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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Huddersfield Town: Saturday 29th March 2025: KO 12:30

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    agim said:
    soapboxsam said:
    ct_addick said:
    Was almost pitchside for the game and Anderson made a couple of crunching tackles when he came on….also fluffed a corner but hey that’s what you get…if he can improve technically he is going to be a good player

    I can only say what I see and Karoy Zidane Lovebourne Anderson has been training with CAFC since he was 9 years old so would've been kicking a football most days after school and during school holidays with professional coaching.
    Karoy who is a religious lad which has helped him to be dedicated and grounded while most of his peer group has dropped out of the hard job of being a full time pro.

    I see a fantastic athlete with an excellent engine which is why his has over 50 apps for CAFC at 20 years old.
    What I can't witness at the moment is technical ability on the ball despite his ability to negate and close down the ball with stamina in abundance.

    I had the fortune over a couple of seasons to see many talented young Midfielders at an independent Football academy and many of them had more skill when in possession of the ball BUT most didn't/couldn't do the hard yards demanded by the coaches when out of possession. 

    I would hope Karoy Anderson, similar to his quiet college TC stays behind some afternoon in practicing his ball skills because if his touch can improve he can be a fine midfielder but I personally haven't seen that skill come to fruition YET.

    At the moment he reminds me of George Lapslie, once of this Parish and at 27 is now at Bradford with a fresh 2 1/2 year contract after moving from Gillingham.
    Doing well in league 2 and another player who by being dedicated and who has added the odd goal to his great stamina and ability to cover every blade of grass which makes up for any short comings on the ball.

    So many of the ballers I saw who are now playing semi pro at 20ish would love to swop places with Karoy or George. 
    He reminds me of Bradley Pritchard. Massive engine but lacking the football ability to play at a higher level. If we go up I think he'd struggle
    I have to agree, energy and physicality can take you so far but he doesn’t yet have the passing range or fine control to go right to the very top.

    In many ways he's the opposite of TC. One had plenty of skill but was physically not quite ready, the other one has the energy but not quite the technique. I suspect its easier to make a skilful player stronger than to make a physical one more skilful but Jones obviously sees something he likes.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited April 1
    agim said:
    soapboxsam said:
    ct_addick said:
    Was almost pitchside for the game and Anderson made a couple of crunching tackles when he came on….also fluffed a corner but hey that’s what you get…if he can improve technically he is going to be a good player

    I can only say what I see and Karoy Zidane Lovebourne Anderson has been training with CAFC since he was 9 years old so would've been kicking a football most days after school and during school holidays with professional coaching.
    Karoy who is a religious lad which has helped him to be dedicated and grounded while most of his peer group has dropped out of the hard job of being a full time pro.

    I see a fantastic athlete with an excellent engine which is why his has over 50 apps for CAFC at 20 years old.
    What I can't witness at the moment is technical ability on the ball despite his ability to negate and close down the ball with stamina in abundance.

    I had the fortune over a couple of seasons to see many talented young Midfielders at an independent Football academy and many of them had more skill when in possession of the ball BUT most didn't/couldn't do the hard yards demanded by the coaches when out of possession. 

    I would hope Karoy Anderson, similar to his quiet college TC stays behind some afternoon in practicing his ball skills because if his touch can improve he can be a fine midfielder but I personally haven't seen that skill come to fruition YET.

    At the moment he reminds me of George Lapslie, once of this Parish and at 27 is now at Bradford with a fresh 2 1/2 year contract after moving from Gillingham.
    Doing well in league 2 and another player who by being dedicated and who has added the odd goal to his great stamina and ability to cover every blade of grass which makes up for any short comings on the ball.

    So many of the ballers I saw who are now playing semi pro at 20ish would love to swop places with Karoy or George. 
    He reminds me of Bradley Pritchard. Massive engine but lacking the football ability to play at a higher level. If we go up I think he'd struggle

    Good shout on Pritchard.
    Unlike Karoy and George Lapslie he came late to pro Football, very late in fact. Bradley was only a pro footballer from 25 to 31 before he went back to being a semi pro and an analyst and is now a player coach for Phoenix sport.
    At 39 he still loves to play as he is still as fit as a butchers dog even if he doesn't quite get around the field as fast !
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited April 1
    soapboxsam said:
    ct_addick said:
    Was almost pitchside for the game and Anderson made a couple of crunching tackles when he came on….also fluffed a corner but hey that’s what you get…if he can improve technically he is going to be a good player

    I can only say what I see and Karoy Zidane Lovebourne Anderson has been training with CAFC since he was 9 years old so would've been kicking a football most days after school and during school holidays with professional coaching.
    Karoy who is a religious lad which has helped him to be dedicated and grounded while most of his peer group has dropped out of the hard job of being a full time pro.

