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Eni Aluko v Ian Wright

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  • Which side of the fence are you on?
    I'm in the Wright camp. 
    Read what she actually said. 
  • edited April 24
    We need to make sure women are not being blocked to have a pathway into broadcasting into the women's game. That is what was said.

    I wish she did work with the Charlton (she did play for us, and potentially could be inducted to our hall of fame after all) Community Trust and said this at a Women in broadcasting event then on a standard radio show, then it wouldn't seem less so directed at Ian Wright.

    Ian (despite him being Palace) is an advocate for Women sport (encouraging Women to play the game and make the Women sport more visible), and is a famous name (that is why he gets the job).

    The terms seems broadly at male presenters (working on women's broadcasting) in general than a jab at Ian. This seems a theme in the Women's game at the moment- with male (WSL) Managers saying Women should be in their job.
  • edited April 24
    Seems she's making a reasonable point about the history of commentary in the women's game based on her experience and in the aftermath of the case against Barton. I think it's disingenuous to make it her versus Wright.  He was used as an example that it seems she herself didn't cite but the radio4 interviewer did.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgkg8kjlp80o

    Then you have the daily mail sharpening the situation as a bust up as they are prone to do, and a pile on on here. A lot about nothing much imo, and good luck to her in making her point, using her platform, and earning a living.
    I was certainly not intending to be disingenuous. I asked which side of the fence you were on  meaning who did you prefer as a pundit. As on all threads you will get personal opinions. 
    Sorry I read it as what is better score in a cup final for Charlton or a bunch of goals for Palace. 🤪
  • Wright is my favourite Gooner by a country mile (if I can say such a thing!)

    The female Sol Campbell 
    I actually came to say this!

    So, I've got a novel idea.  Why dont all the women pundits doing mens football stick to doing the womens football? they'll get more opportunities and then that'll free up spaces for men doing more mens football.

    Everyone's a winner?  apart from Aluko of course.
  • JohnBoyUK said:
    Wright is my favourite Gooner by a country mile (if I can say such a thing!)

    The female Sol Campbell 
    I actually came to say this!

    So, I've got a novel idea.  Why dont all the women pundits doing mens football stick to doing the womens football? they'll get more opportunities and then that'll free up spaces for men doing more mens football.

    Everyone's a winner?  apart from Aluko of course.
    Can we get rid of Rio Ferdinand completely though please? 
  • edited 7:51AM
    Can he go as a pair with Mccoist please.
  • Aluko is an absolute fool. Calling a guy out who has been at the forefront from a presenter perspective as really pushing the women's game is utterly ridiculous. In a different context of course, she is basically saying the same in reverse as Joey Barton. Men shouldn't be in the women's game. When Joey said the same he was slaughtered. Fyi I think JB is a massive tool, but just pointing that out
  • edited 8:09AM
    CAFCDAZ said:
    Aluko is an absolute fool. Calling a guy out who has been at the forefront from a presenter perspective as really pushing the women's game is utterly ridiculous. In a different context of course, she is basically saying the same in reverse as Joey Barton. Men shouldn't be in the women's game. When Joey said the same he was slaughtered. Fyi I think JB is a massive tool, but just pointing that out
     Given she mentions that the interviewer mentioned Ian Wright, can you tell me where she’s “called him out” here please? Thanks in advance.


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  • Cloudworm said:
    She's Charlton, he's Palace. What's wrong with you all? Could it be a touch of misogyny maybe?
    No . She’s just an awful pundit and he isn’t . 
  • I mean she definitely hasn't called him out or blamed him for anything specifically anyway. She literally only used his name because the interviewer did so first.

