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POST-MATCH THREAD: Wrexham v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 26th April 2025: KO 17:30
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A pleasure??? Really?swords_alive said:
And that is mostly a pleasure. If the team loses it is rarely one player's fault. Have you heard football is a team game?DDOUBLEE said:
Palace get to watch Eze, we’re forced to watch Karoy Andersonoohaahmortimer said:I repeat boringly for the thousandth time
Footballing wise we are in by far the worst period in our history
at the same time our local rivals are having the best times in their history a triple shitshow all hitting the fan at once
if you're not (football wise) fuming at all times then you're living in cloud cuckoo land
third tier fuck off , shameful times0 -
Relegated and failed to get us promoted. Awful football to go with it. That’s a failure, not a debate.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
He got us into the playoffs with a terrible squad. Powell couldn't do anything with the squad he inherited - a lot of our fans forget that. We finished 13th in the season Powell took over.The Red Robin said:
Are we the only club he’s failed at?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:A bit of credit to Phil Parkinson - his sixth promotion. One of our few ex managers who has done well after leaving us.
Curious if the Wrexham owners will stick with him if next sesson doesn't go well. A big step up for their squad which has quite a few aging players.
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Smith wasnt offside for the run that led to the first goal, they showed the angle behind the defence, and Ramsay was playing him onboggzy said:This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds.
How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.
I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.
Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic4 -
No idea.Wheresmeticket said:
What do you think the lino got from the deal?boggzy said:This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds.
How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.
I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.
Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
Just can't see how the hell that wasn't flagged for blatant off-side.0 -
The lino was definitely behind play a couple of times, so we had no confidence in him getting offside decisions right.2
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We all say things in the heat of the moment from time to time.FishCostaFortune said:
He’s the one who said he would stop supporting Charlton if we sold Alfie May…JamesSeed said:Golfie is part of the CL furniture as far as I’m concerned. Don’t know why people seem intent on driving him away. I hardly ever agree with him, but he offers a different perspective at very least.2 -
I’d be a lot less exhausted if only we were just imagining itCallumcafc said:
I’m exhausted just imagining that.oohaahmortimer said:I repeat boringly for the thousandth time
Footballing wise we are in by far the worst period in our history
at the same time our local rivals are having the best times in their history a triple shitshow all hitting the fan at once
if you're not (football wise) fuming at all times then you're living in cloud cuckoo land
third tier fuck off , shameful times1 -
From memory I think Anderson was deeper than Ramsey.ForeverAddickted said:
Smith wasnt offside for the run that led to the first goal, they showed the angle behind the defence, and Ramsay was playing him onboggzy said:This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds.
How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.
I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.
Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic0 -
That was the 2nd goalcharlton_hero said:
From memory I think Anderson was deeper than Ramsey.ForeverAddickted said:
Smith wasnt offside for the run that led to the first goal, they showed the angle behind the defence, and Ramsay was playing him onboggzy said:This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds.
How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.
I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.
Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic0 -
This is the pass for the corner for the first goal, he’s onside because Ramsay is sitting deeper than everyone else. It’s one of the few things Ramsay has struggled with as RCB, he is often found a yard behind the other 2 CBs
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Jones might also be playing him on, I’m putting that down to his injury and not being at full speed1
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Bloodyhell, only saw it from the stand, and the angle on the "highlights", fair enough.fenaddick said:This is the pass for the corner for the first goal, he’s onside because Ramsay is sitting deeper than everyone else. It’s one of the few things Ramsay has struggled with as RCB, he is often found a yard behind the other 2 CBs2 -
As above!ForeverAddickted said:
Smith wasnt offside for the run that led to the first goal, they showed the angle behind the defence, and Ramsay was playing him onboggzy said:This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds.
How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.
I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.
Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic1 -
Just seen the video of dobbo and Wrexham players signing they hate Chester yet all live near or in Chester…that’s not going to end well next time they’re in there0
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So you think a lino has cheated, you have no idea how or what the incentive might have been?boggzy said:
No idea.Wheresmeticket said:
What do you think the lino got from the deal?boggzy said:This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds.
How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.
I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.
Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
Just can't see how the hell that wasn't flagged for blatant off-side.0 -
We got done by Wrexham, get over it and move on, it was always the most likely outcome.4
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No. Because I don't know what goes on on the inside of the football world, apart from the fact that there is a ridiculous amount of money involved. Do you?Wheresmeticket said:
So you think a lino has cheated, you have no idea how or what the incentive might have been?boggzy said:
No idea.Wheresmeticket said:
What do you think the lino got from the deal?boggzy said:This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds.
How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.