    I see a fantastic athlete with an excellent engine which is why his has over 50 apps for CAFC at 20 years old.
    What I can't witness at the moment is technical ability on the ball despite his ability to negate and close down the ball with stamina in abundance.

    I had the fortune over a couple of seasons to see many talented young Midfielders at an independent Football academy and many of them had more skill when in possession of the ball BUT most didn't/couldn't do the hard yards demanded by the coaches when out of possession. 

    I would hope Karoy Anderson, similar to his quiet college TC stays behind some afternoon in practicing his ball skills because if his touch can improve he can be a fine midfielder but I personally haven't seen that skill come to fruition YET.

    At the moment he reminds me of George Lapslie, once of this Parish and at 27 is now at Bradford with a fresh 2 1/2 year contract after moving from Gillingham.
    Doing well in league 2 and another player who by being dedicated and who has added the odd goal to his great stamina and ability to cover every blade of grass which makes up for any short comings on the ball.

    So many of the ballers I saw who are now playing semi pro at 20ish would love to swop places with Karoy or George. 
    You clearly didn't see much of him in the youth team. The things you say he hasn't got is something he showed he had in abundance. It gets harder when you have less time on the ball and takes a bit of time. A big dufference to me is that physically, he looked one of our bigger units in the youth team but he looks a young lad in the first team. Which is what he is and he is getting a great grounding IMO.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,040
    edited April 1
    I remember having a chat to Hamza Serrar after an U18s FAYC game down at Worthing which had James Beadell, Zach Mitchell,Josh Laq,TC,Daniel Kanu and Miles Leaburn in the side. Karoy was injured but he said Karoy had the most upside of that side for him. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    MarcusH26 said:
    I remember having a chat to Hamza Serrar after an U18s FAYC game down at Worthing which had James Beadell, Zach Mitchell,Josh Laq,TC,Daniel Kanu and Miles Leaburn in the side. Karoy was injured but he said Karoy had the most upside of that side for him. 
    I'd be amazed if Karoy had a higher ceiling than the likes of Beadle and Mitchell. He'll have a good career, but doesn't have the first touch and class on the ball which the top sides look for, and which Zach has for example.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    I recall posting on here a few years back raving about Anderson's first touch. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    killerandflash said:
    Jones, Campbell and Small make the L1 team of the week. 


    A different team of the week, this time it's Campbell, Small and Berry in it. Plus a couple of exes...



  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,674
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I recall posting on here a few years back raving about Anderson's first touch. 
    Think it was the preseason games for the 23/24 season where he looks absolutely Rolls Royce
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    No it was when he was in the youths.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    killerandflash said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    I remember having a chat to Hamza Serrar after an U18s FAYC game down at Worthing which had James Beadell, Zach Mitchell,Josh Laq,TC,Daniel Kanu and Miles Leaburn in the side. Karoy was injured but he said Karoy had the most upside of that side for him. 
    I'd be amazed if Karoy had a higher ceiling than the likes of Beadle and Mitchell. He'll have a good career, but doesn't have the first touch and class on the ball which the top sides look for, and which Zach has for example.
    Agree and Laqeretabua, TC and Leaburn have a lot of potential too. Big call to say Anderson will go the furthest, but of course we’ve had the benefit of seeing how each have progressed since then.
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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,536
    tangoflash said:
    Hudderfield's version of Charlton Live. Was interesting to hear their take on the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsCmEpxpa7o
    FFS what a depressing mob they are...

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSALQn0u9z4
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    soapboxsam said:
    ct_addick said:
    Was almost pitchside for the game and Anderson made a couple of crunching tackles when he came on….also fluffed a corner but hey that’s what you get…if he can improve technically he is going to be a good player

    I can only say what I see and Karoy Zidane Lovebourne Anderson has been training with CAFC since he was 9 years old so would've been kicking a football most days after school and during school holidays with professional coaching.
    Karoy who is a religious lad which has helped him to be dedicated and grounded while most of his peer group has dropped out of the hard job of being a full time pro.

