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  • Has anybody got a water meter ? Apparently in certain areas where we are ‘seriously water-stressed’ they are going to be compulsory. Just wondered how your monthly bills compare to the set charge every month that we've had up to now.
    we've had one for a while and our bills went down quote a lot
    So did ours. But there’s only 2 of us now, over the years we managed to convince 3 kids they be better moving out ;-)
    Changing the locks gives them a clue. 
  • Our rateable value bill was £300pa. When we got a meter it dropped to around £90pa. 
  • Rudders22 said:
    I need to get a meter installed. I am being charged £60 a month. I live on my own. I don't drink tap water or drink coffee or tea. I drink coke. I don't have a bath every day and do my washing once a month. They have offered me a metter when i called them a couple of weeks ago and said I would think about it. I called TW to change my payments dates as I now get paid on the last day of the month instead of 22nd. 
    It's people on their own who are being ripped off severely.  This is just as good a reason as to why meters should be compulsory,  as well as the fact of water scarcity. This could be enforced for one bed properties for example with no need to leave it to 'consumer choice'.  
    No one is bringing ripped off. 

    The push to meters has been happening for many years. 
    not with a meter - you consumption, or lack of it, means you pay less. 

    I appreciate it is only a small number of responses, but CL are quite a varied lot in terms of households and the comments are a meter mean smaller bill
    Exactly. I agree. The option to have a meter is not new is my point. 

    It’s always been advocated for smaller households. 

    yes, it is generally known that water meters can save some people a lot of cash but then there are those that hesitate and wonder (sometimes for years), if they will be better off or not, when they patently would, yet TW just let them carry on wondering. That is a rip off in this privatised free market where individuals like Rudders22 and plenty of others are left well out of pocket to the company's advantage. They have the data on which households would benefit and should install a meter to those.
    I don’t think that’s true. 

    Lots of activity in the past to get people on meters and think it may even be mandatory upon moving home. 

    Some object to the switch through misplaced beliefs. 

    Pretty sure all over your bills too. 

    I think on reflection it would be very hard to mandate that someone has to have a meter. I believe there are targets or objectives set in conjunction with Ofwat for water companies to install meters, or try to install a certain number of meters within a given period. If a homeowner is dead against it, apart from cutting them off, then financial penalties arise, still to the company's benefit.

    A quick google tells me new builds in London have to have meters, and there's also compulsory metering in other areas facing up to water scarcity
    Not that hard, clearly - it's happened to me.
  • Off_it said:
    Rudders22 said:
    I need to get a meter installed. I am being charged £60 a month. I live on my own. I don't drink tap water or drink coffee or tea. I drink coke. I don't have a bath every day and do my washing once a month. They have offered me a metter when i called them a couple of weeks ago and said I would think about it. I called TW to change my payments dates as I now get paid on the last day of the month instead of 22nd. 
    It's people on their own who are being ripped off severely.  This is just as good a reason as to why meters should be compulsory,  as well as the fact of water scarcity. This could be enforced for one bed properties for example with no need to leave it to 'consumer choice'.  
    No one is bringing ripped off. 

    The push to meters has been happening for many years. 
    not with a meter - you consumption, or lack of it, means you pay less. 

    I appreciate it is only a small number of responses, but CL are quite a varied lot in terms of households and the comments are a meter mean smaller bill
    Exactly. I agree. The option to have a meter is not new is my point. 

    It’s always been advocated for smaller households. 

    yes, it is generally known that water meters can save some people a lot of cash but then there are those that hesitate and wonder (sometimes for years), if they will be better off or not, when they patently would, yet TW just let them carry on wondering. That is a rip off in this privatised free market where individuals like Rudders22 and plenty of others are left well out of pocket to the company's advantage. They have the data on which households would benefit and should install a meter to those.
    I don’t think that’s true. 

    Lots of activity in the past to get people on meters and think it may even be mandatory upon moving home. 

    Some object to the switch through misplaced beliefs. 

    Pretty sure all over your bills too. 

    I think on reflection it would be very hard to mandate that someone has to have a meter. I believe there are targets or objectives set in conjunction with Ofwat for water companies to install meters, or try to install a certain number of meters within a given period. If a homeowner is dead against it, apart from cutting them off, then financial penalties arise, still to the company's benefit.

    A quick google tells me new builds in London have to have meters, and there's also compulsory metering in other areas facing up to water scarcity
    Not that hard, clearly - it's happened to me.
    As it’s in the piping outside one’s property boundary, I don’t think there’s anything one can do to stop it. 
  • It’s the gas and electric smart meters that are a waste of time / utterly pointless other than saving you entering the readings on a website 
  • I was made to have one put in last year and it caused a leak which TW refused to take responsibility for.
  • I don’t think I have ever noticed any difference between having any type of smart meter than not having one. Having any meter is not to my advantage, I think it’s more likely the providers cost savings. 
  • I don’t think I have ever noticed any difference between having any type of smart meter than not having one. Having any meter is not to my advantage, I think it’s more likely the providers cost savings. 
    hasn't your water bill gone down compared to before having a meter?
  • I'm really struggling to understand why some people seem to automatically correlate smart meters to lower bills.

