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  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,674
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    I don't think Matty Godden is Spanish, shall we stop singing olé?
  • Chrispy51
    Chrispy51 Posts: 472
    Pelling1993 said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    I don't think Matty Godden is Spanish, shall we stop singing olé?
    Dont get me started on the Allez Allez Allez song either... it shouldn't be "every Saturday we follow", its "Most Saturdays and the occasional Tuesday we follow"
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,674
    Chrispy51 said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    I don't think Matty Godden is Spanish, shall we stop singing olé?
    Dont get me started on the Allez Allez Allez song either... it shouldn't be "every Saturday we follow", its "Most Saturdays and the occasional Tuesday we follow"
    On the topic of that song. What is the Nathan Jones bit? Seems like there is about 10 different lines sung in a mumbled fashion as no one knows what it is meant to be.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    You'd be dangerous if you had a brain.
    Runs in the family unfortunately.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,575
    Covered End said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    You'd be dangerous if you had a brain.
    Runs in the family unfortunately.
    Oi, I'm here you know.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    LargeAddick said:
    Covered End said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    You'd be dangerous if you had a brain.
    Runs in the family unfortunately.
    Oi, I'm here you know.
    You're the exception  ;)
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,171
    While we're at it, we'd better stop singing "Valley Floyd Road" - it's cultural appropriation because the Mull of Kintyre is in Scotland, not Southeast London.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    What about that racist Que Sea Sera whatever will be will be, we're going to Wembley.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,811
    And Goodbye Horse could be taken as either a pro-drugs or an anti-addicts chant as well. 
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  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,299
    blackpool72 said:
    CarltonAthleticDance said:
    blackpool72 said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    https://youtu.be/WJgLcpltOKg
    - Samba is from Brazil. 
    Campbell is English 

    - Oh, yeah, but he’s black. 

    - Bit racist, that, isn’t it?


    Seriously. 
    ‘Blackpool72’, bit rascist. 
    Why not just ‘Pool72’?
    I'm Black
    My name is Paul
    I was born in 72.
    Impressive to get nicked back then if you were only a baby. ;)
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,575
    Alwaysneil said:
    And Goodbye Horse could be taken as either a pro-drugs or an anti-addicts chant as well. 
    Not to forget its prejudicial to donkeys, mules etc.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,861
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    Chrispy51 said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    I don't think Matty Godden is Spanish, shall we stop singing olé?
    Dont get me started on the Allez Allez Allez song either... it shouldn't be "every Saturday we follow", its "Most Saturdays and the occasional Tuesday we follow"
    It’s taken from an Italian song, L’estate Sta Finendo, so it’s not ’allez’ but ’alé’.

  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    MrOneLung said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
    Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

    To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.

    Coventry sing it for Mason Clarke who, like Campbell, is black and born in London.

    I do not believe that anyone sings this out of hatred, quite the opposite, I would think that most of our supporters ’love’ TC. However it is a peculiar choice. Let’s put it in a different context. Imagine if we had a black supporter, born in London, who was voted ’Fan of The Year’. At the POTY dinner he collects his award and us other fans (99 per cent white)  sing him a samba song. 
    Do you think this would happen if over 50 per cent of the other fans were black?

    It’s a form of covert racism. I’m not that bothered about it tbh, but ask a black friend or colleague how he might feel about it. 

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,681
    jimmymelrose said:
    MrOneLung said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
    Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

    To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.

    Coventry sing it for Mason Clarke who, like Campbell, is black and born in London.

    I do not believe that anyone sings this out of hatred, quite the opposite, I would think that most of our supporters ’love’ TC. However it is a peculiar choice. Let’s put it in a different context. Imagine if we had a black supporter, born in London, who was voted ’Fan of The Year’. At the POTY dinner he collects his award and us other fans (99 per cent white)  sing him a samba song. 
    Do you think this would happen if over 50 per cent of the other fans were black?

    It’s a form of covert racism. I’m not that bothered about it tbh, but ask a black friend or colleague how he might feel about it. 

    I bet if you were to ask TC or any members of his family what they think of the song they would tell you they love it.
    The song shows TC just how much the fans love and appreciate him and nothing more.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    jimmymelrose said:
    MrOneLung said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
    Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

    To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.

    Coventry sing it for Mason Clarke who, like Campbell, is black and born in London.

    I do not believe that anyone sings this out of hatred, quite the opposite, I would think that most of our supporters ’love’ TC. However it is a peculiar choice. Let’s put it in a different context. Imagine if we had a black supporter, born in London, who was voted ’Fan of The Year’. At the POTY dinner he collects his award and us other fans (99 per cent white)  sing him a samba song. 
    Do you think this would happen if over 50 per cent of the other fans were black?

    It’s a form of covert racism. I’m not that bothered about it tbh, but ask a black friend or colleague how he might feel about it. 

    😂😂😂

    People like this live amongst us. Incredible 
  • Orpingtony
    Orpingtony Posts: 280
    Double whammy for Dean Martin. Volare for Thierry Small, Sway for TC. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    jimmymelrose said:
    MrOneLung said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
    Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

    To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.


