POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Northampton Town: Good Friday 18th April 2025 KO 15:00

Hal1x said:

I thought their 18 was a gobby shit of the first order.

Paul O'Grady in football kit

oohaahmortimer said:

Lloyd Jones was motm in the lounges and I took a pic of him with my mate and son and said he’s our player of the year but before that I harshly said he was brilliant today and most of the rest were shit .
this is all too stressful, it’s the cricket season let’s go up automatically , I feel sick about Monday , it’s all just body popping .
id take second spot next season in league one if it was offered to me now .
nice to see The Valley busy ‘where were you when we were shit ‘
Always been a fan of Berry and Godden clever clever players .
if only the boat had been pushed out a tad further in January with some proper signings than the two guff loanees we may have been nearer to automatics .
I’ll never be satisfied with league one third tier crap, please release us from this footballing hell 

I think Gilbert has been   good  to excellent in his brief outings. But doesn't suit NJ for some reason. Possibly because he doesn't have the intensity of effort,  his attribute is  quality of pass than others, set piece delivery etc

I blame that fan (after the 5-0 victory) that he wanted more 2-0/2-1 games, for jinxing the home tie.

If we rock up (hopefully) at Wembley and win 4-0 I am not complaining.

Positive though 20,198 in attendance well done 👏🏻 

cafcsinger said:

Why wasn’t McIntyre sent off? Deliberately stopping a clear chance  

Really???🤔 

KingKinsella said:

Dazzler21 said:

soapboxsam said:

 Good call to replace McIntyre who made two big mistakes, one leading to the penalty and a miss kick back pass that we managed to survive.

 I literally said to the guy next to me as McIntyre went for the falling ball, he's gonna scuff this... And boom he scuffs it. Poor player. Not sure what he adds. 

Puzzled by McIntyre inclusion as well. Alex Mitchell must have turned into complete mess not to play. Also our academy players- there must be as good/better players there

I'd like to think that McIntyre's lack of game time over the season is the reason for his inconsistency. At times yesterday, he and Jones were going for the same ball and yet posters on here were stating that McIntyre favours his left foot, so him replacing Gillesphey should have been seamless, it wasn't. As for Mitchell's exclusion, he wouldn't have replaced Gillesphey yesterday, as Mitchell is definitely right footed. Kayne Ramsay now stands in the way of Mitchell and next season there will be two more contenders for that role, Josh Laqeretabua and Zach Mitchell. 

eastterrace6168 said:

Can't understand this clamour complaining that McIntyre wasn't sent off, isn't it enough that half of Northampton are doing their bit on the subject already, (I assume)...
We won the bloody match, it was tight at times and too close for comfort, but come on now rejoice we are in the playoffs at least and looking forward to stuffing Wycombe and Wrexham, not so much of this negativity please...🙄

It's sooooooo boring, we won, we got the 3 points? Who cares about why our OWN PLAYER wasn't sent off?!?!?!

The key decision of the game, namely the Tom McIntyre incident, hardly got a mention on this thread before today. Had TM got sent off, the roof on this thread would have exploded! The manager of  Northampton was cautioned for dissent for claiming overvigorously that TM should have been sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity. The Laws of the Game (Law 12) is not descriptive enough to make such a decision as definitive, so the decision becomes one of subjective.

For what it is worth, let me give my reasons why I support the retention of TM on the field of play. Normally a player considered to be in a goal scoring opportunity is one who (a) has control of the ball (usually with his feet) and (b) is at an angle to the goal whereby he can see most of the space between the posts, as opposed to a player wide of the goal, in a winger-type position, and the gets fouled by either the last outfield defender or the goalkeeper. In the case in question the player behind TM neither had the ball and was not in control of it. Also, it is very subjective to establish that the forward would have got a clean header and that he only had a limited amount of the goal to aim at. He was however very close to the goal. Given the amount of doubt (in my mind), I cannot see how the referee could have been sure that the criteria could be met to justify the sending off. Any alternative views, please?

This situation raises to other points: (1) there were loads of people on here who thought that the referee favoured Northampton and at least one used the word "bias". The one key decision in the game, which was one that could have impacted upon the game, was given in Charlton's favour; the other decisions such as time wasting are almost inconsequential compared with the potential sending off. Thus the decision of favouring Northampton is indefensible. (2) the people on here who marked the referee very low, presumably did so on the basis that, in their opinion, the referee got the key decision wrong and that TM should have been sent off. Otherwise to recognise that the key decision was right, but the mark  awarded to the referee is low, is indefensible. 

Have I  got things wrong in my thinking?

killerandflash said:

Bailey said:

KingKinsella said:

Dazzler21 said:

soapboxsam said:

 Good call to replace McIntyre who made two big mistakes, one leading to the penalty and a miss kick back pass that we managed to survive.

 I literally said to the guy next to me as McIntyre went for the falling ball, he's gonna scuff this... And boom he scuffs it. Poor player. Not sure what he adds. 

Puzzled by McIntyre inclusion as well. Alex Mitchell must have turned into complete mess not to play. Also our academy players- there must be as good/better players there

I'd like to think that McIntyre's lack of game time over the season is the reason for his inconsistency. At times yesterday, he and Jones were going for the same ball and yet posters on here were stating that McIntyre favours his left foot, so him replacing Gillesphey should have been seamless, it wasn't. As for Mitchell's exclusion, he wouldn't have replaced Gillesphey yesterday, as Mitchell is definitely right footed. Kayne Ramsay now stands in the way of Mitchell and next season there will be two more contenders for that role, Josh Laqeretabua and Zach Mitchell. 

Mitchell can easily play the left CB role that McIntyre played. Just as the left footed McIntyre played the right CB role when Jones was absent.

He looks uncomfortable enough on the right or in the middle. Which is why he isn’t near the team at the moment. If Gillesphey and McIntyre were both unavailable then I’m pretty sure Edwards would be the next choice with Watson coming in at wing back 

NabySarr said:

KingKinsella said:

Solidgone said:

What’s happened to our press and urgency?
And why are we returning to hoof ball?

1. we were 2nd best to Northampton in pressing and getting knockdowns tackles etc.
That is the main asset  of our team , on the day Northampton were better at it.

2.Hoofball never went away, it's there every game. I was shocked that we played 2 fluent passing moves in 2nd half. Thats rare

We do try and play more now but whenever we need a goal or struggle to play through a team we return to hoofball and it has usually worked 

It’s not hoofball when it’s the right ball! 

The penalty incident was a clear handball - no need for Mr Magoo on VAR to give that one - but could you claim it was denying a clear goal-scoring opportunity?

You couldn't be certain that the Northampton player would have even got to the ball let alone score and given the flight of the ball and where the incident took place the best that could have happened for the oppo was a header or hook-back across goal.

If anything it was the handball that GAVE them the goal-scoring opportunity!

I would say that one person who thought it was a goal scoring opportunity was McIntyre, otherwise he wouldn't have handled it. Personally there is enough doubt. I don't think he would have but Mannion could have come out to it also.