Millwall criticise media 'agenda'
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"You don’t have to be a racist, misogynistic, homophobic bloke with anger issues and a penchant for tragedy-chanting to feel at home at The Den. But it helps."
He hasn't held back there has he?!2 -
Obviously hasn't been to Leeds either.Chris_from_Sidcup said:"You don’t have to be a racist, misogynistic, homophobic bloke with anger issues and a penchant for tragedy-chanting to feel at home at The Den. But it helps."
He hasn't held back there has he?!0 -
The irony of the Daily Mail calling anyone racist.17
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Number One Stockport County, Selhurst Park (no sign of the Valley) in Top 20 hardly a world beating list.SporadicAddick said:The Daily Mail has fewer fans at The Den than on Charlton Life, but good to see them doubling down.
I've been to all 92 Football League grounds - these are the five WORST, writes OLIVER HOLT
- Find out which grounds you should only go to if you're a diehard stadium nerd - or need a Covid jab! These five are a mix of the harrowing and horrifying
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On Tuesday night, I'll take my place on the terraces at Harrogate Town’s Wetherby Road stadium for their match against Tranmere Rovers and, after a lifetime of trying, complete my set of each of the current 92 league grounds in the English game.
I’m a stadium nerd. I love grounds like they are people, their character and their quirks and their beauty and their architecture.
I’ve ranked my favourites from 1 to 92.
The best and the rest will come later but there are a handful I would happily never set foot in again.
92. The Den, Millwall
I’m banned from The Den at the moment, in a professional capacity anyway. I could still go in a personal capacity but, on balance, I think I’d rather not.
The Daily Mail has been told our reporters are not welcome at the club because we had the temerity to report on the horrendous challenge by Millwall goalkeeper Liam Roberts on Crystal Palace’s Jean-Philippe Mateta during the FA Cup tie at Selhurst Park a few weeks ago.
I’m banned from The Den at the moment, in a professional capacity anyway.
Let’s be honest about this: there are worse places to be banned from... being banned from The Den is the football equivalent of being banned from your local abattoir
Inside the ground, which is modern and neat and relatively characterless, the level of hatred for visiting supporters feels unusually visceral
Let’s be honest about this: there are worse places to be banned from. Being banned from The Den is the football equivalent of being banned from your local abattoir.
You don’t have to be a racist, misogynistic, homophobic bloke with anger issues and a penchant for tragedy-chanting to feel at home at The Den. But it helps.
And, yes, I know Millwall are trying to rebrand themselves a ‘family club’ now and the odd Tarquin and Tabitha stray across the county lines from Blackheath and Clapham to keep it real but that just makes The Den experience even worse.
The last time I went as a supporter was 15 years ago to watch Stockport County play there and the walk from South Bermondsey station to the away turnstiles was an eye-opener.
Not that there were any problems: even at Millwall, football has moved on since the 70s. But this still felt deeply dystopian: for their own safety, away fans walk to the ground through a long wire mesh cage that seems to have no end.
It felt like embarking on a tour of Jurassic Park: you know that if the fences fail, the dinosaurs are going to take a run at you.
Inside the ground, which is modern and neat and relatively characterless, the level of hatred for visiting supporters feels unusually visceral. It’s loud. I’ll give it that. It’s primeval.
It’s unreconstructed, which can be a good thing, too, and it breeds a sense of togetherness. If medievalism is your thing, you’re in for a treat. If not, give it a miss.
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Quelle surprise…Holt is a Stockport County fan.JustFloydRoad said:
Number One Stockport County, Selhurst Park (no sign of the Valley) in Top 20 hardly a world beating list.SporadicAddick said:The Daily Mail has fewer fans at The Den than on Charlton Life, but good to see them doubling down.
I've been to all 92 Football League grounds - these are the five WORST, writes OLIVER HOLT
- Find out which grounds you should only go to if you're a diehard stadium nerd - or need a Covid jab! These five are a mix of the harrowing and horrifying
- Join Mail+ to read Oliver Holt's unmissable column every Monday, plus the full ranking next week including which team claims top spot and where your team is
On Tuesday night, I'll take my place on the terraces at Harrogate Town’s Wetherby Road stadium for their match against Tranmere Rovers and, after a lifetime of trying, complete my set of each of the current 92 league grounds in the English game.