    It’s literally taken me 5 mins of basic searching to find 10 white footballers this is being sung to. Give me half hour I’m sure I could find 20 more. This is just such a bonkers argument it’s ridiculous. 

    Will Jarvis - Notts County - English
    Harvey Greenslade - Yeovil - English
    Chloe Kelly - Arsenal Ladies - English
    Dylan Duffy - Chesterfield- Irish
    Tommy Watson - Sunderland - English
    Callum Wright - Plymouth - English
    Joe Gelhardt - Hull - English
    Stanley Mills - Oxford - English 
    Pol Valentin - Sheff W - Spanish
    Scott Twine - Bristol C - English 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,984
    The phrase ‘mic drop’ cringes me out but it’s never been more apt.

    Let that be the end of this ridiculous suggestion.
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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    edited April 4
    Croydon said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    MrOneLung said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
    Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

    To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.

    Coventry sing it for Mason Clarke who, like Campbell, is black and born in London.

    I do not believe that anyone sings this out of hatred, quite the opposite, I would think that most of our supporters ’love’ TC. However it is a peculiar choice. Let’s put it in a different context. Imagine if we had a black supporter, born in London, who was voted ’Fan of The Year’. At the POTY dinner he collects his award and us other fans (99 per cent white)  sing him a samba song. 
    Do you think this would happen if over 50 per cent of the other fans were black?

    It’s a form of covert racism. I’m not that bothered about it tbh, but ask a black friend or colleague how he might feel about it. 

    😂😂😂

    People like this live amongst us. Incredible 
    yes and since the george floyd thing, people like this are what we now have to treat as the norm for fear of possibly upsetting somebody for some obscure reason - trump is an idiot in many ways but ditching the excessive diversity bollox, he's spot on with - big companies are now following suit now its no longer 'fashionable' to pander to the nonsense. Probably a blow to the HR industry. A return to common sense will be good - as in the sense that is common to most of us being applied as opposed to the most extreme parts of society.     
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,575
    Watching ‘This City Is Ours’ I’ve come across House of Bamboo by Andy Williams. Would be a good tune for a song for someone. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,382
    AFKABartram said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    MrOneLung said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
    Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

    To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.


    It’s literally taken me 5 mins of basic searching to find 10 white footballers this is being sung to. Give me half hour I’m sure I could find 20 more. This is just such a bonkers argument it’s ridiculous. 

    Will Jarvis - Notts County - English
    Harvey Greenslade - Yeovil - English
    Chloe Kelly - Arsenal Ladies - English
    Dylan Duffy - Chesterfield- Irish
    Tommy Watson - Sunderland - English
    Callum Wright - Plymouth - English
    Joe Gelhardt - Hull - English
    Stanley Mills - Oxford - English 
    Pol Valentin - Sheff W - Spanish
    Scott Twine - Bristol C - English 

  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,861
    jimmymelrose said:
    MrOneLung said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
    Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

    To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.

    Coventry sing it for Mason Clarke who, like Campbell, is black and born in London.

    I do not believe that anyone sings this out of hatred, quite the opposite, I would think that most of our supporters ’love’ TC. However it is a peculiar choice. Let’s put it in a different context. Imagine if we had a black supporter, born in London, who was voted ’Fan of The Year’. At the POTY dinner he collects his award and us other fans (99 per cent white)  sing him a samba song. 
    Do you think this would happen if over 50 per cent of the other fans were black?

    It’s a form of covert racism. I’m not that bothered about it tbh, but ask a black friend or colleague how he might feel about it. 

    well one mixed race person has already commented on here to say this is bollocks.
    It is a catchy tune, mainly used about wingers 
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,705
    Fucking hell, this thread haha!  Could the association not just be made to south American football? "It's just like watching Brazil"?! Nothing to do with the colour of the players skin ffs
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,414
    jimmymelrose said:
    MrOneLung said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks
    Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

    To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.

    Coventry sing it for Mason Clarke who, like Campbell, is black and born in London.

    I do not believe that anyone sings this out of hatred, quite the opposite, I would think that most of our supporters ’love’ TC. However it is a peculiar choice. Let’s put it in a different context. Imagine if we had a black supporter, born in London, who was voted ’Fan of The Year’. At the POTY dinner he collects his award and us other fans (99 per cent white)  sing him a samba song. 
    Do you think this would happen if over 50 per cent of the other fans were black?

    It’s a form of covert racism. I’m not that bothered about it tbh, but ask a black friend or colleague how he might feel about it. 

    Thank you white saviour
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,572
    This is gonna get shut down the way it's going which would be a real shame...
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,276
    Oooh, Jimmy Jimmy!!!!
    Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy's had a fucking mare!
  • IanJRO
    IanJRO Posts: 691
    Pelling1993 said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    I don't think Matty Godden is Spanish, shall we stop singing olé?
    Brilliant!
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,971
    Pelling1993 said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

    1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

    Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

    This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

    Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

    2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

    You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

    I don't think Matty Godden is Spanish, shall we stop singing olé?
    It's actually Olay on account of his rigorous skincare regime

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