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  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    And whether you like it or not, I hate Southgate with a passion.
    I think the bloke should leave his private views to himself and concentrate on football.
    Sick of this, we need educating bollocks.
    Made a complete prick of himself with his principled mindset in Qatar.
    If he could just get on with getting the best out of the team and leaving any political stances to one side, then I would think higher of him than I do at present.
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,811
    R0TW said:
    I would do whatever it takes to get Eddie Howe.
    I presume that includes forcing him against his own will. No chance he wants it.
    This is correct, he doesn't. Not yet anyway.
  • Southgate in the crowd at the Bayern match tonight. Perhaps just in case he was in any doubt as to whether to pick Harry Kane for the Euro's this summer.

    Surely his time would've been better spent going to one of the many premier league games today?
  • Eric Dier I expect.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Southgate in the crowd at the Bayern match tonight. Perhaps just in case he was in any doubt as to whether to pick Harry Kane for the Euro's this summer.

    Surely his time would've been better spent going to one of the many premier league games today?
    Could have been in Germany for euro preparations? Looking at camp or whatever. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Hmmm - old news? 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Yep sorry, for some reason it's just come up on Twitter
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Call yourself a mod   :smiley:
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    lol "Slow" Sports News -


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  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    Tonight he's fervently hoping that " Dear England" doesn't become " Dear dear, England !"
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    "Oh dear England"
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Gribbo said:
    "Oh dear England"
    That was my headline in the 95th minute of the last match.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    edited March 19
    Brilliant lecture by Gareth on the 'Richard Dimbleby Lecture' currently showing on the BBC. 
    Mainly about helping young men in the current world we live in.
    Well worth a watch.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Brilliant lecture by Gareth on the 'Richard Dimbleby Lecture' currently showing on the BBC. 
    Mainly about helping young men in the current world we live in.
    Well worth a watch.
    Agree. Very impressive.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,431
    Brilliant lecture by Gareth on the 'Richard Dimbleby Lecture' currently showing on the BBC. 
    Mainly about helping young men in the current world we live in.
    Well worth a watch.
    Spot on. I may not always have agreed with Southgate's selections or tactics but he's always come across as a decent bloke and a good role model, something which he has also tried to encourage in others. I think Euro 96 told me all I needed to know about him, which may seem odd given what Southgate is remembered for in that tournament. But just think, he was new to international football, having only made his England debut a few months earlier. It was his first major tournament and we're in a penalty shootout for a place in the finals. First 5 penalty takers have all scored and it's sudden death. The courage it took to stand up and say "I'll do it" was immense. Regardless of the fact he missed (sorry, spoilers), I have always admired him for stepping up in the first place. Just look at Paul "The Guv'nor" Ince in the centre circle, doing his very best to make himself invisible!
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Rizzo said:
    Brilliant lecture by Gareth on the 'Richard Dimbleby Lecture' currently showing on the BBC. 
    Mainly about helping young men in the current world we live in.
    Well worth a watch.
    Spot on. I may not always have agreed with Southgate's selections or tactics but he's always come across as a decent bloke and a good role model, something which he has also tried to encourage in others. I think Euro 96 told me all I needed to know about him, which may seem odd given what Southgate is remembered for in that tournament. But just think, he was new to international football, having only made his England debut a few months earlier. It was his first major tournament and we're in a penalty shootout for a place in the finals. First 5 penalty takers have all scored and it's sudden death. The courage it took to stand up and say "I'll do it" was immense. Regardless of the fact he missed (sorry, spoilers), I have always admired him for stepping up in the first place. Just look at Paul "The Guv'nor" Ince in the centre circle, doing his very best to make himself invisible!
    Exactly this - Adams and Ince who were supposed to be leaders, Anderton and McManaman who were wingers so should have been better with a dead ball, all let the young centre back who didn't take penalties step up first.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    edited March 20
    Rizzo said:
    Brilliant lecture by Gareth on the 'Richard Dimbleby Lecture' currently showing on the BBC. 
    Mainly about helping young men in the current world we live in.
    Well worth a watch.
    Spot on. I may not always have agreed with Southgate's selections or tactics but he's always come across as a decent bloke and a good role model, something which he has also tried to encourage in others. I think Euro 96 told me all I needed to know about him, which may seem odd given what Southgate is remembered for in that tournament. But just think, he was new to international football, having only made his England debut a few months earlier. It was his first major tournament and we're in a penalty shootout for a place in the finals. First 5 penalty takers have all scored and it's sudden death. The courage it took to stand up and say "I'll do it" was immense. Regardless of the fact he missed (sorry, spoilers), I have always admired him for stepping up in the first place. Just look at Paul "The Guv'nor" Ince in the centre circle, doing his very best to make himself invisible!
    Exactly this - Adams and Ince who were supposed to be leaders, Anderton and McManaman who were wingers so should have been better with a dead ball, all let the young centre back who didn't take penalties step up first.
    What really gets my goat is when I hear many an argument about Southgates  knighthood that always concludes ' He never won nuffin'.