I’m a stadium nerd. I love grounds like they are people, their character and their quirks and their beauty and their architecture.
I’ve ranked my favourites from 1 to 92.
The best and the rest will come later but there are a handful I would happily never set foot in again.
92. The Den, Millwall
I’m banned from The Den at the moment, in a professional capacity anyway. I could still go in a personal capacity but, on balance, I think I’d rather not.
The Daily Mail has been told our reporters are not welcome at the club because we had the temerity to report on the horrendous challenge by Millwall goalkeeper Liam Roberts on Crystal Palace’s Jean-Philippe Mateta during the FA Cup tie at Selhurst Park a few weeks ago.
I’m banned from The Den at the moment, in a professional capacity anyway.
Let’s be honest about this: there are worse places to be banned from... being banned from The Den is the football equivalent of being banned from your local abattoir
Inside the ground, which is modern and neat and relatively characterless, the level of hatred for visiting supporters feels unusually visceral
Let’s be honest about this: there are worse places to be banned from. Being banned from The Den is the football equivalent of being banned from your local abattoir.
You don’t have to be a racist, misogynistic, homophobic bloke with anger issues and a penchant for tragedy-chanting to feel at home at The Den. But it helps.
And, yes, I know Millwall are trying to rebrand themselves a ‘family club’ now and the odd Tarquin and Tabitha stray across the county lines from Blackheath and Clapham to keep it real but that just makes The Den experience even worse.
The last time I went as a supporter was 15 years ago to watch Stockport County play there and the walk from South Bermondsey station to the away turnstiles was an eye-opener.
Not that there were any problems: even at Millwall, football has moved on since the 70s. But this still felt deeply dystopian: for their own safety, away fans walk to the ground through a long wire mesh cage that seems to have no end.
It felt like embarking on a tour of Jurassic Park: you know that if the fences fail, the dinosaurs are going to take a run at you.
Inside the ground, which is modern and neat and relatively characterless, the level of hatred for visiting supporters feels unusually visceral. It’s loud. I’ll give it that. It’s primeval.
It’s unreconstructed, which can be a good thing, too, and it breeds a sense of togetherness. If medievalism is your thing, you’re in for a treat. If not, give it a miss.
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I met him once at the Valley when we were still in the Prem.
Btw his mother was Emily Bishop in Coronation Street.1 -
He put the Valley at 43JustFloydRoad said:
Number One Stockport County, Selhurst Park (no sign of the Valley) in Top 20 hardly a world beating list.SporadicAddick said:The Daily Mail has fewer fans at The Den than on Charlton Life, but good to see them doubling down.
I've been to all 92 Football League grounds - these are the five WORST, writes OLIVER HOLT
- Find out which grounds you should only go to if you're a diehard stadium nerd - or need a Covid jab! These five are a mix of the harrowing and horrifying
- Join Mail+ to read Oliver Holt's unmissable column every Monday, plus the full ranking next week including which team claims top spot and where your team is
On Tuesday night, I'll take my place on the terraces at Harrogate Town’s Wetherby Road stadium for their match against Tranmere Rovers and, after a lifetime of trying, complete my set of each of the current 92 league grounds in the English game.
I’m a stadium nerd. I love grounds like they are people, their character and their quirks and their beauty and their architecture.
I’ve ranked my favourites from 1 to 92.
The best and the rest will come later but there are a handful I would happily never set foot in again.
92. The Den, Millwall
I’m banned from The Den at the moment, in a professional capacity anyway. I could still go in a personal capacity but, on balance, I think I’d rather not.
The Daily Mail has been told our reporters are not welcome at the club because we had the temerity to report on the horrendous challenge by Millwall goalkeeper Liam Roberts on Crystal Palace’s Jean-Philippe Mateta during the FA Cup tie at Selhurst Park a few weeks ago.
I’m banned from The Den at the moment, in a professional capacity anyway.
