Playoffs Guaranteed Minimum - Good Friday

shine166 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

shine166 said:

Peterborough, Huddersfield, Wycombe and Wrexham are very loseable games, realistically they are 4 games which we can't afford to drop any points in. 

So were Leyton Orient, Barnsley and Stockport though

I think the last eleven games are all loseable matches if we don't approach them the right way, especially Burton on the last day of the season if they're in with a chance of survival (Its Rochdale in 2017/18 all over again), I still think we can afford to draw two, maybe three games and that's it, if we want second.

Absolutely, but none of those draws can come from teams around us in this final run. Orient were already 2 games into a losing run when we played them and Stockport we dropped points to. 

We need Wycombe and Wrexham to lose 2 games each really, luckily we can be one of those teams to each, but it feels like a big ask atm.

Wrexham vs Stockport on Saturday we need to see Wrexham picking up no more than a point and its on. 

One game at a time, but it's out of our hands for now.

letthegoodtimesroll said:

People are overthinking this yet again. All we have to do is continue with what we’ve been doing and that is to go out and win each game as it comes around. We might not necessarily win every one of them but that’s OK, there is leeway for that courtesy of the fact that the other teams will drop points, though I think this Charlton team has it in them to actually win all 9 of the remaining games.

kafka said:

Jints said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Addick Addict said:

bobmunro said:

golfaddick said:

Jints said:

golfaddick said:

killerandflash said:

The home leg being the second one ought to be beneficial, but then in 2019 we won in Doncaster and lost at home, resulting in penalties.

Being at home definitely helped us in the shootout but then Liverpool lost their shootout at home last week.

Something that I have always though was strange is that if a game goes into extra time then the home team has an advantage, which is not the same for the away team who had home advantage in the 1st leg. Nothing that can be done about it unless the game goes straight to pens.....but it has always made me think that this is another advantage of playing the 2nd leg at home - an extra 30 mins on front of the home fans.

It's an advantage you get for coming 3rd or 4th in the playoffs rather than 6th or 5th

But what about any other 2-legged tie ?  FA Cup or Champions League matches for example. They aren't "position" based. In fact, the FA Cup is even more unfair. Games this season that have gone straight to Extra Time & then penalties have massively favoured the home team, which doesn't help a small team facing a much larger one - say Lincoln away to Liverpool.

I know nothing can be done about and I'm just musing that having extra time after a 2--leg tie massively favours the team at home in the 2nd leg. 

A team that finishes 3rd should have an advantage over a team that finishes 6th - and the same for 4th over 5th.

The Champions League is to an extent position based - teams that do well in the group stage get home advantage second leg in the round of 16.

I'm not sure it massively favours the home team anyway in the second leg if it goes to extra time - the pressure on the home team from the home crowd having failed to take venue advantage levels the paying field to a large degree. I agree the FA Cup is unfair to the smaller team drawn away and was never in favour of scrapping replays (at least one).

I quite like a playoff structure that rewards clubs that do finish 3rd and 4th over 5th and 6th. If we look. for example, at the Championship, we have a situation where Burnley in third are 21 points ahead of the side in 6th, WBA - the former has lost just 2 games all season whereas Coventry, in fifth, have lost 13 matches.

The one, specifically, that I think works better is:

3rd plays 4th and the winner automatically goes into the play off final. The loser of that tie then plays the winner of 5th versus 6th to determine who also reaches the final.    

Does anyone know why the old play off format was scrapped?

3rd, 4th and 5th from the league below plus 4th bottom from the league above.

From memory that was only used for the two seasons when they were shrinking the league from 22 to 20 (and only for div1/div2 playoffs, not the lower leagues). The alternative would have been bottom 4 down.

It's an exciting format though. I think they should reintroduce it

twiggyaddick said:

There is going to be some surprises on the way, we may be a victim of a surprise result too, at the end of the day, we have to do our but and what happens elsewhere. The table will change, we may be 2nd in early April, we may not, If we end up 2nd at 5pm on may 3rd, that's all that matters. In a way I'm hoping it's a reverse of the championship season when we only spent two games in the bottom 3 but went down.

Leuth said:

Would people take the current table as the final table if offered? I just about wouldn't, but the fact Wrexham aren't automatically promoted and Bolton aren't in the playoffs would sorely tempt me 

Leuth said:

Would people take the current table as the final table if offered? I just about wouldn't, but the fact Wrexham aren't automatically promoted and Bolton aren't in the playoffs would sorely tempt me 

Braziliance said:

Why do people keep saying we are 5 points behind Wrexham and Wycombe? It's 2 and goal difference as we will have to beat them both to have a chance. That's the only way of looking at imo. Very unlikely they both lose more than 2, so we have to hope someone does us a favour a few times and we need to win 7 more games at least including those two.

I think it's a bit unlikely now. Had we beat Stockport and those two drew, I could see it, just think we will run out of the games. 

Either way, I can't wait for the prospect of play-offs if we can manage that. Usually a dead season long before now.