolutely, but none of those draws can come from teams around us in this final run. Orient were already 2 games into a losing run when we played them and Stockport we dropped points to. 

    We need Wycombe and Wrexham to lose 2 games each really, luckily we can be one of those teams to each, but it feels like a big ask atm.

    Wrexham vs Stockport on Saturday we need to see Wrexham picking up no more than a point and its on. 

    One game at a time, but it's out of our hands for now.
    I'd agree with that. I'm sure there will be more twists and turns to come but with the run in Wrexham have, i think if they beat Stockport then for me they're big favourites to get 2nd. 
  • Still think if we finish above Stockport that means we will get 2nd. 

    We all want 2nd but with both Wrexham and Wycombe having 5 points on CAFC and with a better GD I'm surprised you think that we can pull back 6 points on both. I can't see us winning at both Wrexham and Wycombe which we will need to do in the last 9 games.
    WW were mediocre last night yet still won 3-1 at Rotherham. Wrexham have been on this crest of a wave for the last 4 years and in this bang average 3rd tier division they could carry on their cinematic journey.
    Plus Stockport in the mix for 2nd.

  • We all want 2nd but with both Wrexham and Wycombe having 5 points on CAFC and with a better GD I'm surprised you think that we can pull back 6 points on both. I can't see us winning at both Wrexham and Wycombe which we will need to do in the last 9 games.
    WW were mediocre last night yet still won 3-1 at Rotherham. Wrexham have been on this crest of a wave for the last 4 years and in this bang average 3rd tier division they could carry on their cinematic journey.
    Plus Stockport in the mix for 2nd.

    No one said it will be easy but there is a slight chance we can pull it off. Yes we'd have to win at both Wycombe and Wrexham but if we are going to do it why not do it the hard way.

    In my opinion it's a very long shot. If we fall short at least make sure we finish 3rd or 4th for second leg home advantage in the play offs.
  • kafka said:
    It's an exciting format though. I think they should reintroduce it
    That’s what they use in Germany, I think. 
    In the two years we had it Charlton stayed up and Chelsea went down, which proves that it is a good system. 
  • Anything is possible but we haven't even won as many as 4 in a row all season, so to suddenly win 11 is unlikely.
    Good point. I just hate the lottery of the playoffs. It’s such a shame leaving the lottery of those games and a biggun at Wembley decide the fate of our better players - Kayne, Thierry, Edwards, Coventry would surely all be hunted 
  • I still think it'll take a 1998 finish (last 14 games, 12 wins and 1 draw) to clinch an automatic spot. We're doing brilliantly to be on that pace with the only points dropped being the draw at Stockport but we clearly have very little room for error going forward. A big worry for me is we flog our first team to death trying to get the automatic spot, fall just short and are burned out come the playoffs.
    Also a fair point
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  • There is going to be some surprises on the way, we may be a victim of a surprise result too, at the end of the day, we have to do our but and what happens elsewhere. The table will change, we may be 2nd in early April, we may not, If we end up 2nd at 5pm on may 3rd, that's all that matters. In a way I'm hoping it's a reverse of the championship season when we only spent two games in the bottom 3 but went down.
  • We’ve got no real chance of second (I will buy Callum his first season ticket upon his return to these shores if we finish top two this season )

    play offs we are pretty much assured of .

    failure in the play offs is how I’m feeling this seasons story ends .

    3%   Top two 
    85% 3rd-6th
    12% 7th-12th 

    20% play off winner
    30% play off final loser 
    50% loser in the semis 

    (for the record 2019 I called a play off final penalty loss when there was plenty of the season left) 


  • Continue our current form and we will get enough for second if you look at the points gained on Wrexham and Wycombe over the the last 9/10 games.
    can only do what we can do.
  • People are overthinking this yet again. All we have to do is continue with what we’ve been doing and that is to go out and win each game as it comes around. We might not necessarily win every one of them but that’s OK, there is leeway for that courtesy of the fact that the other teams will drop points, though I think this Charlton team has it in them to actually win all 9 of the remaining games.


    I agree - some people are definitely overthinking this.
    It's one game at a time and see where we are. That's all.

    Personally I doubt if we'll win all 9 remaining games.
    But then, nor will our promotion rivals.

    If one of them does - then they've bleddy well earned promotion! :)



  • There is going to be some surprises on the way, we may be a victim of a surprise result too, at the end of the day, we have to do our but and what happens elsewhere. The table will change, we may be 2nd in early April, we may not, If we end up 2nd at 5pm on may 3rd, that's all that matters. In a way I'm hoping it's a reverse of the championship season when we only spent two games in the bottom 3 but went down.
    It does seem that some people give the impression they almost need to have it sorted and promotion clinched right now.
    That's not the way it works in football, ever!

    The finishing line is only after every team has played 46 games. 
    That's it, that's all that counts!

    All the rest is merely conjecture and anticipation.
    And the thrill of the chase!