Let’s be honest about this: there are worse places to be banned from... being banned from The Den is the football equivalent of being banned from your local abattoir
Inside the ground, which is modern and neat and relatively characterless, the level of hatred for visiting supporters feels unusually visceral
Let’s be honest about this: there are worse places to be banned from. Being banned from The Den is the football equivalent of being banned from your local abattoir.
You don’t have to be a racist, misogynistic, homophobic bloke with anger issues and a penchant for tragedy-chanting to feel at home at The Den. But it helps.
And, yes, I know Millwall are trying to rebrand themselves a ‘family club’ now and the odd Tarquin and Tabitha stray across the county lines from Blackheath and Clapham to keep it real but that just makes The Den experience even worse.
The last time I went as a supporter was 15 years ago to watch Stockport County play there and the walk from South Bermondsey station to the away turnstiles was an eye-opener.
Not that there were any problems: even at Millwall, football has moved on since the 70s. But this still felt deeply dystopian: for their own safety, away fans walk to the ground through a long wire mesh cage that seems to have no end.
It felt like embarking on a tour of Jurassic Park: you know that if the fences fail, the dinosaurs are going to take a run at you.
Inside the ground, which is modern and neat and relatively characterless, the level of hatred for visiting supporters feels unusually visceral. It’s loud. I’ll give it that. It’s primeval.
It’s unreconstructed, which can be a good thing, too, and it breeds a sense of togetherness. If medievalism is your thing, you’re in for a treat. If not, give it a miss.
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One of the best claims to fame I’ve ever heard, “I’ve met the son of Emily Bishop from Coronation Street”Starinnaddick said:I met him once at the Valley when we were still in the Prem.
Btw his mother was Emily Bishop in Coronation Street.
I am suspicious though as his surname would surely be Bishop too…4 -
Ignorance is bliss. LolFumbluff said:
One of the best claims to fame I’ve ever heard, “I’ve met the son of Emily Bishop from Coronation Street”Starinnaddick said:I met him once at the Valley when we were still in the Prem.
Btw his mother was Emily Bishop in Coronation Street.
I am suspicious though as his surname would surely be Bishop too…0 -
Just so along it is above the Priestfield Stadium idc.JohnnyH2 said:
He put the Valley at 43JustFloydRoad said:
Number One Stockport County, Selhurst Park (no sign of the Valley) in Top 20 hardly a world beating list.SporadicAddick said:The Daily Mail has fewer fans at The Den than on Charlton Life, but good to see them doubling down.
I've been to all 92 Football League grounds - these are the five WORST, writes OLIVER HOLT
- Find out which grounds you should only go to if you're a diehard stadium nerd - or need a Covid jab! These five are a mix of the harrowing and horrifying
- Join Mail+ to read Oliver Holt's unmissable column every Monday, plus the full ranking next week including which team claims top spot and where your team is
On Tuesday night, I'll take my place on the terraces at Harrogate Town’s Wetherby Road stadium for their match against Tranmere Rovers and, after a lifetime of trying, complete my set of each of the current 92 league grounds in the English game.
I’m a stadium nerd. I love grounds like they are people, their character and their quirks and their beauty and their architecture.
I’ve ranked my favourites from 1 to 92.
The best and the rest will come later but there are a handful I would happily never set foot in again.
92. The Den, Millwall
I’m banned from The Den at the moment, in a professional capacity anyway. I could still go in a personal capacity but, on balance, I think I’d rather not.
The Daily Mail has been told our reporters are not welcome at the club because we had the temerity to report on the horrendous challenge by Millwall goalkeeper Liam Roberts on Crystal Palace’s Jean-Philippe Mateta during the FA Cup tie at Selhurst Park a few weeks ago.
I’m banned from The Den at the moment, in a professional capacity anyway.
Let’s be honest about this: there are worse places to be banned from... being banned from The Den is the football equivalent of being banned from your local abattoir
Inside the ground, which is modern and neat and relatively characterless, the level of hatred for visiting supporters feels unusually visceral
Let’s be honest about this: there are worse places to be banned from. Being banned from The Den is the football equivalent of being banned from your local abattoir.