    Sure, for some people that will be the case. But for others it won't be. That's surely not too difficult to accept, is it? 
  • Off_it said:
    Rudders22 said:
    I need to get a meter installed. I am being charged £60 a month. I live on my own. I don't drink tap water or drink coffee or tea. I drink coke. I don't have a bath every day and do my washing once a month. They have offered me a metter when i called them a couple of weeks ago and said I would think about it. I called TW to change my payments dates as I now get paid on the last day of the month instead of 22nd. 
    It's people on their own who are being ripped off severely.  This is just as good a reason as to why meters should be compulsory,  as well as the fact of water scarcity. This could be enforced for one bed properties for example with no need to leave it to 'consumer choice'.  
    No one is bringing ripped off. 

    The push to meters has been happening for many years. 
    not with a meter - you consumption, or lack of it, means you pay less. 

    I appreciate it is only a small number of responses, but CL are quite a varied lot in terms of households and the comments are a meter mean smaller bill
    Exactly. I agree. The option to have a meter is not new is my point. 

    It’s always been advocated for smaller households. 

    yes, it is generally known that water meters can save some people a lot of cash but then there are those that hesitate and wonder (sometimes for years), if they will be better off or not, when they patently would, yet TW just let them carry on wondering. That is a rip off in this privatised free market where individuals like Rudders22 and plenty of others are left well out of pocket to the company's advantage. They have the data on which households would benefit and should install a meter to those.
    I don’t think that’s true. 

    Lots of activity in the past to get people on meters and think it may even be mandatory upon moving home. 

    Some object to the switch through misplaced beliefs. 

    Pretty sure all over your bills too. 

    I think on reflection it would be very hard to mandate that someone has to have a meter. I believe there are targets or objectives set in conjunction with Ofwat for water companies to install meters, or try to install a certain number of meters within a given period. If a homeowner is dead against it, apart from cutting them off, then financial penalties arise, still to the company's benefit.

    A quick google tells me new builds in London have to have meters, and there's also compulsory metering in other areas facing up to water scarcity
    Not that hard, clearly - it's happened to me.
    As it’s in the piping outside one’s property boundary, I don’t think there’s anything one can do to stop it. 
    Absolutely. Nothing you can do about it. They've got you over a barrell, the pants are down and there's no lube. All you can do is brace yourself. 
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  • I don’t think I have ever noticed any difference between having any type of smart meter than not having one. Having any meter is not to my advantage, I think it’s more likely the providers cost savings. 
    hasn't your water bill gone down compared to before having a meter?
    I moved into this house 12 years ago. The old fellow who had  it before me and lived alone had the meter fitted. It’s probably been 13/14 years since I just paid the rateable charge. The house I have now has more than one bathroom and the garden is bigger so I don’t really have anything to compare with. I did have gas and electric meters fitted in this house but there’s no way they have any influence over fuel used. They just save me the hassle of logging into my account and giving a reading. 
  • Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    Rudders22 said:
    I need to get a meter installed. I am being charged £60 a month. I live on my own. I don't drink tap water or drink coffee or tea. I drink coke. I don't have a bath every day and do my washing once a month. They have offered me a metter when i called them a couple of weeks ago and said I would think about it. I called TW to change my payments dates as I now get paid on the last day of the month instead of 22nd. 
    It's people on their own who are being ripped off severely.  This is just as good a reason as to why meters should be compulsory,  as well as the fact of water scarcity. This could be enforced for one bed properties for example with no need to leave it to 'consumer choice'.  
    No one is bringing ripped off. 

    The push to meters has been happening for many years. 
    not with a meter - you consumption, or lack of it, means you pay less. 

    I appreciate it is only a small number of responses, but CL are quite a varied lot in terms of households and the comments are a meter mean smaller bill
    Exactly. I agree. The option to have a meter is not new is my point. 

    It’s always been advocated for smaller households. 

    yes, it is generally known that water meters can save some people a lot of cash but then there are those that hesitate and wonder (sometimes for years), if they will be better off or not, when they patently would, yet TW just let them carry on wondering. That is a rip off in this privatised free market where individuals like Rudders22 and plenty of others are left well out of pocket to the company's advantage. They have the data on which households would benefit and should install a meter to those.
    I don’t think that’s true. 

    Lots of activity in the past to get people on meters and think it may even be mandatory upon moving home. 

    Some object to the switch through misplaced beliefs. 

    Pretty sure all over your bills too. 

    I think on reflection it would be very hard to mandate that someone has to have a meter. I believe there are targets or objectives set in conjunction with Ofwat for water companies to install meters, or try to install a certain number of meters within a given period. If a homeowner is dead against it, apart from cutting them off, then financial penalties arise, still to the company's benefit.

    A quick google tells me new builds in London have to have meters, and there's also compulsory metering in other areas facing up to water scarcity
    Not that hard, clearly - it's happened to me.
    As it’s in the piping outside one’s property boundary, I don’t think there’s anything one can do to stop it. 
    Absolutely. Nothing you can do about it. They've got you over a barrell, the pants are down and there's no lube. All you can do is brace yourself. 

  • Applied for a water meter years ago but as we're on a shared supply with our next door neighbour we can't have an external one.

    Can't have an internal one either as the supply enters the house too near to our downstairs toilet. 

  • If you can't have a water meter installed, you'll likely be charged an assessed charge based on factors like property size, occupancy, or a fixed rate. Water companies offer this alternative when meter installation is impractical or too expensive. You should compare the assessed charge with your current bill to see if it's cheaper, says Ofwat. 
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