    I see a fantastic athlete with an excellent engine which is why his has over 50 apps for CAFC at 20 years old.
    What I can't witness at the moment is technical ability on the ball despite his ability to negate and close down the ball with stamina in abundance.

    I had the fortune over a couple of seasons to see many talented young Midfielders at an independent Football academy and many of them had more skill when in possession of the ball BUT most didn't/couldn't do the hard yards demanded by the coaches when out of possession. 

    I would hope Karoy Anderson, similar to his quiet college TC stays behind some afternoon in practicing his ball skills because if his touch can improve he can be a fine midfielder but I personally haven't seen that skill come to fruition YET.

    At the moment he reminds me of George Lapslie, once of this Parish and at 27 is now at Bradford with a fresh 2 1/2 year contract after moving from Gillingham.
    Doing well in league 2 and another player who by being dedicated and who has added the odd goal to his great stamina and ability to cover every blade of grass which makes up for any short comings on the ball.

    So many of the ballers I saw who are now playing semi pro at 20ish would love to swop places with Karoy or George. 
    You clearly didn't see much of him in the youth team. The things you say he hasn't got is something he showed he had in abundance. It gets harder when you have less time on the ball and takes a bit of time. A big dufference to me is that physically, he looked one of our bigger units in the youth team but he looks a young lad in the first team. Which is what he is and he is getting a great grounding IMO.

    Agree, I only watched a few matches of Anderson for the youth team or U21.
    I'm judging Karoy on what I'm seeing in the 1st team. I'm not writing him off and not talking in the vernacular of some CL posters and calling him "Shite" or whoever they have called  'shite" over the decade plus of being on CL.
    Of course it's harder in Professional mens football than youth football.  That why so few make the transition from boy's to men's football.

    With 53 apps under his belt and a manager that likes him, he is making progress, it's just that I haven't seen the radar scanning of a midfielder with a good touch or  that will hold down a regular 1st team place YET at CAFC. 

    The fact that Karoy came on when 4-0 and not Gilbert did surprise me but it's Nathan's gig and he will do things his way. He wanted to keep a clean sheet and Anderson is better at Closing down  than Gilbert who appears to be better with the ball at his feet.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    soapboxsam said:
    ct_addick said:
    Was almost pitchside for the game and Anderson made a couple of crunching tackles when he came on….also fluffed a corner but hey that’s what you get…if he can improve technically he is going to be a good player

    I can only say what I see and Karoy Zidane Lovebourne Anderson has been training with CAFC since he was 9 years old so would've been kicking a football most days after school and during school holidays with professional coaching.
    Karoy who is a religious lad which has helped him to be dedicated and grounded while most of his peer group has dropped out of the hard job of being a full time pro.

    I see a fantastic athlete with an excellent engine which is why his has over 50 apps for CAFC at 20 years old.
    What I can't witness at the moment is technical ability on the ball despite his ability to negate and close down the ball with stamina in abundance.

    I had the fortune over a couple of seasons to see many talented young Midfielders at an independent Football academy and many of them had more skill when in possession of the ball BUT most didn't/couldn't do the hard yards demanded by the coaches when out of possession. 

    I would hope Karoy Anderson, similar to his quiet college TC stays behind some afternoon in practicing his ball skills because if his touch can improve he can be a fine midfielder but I personally haven't seen that skill come to fruition YET.

    At the moment he reminds me of George Lapslie, once of this Parish and at 27 is now at Bradford with a fresh 2 1/2 year contract after moving from Gillingham.
    Doing well in league 2 and another player who by being dedicated and who has added the odd goal to his great stamina and ability to cover every blade of grass which makes up for any short comings on the ball.

    So many of the ballers I saw who are now playing semi pro at 20ish would love to swop places with Karoy or George. 
    Lapslie is a good comparison.

    A great guy to have around, who will always give 100%, but I always thought Albie Morgan would have the better career, as he was technically better.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,522
    I only saw him play youth football on a stream but he instantly stood out for me - he always found time on the ball and his passing / technique looked excellent. I agree with @MuttleyCAFC and hope it is only a matter of time before this clicks fully for him in men’s football. 

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