I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.
Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
Just can't see how the hell that wasn't flagged for blatant off-side.0 -
andipandi said:We got done by Wrexham, get over it and move on, it was always the most likely outcome.
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Ramsay, as good as he is with his recovery pace, appears to be a work in progress at holding a defensive line. Wrexham picked up on it and used it to their advantage, twice.
I highly suspect other teams will try following suit over the playoffs.
This might be the time to, given Small’s absence, play a couple of games with Alex Mitchell at RCB (who should be more positionally aware) and move Ramsay to RWB in place of Tennai.3 - Sponsored links:
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Alex Mitchell might be in line with the others, but he’s also much slower than Ramsay, so strikers will find it easier run in behind us. Ramsay should be our RCB, his return to the team and recovery pace has been the biggest change in our team going top 6 to top 2 quality. 1 bad game doesn’t change thatCallumcafc said:Ramsay, as good as he is with his recovery pace, appears to be a work in progress at holding a defensive line. Wrexham picked up on it and used it to their advantage, twice.
I highly suspect other teams will try following suit over the playoffs.
This might be the time to, given Small’s absence, play a couple of games with Alex Mitchell at RCB (who should be more positionally aware) and move Ramsay to RWB in place of Tennai.Mitchell, Jones and Gillesphey is solid enough but weak against pace. Rotherham exposed that weakness. It’s a lot easier to get Ramsay to learn from his mistakes in one bad game than to add pace to the other 3 in the next 2 weeks (impossible).Mitchell was fine at the start of the season, we weren’t as aggressive without the ball and as high up the pitch with our defensive line. We were a lot more direct with the ball. That style suited Alex Mitchell, the way we play now does not. We are at our best when we play higher up the pitch and are really aggressive, Ramsay at RCB helps us do that5 -
If you want to press high and be aggressive without the ball (we are at our best when we do this), then you need to have a defence that can cope with this.That means you need players good in the air to deal with long balls over your press (Jones and Gillesphey), you also need recovery pace (Ramsay) for a ball over the top. And you need excellent 1v1 defender for if a team plays through your press and ends up in a 3v3 or similar situation (Ramsay). Ramsay playing RCB is vital to the way we play and allows us to press high and be aggressive without being too vulnerable at the back. Swapping Alex Mitchell in for him changes everything and makes us a lot more vulnerable to teams with pace up front or teams that can play through our press2
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Edward’s look like he’s deep there too.1
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It was quite weird after the game to hear Wrexham fans singing "Chester's a sh*thole, I wanna go home" after getting off at Chester station.Red_Chester said:Just seen the video of dobbo and Wrexham players signing they hate Chester yet all live near or in Chester…that’s not going to end well next time they’re in there
I notice Chester FC are in the National North playoffs. Must be a nightmare running that club, when not only do you have the Merseyside clubs who've traditionally taken most of the fanbase, but now have Wrexham as well.0 -
Are there other examples of that being a weakness in Ramsay’s game? I don’t remember anyone picking up on it before, but I might have missed it. I think that RCB/RB role suits him more than RWB does and overall it’s worked really well.Callumcafc said:Ramsay, as good as he is with his recovery pace, appears to be a work in progress at holding a defensive line. Wrexham picked up on it and used it to their advantage, twice.
I highly suspect other teams will try following suit over the playoffs.
This might be the time to, given Small’s absence, play a couple of games with Alex Mitchell at RCB (who should be more positionally aware) and move Ramsay to RWB in place of Tennai.1 -
Happens a lot but rarely gets punished. First half of the Cambridge game I was in line with our natural defensive line and he was always the last man back. By that point it had happened enough for me to decide to keep an eye on it. Really it’s pretty good going that it’s his only consistent flaw in a new positionScoham said:
Are there other examples of that being a weakness in Ramsay’s game? I don’t remember anyone picking up on it before, but I might have missed it. I think that RCB/RB role suits him more than RWB does and overall it’s worked really well.Callumcafc said:Ramsay, as good as he is with his recovery pace, appears to be a work in progress at holding a defensive line. Wrexham picked up on it and used it to their advantage, twice.
I highly suspect other teams will try following suit over the playoffs.
This might be the time to, given Small’s absence, play a couple of games with Alex Mitchell at RCB (who should be more positionally aware) and move Ramsay to RWB in place of Tennai.0 -
Chester is a lovely town by the way.
I've been to all the current 92 apart from Harrogate and Barrow and I can't think of a better town north of Watford that I've been to.1 -
Harrogate edges Chester IMOCovered End said:Chester is a lovely town by the way.