  • edited March 19
    Leuth said:
    Would people take the current table as the final table if offered? I just about wouldn't, but the fact Wrexham aren't automatically promoted and Bolton aren't in the playoffs would sorely tempt me 
    I think there's more chance of us failing to  make the playoffs than there is of us clinching second place (that's my opinion I'm not sure about her current odds). On that basis I'd take it if offered.
  • I think there's more chance of us failing to  make the playoffs than there is of us clinching second place (that's my opinion I'm not sure about her current odds). On that basis I'd take it if offered.
    The chance of automatic promotion comes around less often than you do, Santa, so I'll say "thanks, but no thanks" to Leuth's offer. It's a satsuma and a lump of coal compared to the delights we could potentially unwrap. (Insert your own present wish list here.) 😀
  • Leuth said:
    Would people take the current table as the final table if offered? I just about wouldn't, but the fact Wrexham aren't automatically promoted and Bolton aren't in the playoffs would sorely tempt me 
    No, absolutely not. We've an outside chance of automatic promotion. 

    Why surrender that chance of next season definitely playing in the Championship, compared with the soft option lottery of a 25% chance of being promoted through the playoffs. 

  • Oggy Red said:
    No, absolutely not. We've an outside chance of automatic promotion. 

    Why surrender that chance of next season definitely playing in the Championship, compared with the soft option lottery of a 25% chance of being promoted through the playoffs. 

    I was going to say yes, but you've managed to change my mind. 👍
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  • Why do people keep saying we are 5 points behind Wrexham and Wycombe? It's 2 and goal difference as we will have to beat them both to have a chance. That's the only way of looking at imo. Very unlikely they both lose more than 2, so we have to hope someone does us a favour a few times and we need to win 7 more games at least including those two.

    I think it's a bit unlikely now. Had we beat Stockport and those two drew, I could see it, just think we will run out of the games. 

    Either way, I can't wait for the prospect of play-offs if we can manage that. Usually a dead season long before now.
  • edited March 19
    Why do people keep saying we are 5 points behind Wrexham and Wycombe? It's 2 and goal difference as we will have to beat them both to have a chance.
    Because it is 5 ? and may well be 8 by 5pm Saturday. 
  • Why do people keep saying we are 5 points behind Wrexham and Wycombe? It's 2 and goal difference as we will have to beat them both to have a chance. That's the only way of looking at imo. Very unlikely they both lose more than 2, so we have to hope someone does us a favour a few times and we need to win 7 more games at least including those two.

    I think it's a bit unlikely now. Had we beat Stockport and those two drew, I could see it, just think we will run out of the games. 

    Either way, I can't wait for the prospect of play-offs if we can manage that. Usually a dead season long before now.
    That is how I look at it. Get within 2 points of Wycombe and 3 of Wrexham and it is our hands. That doesn't mean we will take it but it is possible.
  • The reality is that all of us will drop points, and not necessarily in the games you'd expect to drop points in . One Saturday it's wrist slitting time because you fail to beat Burton, the next it's all joy again because your rivals lost to Lincoln.
  • Very likely everyone drops points considering:

    At least one of Wrexham or Stockport will drop points.

    At least one of Wycombe or Charlton will drop points.

    At least one of Wrexham or Charlton will drop points.

    At least one of Wycombe or Stockport will drop points.

    And each of us have 7 other games we're all more than capable of losing. 3 of the 4 of us have lost at least one game to a side currently in the bottom 4 (Wycombe only one that haven't) so just need to focus on the next game, try and win it and move on. With 4 teams in the race it would surprise me if anyone had it wrapped up with more than a game to go.
  • edited March 19
    Good point. I just hate the lottery of the playoffs. It’s such a shame leaving the lottery of those games and a biggun at Wembley decide the fate of our better players - Kayne, Thierry, Edwards, Coventry would surely all be hunted 
    The play-offs have brought the most exciting times in our history, although give me a 2000 and 2012 stroll to promotion every time.
  • edited March 19
    its inconcevable that Wrexham away won't me moved as SKY have to make the decision by Monday god lets hope its not a Thursday evening KO, that would be a massive blow for travelling addicks. Best - Worse case scenerio is a 12.30 KO on Saturday April 23rd 
    horrible 3.5-4hr drive with breaks its a 7am or earlier departure. This one month rule where SKY can change fixture date needs to be amended to at least 2 months to allow fans to plan ahead for travel / hotel etc. What a shame its unlikely to be 3pm, I'm sure if were in the mix for an automatic and because its The Disney Welsh Dragons we will fill the away end but a Thursday evening that is a huge ask? 
  • edited March 19
    at least if trains are running ok the 8.33 gets in 11.00 
    with a 1/3 saver card its £53.55 other two before are 40mins slower or more changes if its Saturday 12.30 KO, I think i will aim for first one out of Euston 06.29am gets in 09.00 and see a bit of Wrexham.....lets see what SKY decide? 
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