You don’t have to be a racist, misogynistic, homophobic bloke with anger issues and a penchant for tragedy-chanting to feel at home at The Den. But it helps.
And, yes, I know Millwall are trying to rebrand themselves a ‘family club’ now and the odd Tarquin and Tabitha stray across the county lines from Blackheath and Clapham to keep it real but that just makes The Den experience even worse.
The last time I went as a supporter was 15 years ago to watch Stockport County play there and the walk from South Bermondsey station to the away turnstiles was an eye-opener.
Not that there were any problems: even at Millwall, football has moved on since the 70s. But this still felt deeply dystopian: for their own safety, away fans walk to the ground through a long wire mesh cage that seems to have no end.
It felt like embarking on a tour of Jurassic Park: you know that if the fences fail, the dinosaurs are going to take a run at you.
Inside the ground, which is modern and neat and relatively characterless, the level of hatred for visiting supporters feels unusually visceral. It’s loud. I’ll give it that. It’s primeval.
It’s unreconstructed, which can be a good thing, too, and it breeds a sense of togetherness. If medievalism is your thing, you’re in for a treat. If not, give it a miss.
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I started at 92 and worked down his list. It started so well, with the Den then all of the soulless identikit bowls ranked poorly. However, the list lost all credibility when The Valley ranked where it did. In terms of history, design, location, atmosphere etc (some are critical but it's consistently rated as many fans favourite awayday in London for a host of reasons) it should have been within the top 25 or 30.
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Rose tinted glasses mate?SporadicAddick said:I started at 92 and worked down his list. It started so well, with the Den then all of the soulless identikit bowls ranked poorly. However, the list lost all credibility when The Valley ranked where it did. In terms of history, design, location, atmosphere etc (some are critical but it's consistently rated as many fans favourite awayday in London for a host of reasons) it should have been within the top 25 or 30.
The pot holes in the car park and chip portion sizes would automatically place it in the low 80's...3 -
I thought I was being harsh, I would actually put The Valley in the top 20...soapy_jones said:
Rose tinted glasses mate?SporadicAddick said:I started at 92 and worked down his list. It started so well, with the Den then all of the soulless identikit bowls ranked poorly. However, the list lost all credibility when The Valley ranked where it did. In terms of history, design, location, atmosphere etc (some are critical but it's consistently rated as many fans favourite awayday in London for a host of reasons) it should have been within the top 25 or 30.
The pot holes in the car park and chip portion sizes would automatically place it in the low 80's...
The top and tail of the list were clearly nonsense. No way is The Den the worst (realistically it should come about 75th - dull identikit architecture, average atmosphere, poor away fan experience, no history whatsoever, limited local pre match options), and no way is Stockport the best (maybe 70th) but aside from the authors two personal picks at the top and the bottom, the rest should have been "better". I think we'd all agree that a list that has Selhurst at 18 is nonsense.1 -
Millwall have been charged for homophobic chants aimed at Crystal Palace left-back Ben Chilwell during their FA Cup meeting last month.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cwynne2xzl4o
https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/april/10/club-statement/0 -
Millwall are considering taking legal action after Westminster City Council used the Championship club's badge on an illustration of a Ku Klux Klan member.
The image appeared in a children's anti-racism booklet distributed in primary schools in the local area about the life of former footballer Paul Canoville, who was the first black player to play for Chelsea.
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Quite ironic when chelsea had a huge national front and combat 18 following. I think I recall canoville recalling one of his own fans wearing a pillow case fashioned like a klan mask.JustFloydRoad said:Millwall are considering taking legal action after Westminster City Council used the Championship club's badge on an illustration of a Ku Klux Klan member.
The image appeared in a children's anti-racism booklet distributed in primary schools in the local area about the life of former footballer Paul Canoville, who was the first black player to play for Chelsea.
Very little love for millwall but very wrong to slander them as racist club and certainly so these days.
They will have racists in their fanbase but that goes for every club.
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Just seen the offending image and it's awful.JustFloydRoad said:Millwall are considering taking legal action after Westminster City Council used the Championship club's badge on an illustration of a Ku Klux Klan member.