I've been to all the current 92 apart from Harrogate and Barrow and I can't think of a better town north of Watford that I've been to.2 -
To clarify I was referring to you feeling the need to rant on CL at 1.56am as you appeared to be so wound up. All the best.Braziliance said:
What a disappointing and patronising post.Covered End said:
It reads like you need to take a step back and get a bit of perspective in what is really important in life.Braziliance said:
Exactly. That's my point.killerandflash said:
That was then, the current Wrexham sell out 12k every match and have commercial income (as per my post above) most Championship clubs can only dream of.Braziliance said:
My post was more aimed at Fenaddick tbf.Callumcafc said:
No I think you’re right. Generally the clubs that spend the most tend to do the best.Braziliance said:Talk about missing the point.
The two teams that have spent the most are up.
The marquee signing of January ripped us a new one. All there is to it.
There will always be anomalies (Huddersfield/Reading), that's what happens when multiple teams spend a lot, they can't all be succesful, but when it's all said and done, over time, cash wins. Always will.
You think Leeds and Burnley have gone up through good spirits and a chicken George van, have a word.
What I don’t get is all the catastrophising over a defeat to a team who’ve proved themselves to be second to only Birmingham over the course of 46 games.
We are what, 2.3, 2.4 points per game since January? Are we really focusing on yesterday’s one off loss when the real thing that killed us was our Oct/Nov/Dec form before the window?
The same people who came out of January saying we hadn’t strengthened enough to maintain a playoff push are the same ones now disappointed that we haven’t taken automatics to the last day of the season.
Think people are looking in the wrong places. The problem isn’t losing at Wrexham in April. It’s losing at Bristol Rovers, at Exeter, at home to Crawley…
I am focused on the Wrexham loss yes as it's fresh and extremely disappointing. It was extremely difficult to be on the wrong end of such a one way beating by a club who were in the National League in 22/23 and have been averaging crowds of 4k or so for about 20 years. To be done over like that was sickening.
For anyone saying 2nd was a pipe dream etc, it wasn't, if we had beaten them it would have come down to the final day. Instead we didn't rise to the occasion and now there's a bit of concern about the impact.
Those losses you mentioned earlier on may not have happened if we had more players of a higher quality.
I just hope we go up cause I genuinely don't think I can do another league 1 tour, especially after hearing all the whispers of losing TC, Small etc. These rebuilds are horrendous.
A rebuild is far easier in the league above where players want to play championship football compared to this pants league. Unless of course you do what those two have done and pay over the odds.
Rant over, hope they turn up in the play-offs cause that was genuinely as bad as any performance this season, regardless of how well drilled the opposition were.
They have United Airlines on the front of their shirt and Meta Quest, i.e. one of Mark Zuckerberg's companies, on the back. Ludicrous sponsors for this level, paying big bucks to be associated with the feelgood TV show. Money which enables them to bring in the likes of Sam Smith.
It was extremely difficult to watch a club who were without being rude, nothing, non-league, only 5 years ago, to turning us over and securing promotion. All the talk was about them, we were just an extra, a non-entity billed as underdogs.
The half and half scarves, the build up of the game at the Valley, and then this.
Their average attendance was just 4k in 19/20.
So it's not really a case of "that was then". It's still very recent, they were a national league side in 2022/23.
To see a club overtake us in such a short span of time, while also seeing what is meant to be our rivals secure a FA cup final, and the others make serious strides towards a championship play-off place, was genuinely vomit worthy.
I'm at a point where I'm cheering on an oil club to stop a club that is so far ahead of us from lifting a trophy, and hoping our ex- Snake of a player, Scott Parkers team turns over our rivals just to not lose any more credit.
There's a scenario that exists where we lose the play-offs, Palace win an FA cup, and Millwall will be in the play-offs.
Dreadful.
Charlton are a massive part of my life and always will be, but at the end of the day if it’s making you so unhappy & stressed, then you need to remind yourself it’s only a game.
The fact multiple people have liked it bothers me even more.
Even if you didn't heavily misinterpret my post, a personal post like that would have been best suited to a DM, not a public message. If you truly thought it was bothering me to a point where I should take a break from Charlton (implied), a personal message would have been more appropriate.
You are correct though, I do need to take a step back, but it's definitely not from Charlton.0 -
It definitely edges Barrow too (unless you like submarines!)LittleAddick said:
Harrogate edges Chester IMOCovered End said:Chester is a lovely town by the way.
I've been to all the current 92 apart from Harrogate and Barrow and I can't think of a better town north of Watford that I've been to.
Chester is indeed a lovely place, stunning architecture in the centre. The new station tap pub at the station is a welcome addition too.0
