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Dartford Crossing Toll charge to go up by 50p (ed. up to 2.50 soon)

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  • Gribbo said:
    Something needs to be done to decrease the Dartford tunnel queues 
    Stick the toll up by 2 quid.

    In reality it won't help the congestion, but it'll mug Joe Public of another few quid from their disposable, that the government are intent on getting their hands on.
    Does the Dartford tolls go to the government? Thought it went the French company that owns it.
    Thought it was the DfT. Their logo is on my auto payment account.
  • Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    Something needs to be done to decrease the Dartford tunnel queues 
    Stick the toll up by 2 quid.

    In reality it won't help the congestion, but it'll mug Joe Public of another few quid from their disposable, that the government are intent on getting their hands on.
    Does the Dartford tolls go to the government? Thought it went the French company that owns it.
    Thought it was the DfT. Their logo is on my auto payment account.
    Just check, yes it’s DfT.
  • edited March 25
    "The Dartford Crossing generates over £200 million per year from tolls and fines.

    The operating costs are much lower, meaning the UK government makes a substantial surplus."

    Apparently the government outsources collection, enforcement and maintenance to a Spanish firm.
  • Something needs to be done to decrease the Dartford tunnel queues 
    And the gridlock in Dartford whenever there's a problem in the tunnels or approach roads. You can't keep adding crossings in the same place, as an accident on the approach road (e.g. between the A2 and Princes Road) blocks everything.
    D’oh!
    If only they’d thought about that before siting the Silvertown Tunnel
  • I’m surprised it could be built within 7 years. That sounds optimistic. 
  • I’m surprised it could be built within 7 years. That sounds optimistic. 
    If it was in Japan they'll have it done by the end of the year
  • Whilst the congestion at Dartford does need addressing, there is no escaping the fact that the new tunnel is going to be devastating for nature. The connecting roads will cross some very important habitats, that cannot easily be replaced. When this is built there will no doubt be more land developed to the detriment of nature. The A229 Bluebell Hill will also be radically changed, as it will form the main link from the M20 to the M2 and the new tunnel. The proposed changes will devastate the roadside nature reserve that runs alongside Bluebill Hill which is a habitat for rare orchids amongst other species at risk of extinction.

    The following link to Kent Wildlife Trust's statement on the announcement explains just how bad this is for nature.

    https://www.kentwildlifetrust.org.uk/news/lower-thames-crossing-approved-response?fbclid=IwY2xjawJPzZ9leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHdwHpMwGtTd6nlq86FaFZYgg917sQxI25bfIPlEr214J-NvI-V5nQULCaA_aem_thKCOk8ODU5KcJrAclsuYA
  • The same is true of any construction on land where there is currently no development, everything but brownfield sites. 

    It would be interesting to know what alternative routes, at higher cost, were less damaging.
  • The map showing the junction of the LTC and A2 is somewhat simplistic.  This flyby video shows what is planned.  
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y5g264PojA
  • The same is true of any construction on land where there is currently no development, everything but brownfield sites. 

    It would be interesting to know what alternative routes, at higher cost, were less damaging.
    They could have moved it a few hundred yards closer to Gravesend town centre & then it would have ploughed straight through the Denton area.  Anyone from around that area knows that this would have improved it no end...😉😄
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  • 'golfaddick said:
    The same is true of any construction on land where there is currently no development, everything but brownfield sites. 

    It would be interesting to know what alternative routes, at higher cost, were less damaging.
    They could have moved it a few hundred yards closer to Gravesend town centre & then it would have ploughed straight through the Denton area.  Anyone from around that area knows that this would have improved it no end...😉😄
    I thought this myself. Absolutely nobody would object to Denton being razed
  • Hex said:
    The map showing the junction of the LTC and A2 is somewhat simplistic.  This flyby video shows what is planned.  
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y5g264PojA
    Could they have made that video go a bit slower? Even at twice playback speed it absolutely crawled (much like traffic through the Dartford Tunnel). 
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