    There was so much more to him than that. He did so much for young men entering THE arena of football arenas in this country. Young kids being scrutinised and harassed for pulling on the England shirt.
    I'm not Beckham's biggest fan but some of the stuff directed at him in 98 was truly despicable.
     Southgate made the passage and weight of the England shirt a lot more bearable. The rewards were a by-product of his excellent work.
    There are many knights of the realm, past and present that leave me scratching my head as to why they receive the honour in the first place.
    Southgate really isn't one of them..
    The fella oozes class and kindness. The country was lucky to have him.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    Southgate is one of those who I think will only be truly appreciated in years to come. The level of abuse he was on the receiving end from a section of so called England fans (usually the ones who sit on social media/behind their keyboard), was ridiculous.

    His knighthood wasn't provided based on what he had or hadn't won, it was provided on the basis of the contribution his efforts made to sport in this country. And a number of the most glorious sporting days this country had in the last 10 years involved Gareth Southgate's England at major tournaments. Well deserved.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,079
    Rizzo said:
    Brilliant lecture by Gareth on the 'Richard Dimbleby Lecture' currently showing on the BBC. 
    Mainly about helping young men in the current world we live in.
    Well worth a watch.
    Spot on. I may not always have agreed with Southgate's selections or tactics but he's always come across as a decent bloke and a good role model, something which he has also tried to encourage in others. I think Euro 96 told me all I needed to know about him, which may seem odd given what Southgate is remembered for in that tournament. But just think, he was new to international football, having only made his England debut a few months earlier. It was his first major tournament and we're in a penalty shootout for a place in the finals. First 5 penalty takers have all scored and it's sudden death. The courage it took to stand up and say "I'll do it" was immense. Regardless of the fact he missed (sorry, spoilers), I have always admired him for stepping up in the first place. Just look at Paul "The Guv'nor" Ince in the centre circle, doing his very best to make himself invisible!
    Southgate should have made himself invisible as well. Stripey nigel bastard.
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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Expect him to be standing as a Labour MP candidate at the next election. He lives in Harrogate, Lib Dem territory, Somewhere in Leeds//Manchester would be a better option
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited March 21
    As a manager, he had lots of qualities and I got a sense that his players would run through brick walls for him. I think he felt that in competitions where one game will see you out, an approach that is too front foot is too dangerous. I would agree it is dangerous but it it is the best way to win them. I think the semi final defeat against Croatia and the Final against Italy are on him but he was successful and getting to those positions was a success. Indeed he may have been right in that we might not have got there without his approach. It comes down to opinions. But what we can ultimately agree on is that he is a decent human being.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,697
    edited June 25
    Now knighted for erm, being an alright bloke and a manager. 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1ljpdn6yelo
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    We have so much to learn from footballers.
    Perhaps they could give society a whole new redress.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    Now knighted for erm, being an alright bloke and a manager. 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1ljpdn6yelo
    And to look at the other Managers that have received the accolade, he could not hold a candle to them.



  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Just England’s best manager not named Alf Ramsey. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    Just England’s best manager not named Alf Ramsey. 

    Not won anything though.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,241
    Just England’s best manager not named Alf Ramsey. 

    Not won anything though.
    Ive got to come in to bat for Gareth here. He did more for the national team than his predecessors. Terry Venables arguably had at least as much firepower at his disposal, Bobby Robson was absolutely pilloried before italia 90 and pulled a rabbit out of a hat as a low margin side with some remarkably good players and a shit keeper (never rated Peter Shilton, granted i saw him towards the end of his career). 

    I think a lot of us are going to come to really miss Sir Gareth and realise what we had. I haven't seen anything in the way the team are set up under Tuchel to suggest there has been a positive change and the knives will be out for him and more spiteful than they were for GS and they were pretty unpleasant 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    The level of disconnect between fans and the team before he took charge, to how united the nation were during his reign.
    Could argue he made a generation fall in love with international football.
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    Really?