The image appeared in a children's anti-racism booklet distributed in primary schools in the local area about the life of former footballer Paul Canoville, who was the first black player to play for Chelsea.
Say or think what you want about Millwall but they are not that club anymore, albeit they do have more muppets then most.
Personally, I think Millwall should go legal and get the people who are behind it to go on one of those inclusivity courses13 -
Pretty incredible that the image made it as far as it did, as there's no way the leaflet would get that far with only 1 person reviewing it.5
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The luvvies at Westminster Council should be made to attend a game at the Den.
It might expand their vocabulary.3 -
I’m sorry I may get banned for this but I don’t really care, but sick of sets of fans being generalised and Millwall definitely get tarnished with this brush because they are the easy target.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Quite ironic when chelsea had a huge national front and combat 18 following. I think I recall canoville recalling one of his own fans wearing a pillow case fashioned like a klan mask.JustFloydRoad said:Millwall are considering taking legal action after Westminster City Council used the Championship club's badge on an illustration of a Ku Klux Klan member.
The image appeared in a children's anti-racism booklet distributed in primary schools in the local area about the life of former footballer Paul Canoville, who was the first black player to play for Chelsea.
Very little love for millwall but very wrong to slander them as racist club and certainly so these days.
They will have racists in their fanbase but that goes for every club.On the flip side Millwall will have certain individual fans who are happy with our immigration policy allowing military aged men from afar into this country who have no respect for our culture, values and female population.Same difference!1 -
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Not sure why you've quoted my post for that? I was pointing out that it is very wrong for entire fanbases/ clubs to be tarnished and pointing out it's out of order against Millwall. (Unless I'm misreading your post).2
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Shut up, trainspotter.cafc_se7 said:
I’m sorry I may get banned for this but I don’t really care, but sick of sets of fans being generalised and Millwall definitely get tarnished with this brush because they are the easy target.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Quite ironic when chelsea had a huge national front and combat 18 following. I think I recall canoville recalling one of his own fans wearing a pillow case fashioned like a klan mask.JustFloydRoad said:Millwall are considering taking legal action after Westminster City Council used the Championship club's badge on an illustration of a Ku Klux Klan member.
The image appeared in a children's anti-racism booklet distributed in primary schools in the local area about the life of former footballer Paul Canoville, who was the first black player to play for Chelsea.
Very little love for millwall but very wrong to slander them as racist club and certainly so these days.
They will have racists in their fanbase but that goes for every club.On the flip side Millwall will have certain individual fans who are happy with our immigration policy allowing military aged men from afar into this country who have no respect for our culture, values and female population.Same difference!0 -
You're not misreading it. I've read it three times and it still doesn't make any sense.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Not sure why you've quoted my post for that? I was pointing out that it is very wrong for entire fanbases/ clubs to be tarnished and pointing out it's out of order against Millwall. (Unless I'm misreading your post).
But then we all know that football fans are illiterate morons, init bruv?
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It’s like a Millwall love in this thread.Yes, I like most have Millwall mates/colleagues/acquaintances, but outside of those, I’ve mostly encountered them as a certain type of people, normally living up to the traditional stereotypes.8
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Well thats all right then.If we've all met some racist millwall trogs its absolutely fine to put the clubs badge on a Klan outfit.Put a flat cap on the hood, pint of lager in hand, a snug XXXL stone island top and flecks of spittle covering the surrounding area while shouting and waving the drink free fist at a 10 year old and you've nailed it though tbf.2
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Specifically from a Charlton view, it is amazing work from Westminster Council.
I've also read the KKK are seeking legal advice after being associated with Millwall.17 -
Just when they were trying to turn around their reputation then this comes out..Indeed a sad day for the KKK5
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I have read Paul Canovilles autobiography..its a shame that the local authority focused on just this as its a very good read.1
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I think he just wanted to get his little bit of anti asylum seeker propoganda into the thread.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Not sure why you've quoted my post for that? I was pointing out that it is very wrong for entire fanbases/ clubs to be tarnished and pointing out it's out of order against Millwall. (Unless I'm misreading your post).2