    If you have issues with her as pundit in her own right then that's fair but a lot of the opprobrium is being thrown at her for something she didn't even do.
  • She could come out and say Charlton are the bollocks, Nathan Jones is god and the reds are going up, I’d still think she’s an absolute tit.
    My mates say all those things and they’re all wankers 
  • Her apology seems pretty sincere and you’d hope will put this to bed. 
  • West2003 said:
    CAFCDAZ said:
    Aluko is an absolute fool. Calling a guy out who has been at the forefront from a presenter perspective as really pushing the women's game is utterly ridiculous. In a different context of course, she is basically saying the same in reverse as Joey Barton. Men shouldn't be in the women's game. When Joey said the same he was slaughtered. Fyi I think JB is a massive tool, but just pointing that out
     Given she mentions that the interviewer mentioned Ian Wright, can you tell me where she’s “called him out” here please? Thanks in advance.


    There are some not so subtle digs in that quote tbh!
  • YTS1978 said:
    West2003 said:
    CAFCDAZ said:
    Aluko is an absolute fool. Calling a guy out who has been at the forefront from a presenter perspective as really pushing the women's game is utterly ridiculous. In a different context of course, she is basically saying the same in reverse as Joey Barton. Men shouldn't be in the women's game. When Joey said the same he was slaughtered. Fyi I think JB is a massive tool, but just pointing that out
     Given she mentions that the interviewer mentioned Ian Wright, can you tell me where she’s “called him out” here please? Thanks in advance.


    There are some not so subtle digs in that quote tbh!
    Aren't men commentating on the women's game the same as women are commentating on the men's game though?
  • YTS1978 said:
    West2003 said:
    CAFCDAZ said:
    Aluko is an absolute fool. Calling a guy out who has been at the forefront from a presenter perspective as really pushing the women's game is utterly ridiculous. In a different context of course, she is basically saying the same in reverse as Joey Barton. Men shouldn't be in the women's game. When Joey said the same he was slaughtered. Fyi I think JB is a massive tool, but just pointing that out
     Given she mentions that the interviewer mentioned Ian Wright, can you tell me where she’s “called him out” here please? Thanks in advance.


    There are some not so subtle digs in that quote tbh!
    Aren't men commentating on the women's game the same as women are commentating on the men's game though?
    Yes, and shes not happy about it apparently!
  • Woman dares to have an opinion, shock horror
  • Chizz said:
    Woman dares to have an opinion, shock horror

    Women know your limits - Harry Enfield on Make a GIF
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  • Cloudworm said:
    She's Charlton, he's Palace. What's wrong with you all? Could it be a touch of misogyny maybe?
    No . She’s just an awful pundit and he isn’t . 
    na, both of them are shit but Ian is slightly better. 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Essentially Aluko doesn't want Wrighty working on women's football because it stops chances for her. Wrighty has done loads for the women's game. 
    Sigh!! - Whats worse is I'm sure she'll make it easy for lazy idiots to say: "Well if males cant commentate on the female game, females shouldnt be commentators / pundits in the male game" - Things like what she's said, ultimately end up doing more harm that good!!
     If you shouldn't have male pundits covering women's football, then it's a logical response to question all the female pundits and indeed female presenters covering men's football.

    So bizarrely she's basically repeated Joey Barton's argument  :D
    No, it’s not logical and so, no, she hasn’t. There is much more coverage of the men’s game so there is a certain sense in pushing women for coverage of the women’s game. It’s the same as restricting women's football to only women officials. The caveat is that the person doing the job has to be competent - some would say that rules out Aluko. 
  • I’d happily ban Wright from women’s football if it meant Aluko isn’t on any men’s coverage 
    Racist fascist misogynistic far right homophonic transphobe. 
  • Gribbo said:
    I’d happily ban Wright from women’s football if it meant Aluko isn’t on any men’s coverage 
    Racist fascist misogynistic far right homophonic transphobe. 
    Can't fucking stand those single channel speakers. 
  • Gribbo said:
    I’d happily ban Wright from women’s football if it meant Aluko isn’t on any men’s coverage 
    Racist fascist misogynistic far right homophonic transphobe. 
    Can't fucking stand those single channel speakers. 
    Single channel speakerphobe
  • Gribbo said:
    I’d happily ban Wright from women’s football if it meant Aluko isn’t on any men’s coverage 
    Racist fascist misogynistic far right homophonic transphobe. 
    Oi  leave me out of it.
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